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By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 11:18
The overseas one? Never saw it again. Used my free torygraph views on the laptop and using my phone now. Tried to google it but can't see the poll. The 2014 on is there though and that got Ronaldo right. Carter as high as 9/2? Cry
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 11:20

Dec 19, 2015 -- 11:07AM, bearcub wrote:


Not sure he'll win easily. Most people will see him as a cert for TOTY which is what his achievements merit and won't vote for him in main Spoty imo


Too many words...unusually for you Wink...he won the Davis Cup. Motivation to vote is emotional not intellectual.

By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 11:23
whills seem keen to take on fury t3 at 11/4. Happy to oblige.
By:
bearcub
When: 19 Dec 15 11:34

Dec 19, 2015 -- 11:20AM, George Bailey wrote:


Dec 19, 2015 -- 11:07AM, bearcub wrote:Not sure he'll win easily. Most people will see him as a cert for TOTY which is what his achievements merit and won't vote for him in main Spoty imoToo many words...unusually for you ...he won the Davis Cup. Motivation to vote is emotional not intellectual.


You can't beat a good old fashioned tired cliche.

By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 11:54
Not seen that cliche before...link? Cliches can be truisms as well of course Wink
By:
KIMBLE
When: 19 Dec 15 12:17
what price murray when voting closes.

1.3??

rory was 1.15 iirc last year Shocked
By:
timbuctooth
When: 19 Dec 15 12:21
Worse than that, Kimble; I laid a bit of 1.11, and I don`t remember believing that I`d laid the lowest price matched.
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 12:22
Rory wasn't easily leading in the poll that was pure money chasing....I still shudder at how I ballsed that up on the night betting wise.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 19 Dec 15 12:25
I wasn`t watching it, I think it might have clashed with SCD?, but all reports suggested the whole show was a Rory Rampathon, perhaps somewhat justifying the money-buyers` optimism.
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 12:27
Petrol heads vote and golf is a minority sport. Poll confirmed that. Bit worried Murray might nick a place despite clearly not deserving it.
By:
bardo
When: 19 Dec 15 12:28
As i recall in SPOTY last year Rory was actually announced as the winner on the BBC website at one point in the night

the BBC later apologised for the " glitch " !
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 12:31
Wasn't that the annual test run preshow that leads to the annual conspiracy theory?
By:
bardo
When: 19 Dec 15 12:34
it was bang i the middle of the show as i remember about half an hour before the winner was announced

could have been a disgruntled BBC employee who wanted to lay Rory on betfair !!!
By:
bearcub
When: 19 Dec 15 12:40
It was after vote lines were closed, so made no difference to the result or the market
By:
timbuctooth
When: 19 Dec 15 12:48
Just checked, Rory hit 1.09.
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 13:52
Google only goes back to 2011. iirc he did but did McCoy p1ss the torygraph poll like he did the actual result?
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 14:20
To answer my own question looks like it was the Guardian poll back then. Times was phenomenal but don't do one now. For some reason can't find the current Guardian poll. A link anyone?

The point I am looking to make is that the McCoy campaign could be tracked...the Sinfield one can't really. Odds on a place??

George Bailey • December 18, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
Yes the guardian is the main one.  It is usually very reliable except the cavendish fanatics pile in every year it seems...at least I hope so or at 100s+ he's the bet of all time Laugh

Ignoring cav the poll has named top 3 in past 2 years and this year they are: mccoy, ennis, mcdowell. Swann not far behind but I don't fancy him in this now.

The times poll was also very accurate (hoy literally spot on to .1% I think). This year they have some twitter poll but you have to subscribe to get results I guess..anyone done this??


I have done some other measures but they are a bit all over the place. Like I said above in any typical year him leading gdn poll would make him fav for me but this year with ramp could be a shoo in..soon find out.
By:
squares
When: 19 Dec 15 14:25
Jimmy Hill - a late addition to the RIP section
By:
hemsby
When: 19 Dec 15 14:29
Sad

Used to love watching MOTD on a Saturday night as a kid,with old big chin.
By:
armagnac
When: 19 Dec 15 14:32
RIP part of my life growing up Sad
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 14:36

Dec 19, 2015 -- 2:29PM, hemsby wrote:


Used to love watching MOTD on a Saturday night as a kid,with old big chin.


Was that your mam or dad?

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 15 14:36
Very popular with Sunderland fans ;)
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 14:38
hemsby's parents?Shocked
By:
KIMBLE
When: 19 Dec 15 15:00
i rem rory drift out to 1.6/7 then backed in again

muzza sure to go 1.3???
By:
KIMBLE
When: 19 Dec 15 15:01
at some point
By:
armagnac
When: 19 Dec 15 15:02
see why you dont post a lot now, but as tim would say
welcome and dont be shy, we NEED ALL VIEWS on here
By:
armagnac
When: 19 Dec 15 15:03
are you doctor, and 1st name richard ?
By:
tony_soprano2
When: 19 Dec 15 15:23
btw the Jonny Wilkinson Sinfield video has had nearly 58,000 views on facebook. it only takes 10,000 rhinos fans voting 20 times and he's well in the mixer. No poll in the world would pick that up....
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:24
Some tvat (on here?) ramping the Fury vote on the torygraph poll...bastards Angry
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:25

Dec 19, 2015 -- 3:23PM, tony_soprano2 wrote:


btw the Jonny Wilkinson Sinfield video has had nearly 58,000 views on facebook. it only takes 10,000 rhinos fans voting 20 times and he's well in the mixer. No poll in the world would pick that up....


Not convinced....McCoy campaign picked up in polls. This one seems more heat than light. Could be wrong.

By:
tony_soprano2
When: 19 Dec 15 15:32
how could a poll pick up how motivated people are to pick up the phone multiple times?
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:35
what is the point of any poll then? Especially given app voting. It picked up McCoy. I'm not convinced there is an army of Sinfield multi voters out there anyway.
By:
tony_soprano2
When: 19 Dec 15 15:46
in the case of SPOTY there isn't always a lot of point in the polls - that's my point! I would say that the people who want kev to win realise he doesn't stand a chance unless they spend some dosh on the phone calls. They appear motivated to do this. don't underestimate the power of the multi-vote.
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:50
Ironic you say little point in SPOTY polls when they are invariably the most accurate of all specials
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:55
Plus as we are guessing I'll guess there will be LOTS of vote motivation and multi voting for Fury. Its become more than just a sports award now.
By:
tony_soprano2
When: 19 Dec 15 15:55
how were they predicting zara phillips?
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:57
No record that far back I think. The Times one was 0.1% out with Hoy and very close with the others iirc. I'd settle for that with every poll. There again there would be no point in betting at 1.01 if they were all like that.
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 15:58
Anyway I've put some lay money up t3 Sinfield...fill your boots Wink
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 15 16:10
£27 at 1.67? Laugh
By:
George Bailey
When: 19 Dec 15 16:12
And the other £23 at 1.66 Cool....how much do you want to back at GB and I will try to accommodate Wink
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