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http://kworb.net/popuk/ Cider posted it upthread its a site that collates downloads. The topline figures are the hours since the latest update. Showing at present James 100.00 as the mean then Justice at 87.50 so for every 100 James sales Justice is selling 87.5.
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It's always worth mentioning that only The Official Chart Co figures are in any way ratified, everything else, whilst may be of use, could be manipulated for a number of reasons...
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many thanks
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Cheers Alan as gamblers we are only as good as the info we have. The Liverpoll Echo press release of 100k plus preorders has sold a lot of us down the river, at leat with your invaluable info we are better informed.
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Echo the other day had a person from HMV shop in liverpool ONE saying they had ordered 12000. More than anything else they had ever ordered in that shop.
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//tm_headline=pre-orders-of-the-justice-collective-s-hillsborough-charity-single-smash-through-100-000-mark&method=full&objectid=32322199&siteid=100252-name_page.html
that was the original article which made me pile into Justice at 8/11 4/6 etc. Had the article been true 1/5 was generous. |
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Glad to be out of my 1.39 back yesterday. I've not got the foggyest and by the look of it, nor has the market. Been a huge spread all day.
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And btw, thanks for the updates gents.
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Yeah, not like RATM where people are prepared to take strong views
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hillsborough gone down to .8438 now
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My own view as a regular chart watcher who understands the Itunes chart is that, the Hillsborough song is now losing ground fast and looks likely to continue to do so. The key issue is whether or not the physical copies sold in store will make up for the shortfall on downloads. A lot of people think that Saturday will be a big sales day for the physical, but I see James as likely to benefit from this Saturday shopping to an extent too. The fly in the ointment is exposure. Everyone knows James has a single out, does everyone know the other record is out? Some viral marketing got "You'll Never Walk Alone" to Itunes #1 earlier and something like that sent to all football club fans could be a killer blow.
I'd be really interested to see a physicals vs downloads breakdown in tomorrow's midweeks which should be available. I think this could go down to the wire though, anything less than 20k or so could probably be overturned on Saturday - if the difference is more by then, I reckon it's game over. |
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I came across a New Year special I did on X Factor winner to have Christmas Number One at 6/1. Would have seemed like a rubbish bet last week, not so sure now! Every little helps...
Certainly makes what we thought was a dull no-contest much more interesting. |
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chaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrge-but which way ?
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just spotted your request Donny
1. 75735 (-59.7%) - JAMES ARTHUR 2. 72383 (NEW) - JUSTICE COLLECTIVE 3. 23198 (-23.2%) - WILL I AM FT BRITNEY SPEARS 4. 15401 (-32.6%) - BRUNO MARS 5. 14153 (31.2%) - RIHANNA FT MIKKY EKKO 6. 12196 (-27.9%) - OLLY MURS FT FLO RIDA 7. 10784 (-44.6%) - GABRIELLE APLIN 8. 10179 (4.1%) - PSY 9. 9900 (15.4%) - TAYLOR SWIFT 10. 9117 (NEW) - ALEX DAY 11. 9064 (-30.6%) - LABRINTH FT EMELI SANDE 12. 8966 (-41.5%) - RIHANNA 13. 6297 (-47.2%) - ONE DIRECTION 14. 6098 (20.8%) - PITBULL FT TJR 15. 5945 (-38.6%) - KESHA 16. 5850 (-21.5%) - ROBBIE WILLIAMS 17. 5818 (-30.9%) - LUMINEERS 18. 5544 (-15%) - SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA/MARTIN 19. 5540 (-10.7%) - POGUES FT KIRSTY MACCOLL 20. 5201 (-39.1%) - PINK 21. 4657 (-40.2%) - ALICIA KEYS 22. 4385 (-19.2%) - MARIAH CAREY |
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Thanks Alan.. you know the trend here.. do these figures suggest a disappointing start from Justice Collective with initial sales included or should it build.. Obviously its a million bar but which of top two looks good ?
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Today is D-Day for the Justice campaign, with the original inquest likely to be quashed. So I would expect a spike in sales today and tomorrow with the increased publicity.
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thanks alan
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4704784/X-Factor-James-Arthurs-on-course-for-Christmas-No1.html
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Yesterday's news
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Now get out of that!!!!
1. 109703 (NEW) - JUSTICE COLLECTIVE 2. 106311 (-58.8%) - JAMES ARTHUR |
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cheers alan
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Nice upward movement - money's just gone on the Justice boys
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that would imply, assuming 30k was presales
James 75k first 2 days then 31k yesterday Justice 30k pre, then 42k then 37k |
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6000 more for JC
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Skybet still at 8/15
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Presales only count when collected apparently Ed?
Looks a fairly safe win for JC |
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Paddies 1.57
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Last matched at 1.39 and PP still at 1.57. For people that have not yet been closed down.
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Managed 3 figures at paddies
They never close you down completely :-) |
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Thanks Alan btw
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I love the collective reassuring, its very sweet...
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can still get 1-2 at stanz
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not convinced it's over yet
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Momentum certainly with JC though
Do you think they have plenty physicals in the shops for the weekend Alan? |
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Stans only 1.5 left now
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indeed
there'll be plenty stock, |
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Ta
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High Court has just quoshed the original accidental death verdict at Hillsborough. Someone kick the publicity machine.
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