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By:
J.O.TOBIN.
When: 18 Dec 12 16:52
http://kworb.net/popuk/  Cider posted it upthread its a site that collates downloads. The topline figures are the hours since the latest update. Showing at present James 100.00 as the mean then Justice at 87.50 so for every 100 James sales Justice is selling 87.5.
By:
alanjz
When: 18 Dec 12 16:55
It's always worth mentioning that only The Official Chart Co figures are in any way ratified, everything else, whilst may be of use, could be manipulated for a number of reasons...
By:
attitude adjuster
When: 18 Dec 12 16:55
many thanks Happy
By:
J.O.TOBIN.
When: 18 Dec 12 16:59
Cheers Alan as gamblers we are only as good as the info we have. The Liverpoll Echo press release of 100k plus preorders has sold a lot of us down the river, at leat with your invaluable info we are better informed.
Thanks
By:
Mr Ed
When: 18 Dec 12 17:10
Echo the other day had a person from HMV shop in liverpool ONE saying they had ordered 12000. More than anything else they had ever ordered in that shop.
By:
J.O.TOBIN.
When: 18 Dec 12 17:16
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//tm_headline=pre-orders-of-the-justice-collective-s-hillsborough-charity-single-smash-through-100-000-mark&method=full&objectid=32322199&siteid=100252-name_page.html

that was the original article which made me pile into Justice at 8/11 4/6 etc.
Had the article been true 1/5 was generous.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 18 Dec 12 17:18
Glad to be out of my 1.39 back yesterday. I've not got the foggyest and by the look of it, nor has the market. Been a huge spread all day.
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 18 Dec 12 17:19
And btw, thanks for the updates gents.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 18 Dec 12 17:21
Yeah, not like RATM where people are prepared to take strong views
By:
bearcub
When: 18 Dec 12 17:42
hillsborough gone down to .8438 now
By:
popking
When: 18 Dec 12 17:43
My own view as a regular chart watcher who understands the Itunes chart is that, the Hillsborough song is now losing ground fast and looks likely to continue to do so.  The key issue is whether or not the physical copies sold in store will make up for the shortfall on downloads.  A lot of people think that Saturday will be a big sales day for the physical, but I see James as likely to benefit from this Saturday shopping to an extent too.  The fly in the ointment is exposure.  Everyone knows James has a single out, does everyone know the other record is out?  Some viral marketing got "You'll Never Walk Alone" to Itunes #1 earlier and something like that sent to all football club fans could be a killer blow.

I'd be really interested to see a physicals vs downloads breakdown in tomorrow's midweeks which should be available.  I think this could go down to the wire though, anything less than 20k or so could probably be overturned on Saturday - if the difference is more by then, I reckon it's game over.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 18 Dec 12 19:33
I came across a New Year special I did on X Factor winner to have Christmas Number One at 6/1.  Would have seemed like a rubbish bet last week, not so sure now!  Every little helps...

Certainly makes what we thought was a dull no-contest much more interesting.
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 18 Dec 12 22:27
chaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrge-but which way ?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 18 Dec 12 22:38
Laugh
By:
alanjz
When: 19 Dec 12 00:15
just spotted your request Donny

1. 75735 (-59.7%) - JAMES ARTHUR

2. 72383 (NEW) - JUSTICE COLLECTIVE

3. 23198 (-23.2%) - WILL I AM FT BRITNEY SPEARS

4. 15401 (-32.6%) - BRUNO MARS

5. 14153 (31.2%) - RIHANNA FT MIKKY EKKO

6. 12196 (-27.9%) - OLLY MURS FT FLO RIDA

7. 10784 (-44.6%) - GABRIELLE APLIN

8. 10179 (4.1%) - PSY

9. 9900 (15.4%) - TAYLOR SWIFT

10. 9117 (NEW) - ALEX DAY

11. 9064 (-30.6%) - LABRINTH FT EMELI SANDE

12. 8966 (-41.5%) - RIHANNA

13. 6297 (-47.2%) - ONE DIRECTION

14. 6098 (20.8%) - PITBULL FT TJR

15. 5945 (-38.6%) - KESHA

16. 5850 (-21.5%) - ROBBIE WILLIAMS

17. 5818 (-30.9%) - LUMINEERS

18. 5544 (-15%) - SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA/MARTIN

19. 5540 (-10.7%) - POGUES FT KIRSTY MACCOLL

20. 5201 (-39.1%) - PINK

21. 4657 (-40.2%) - ALICIA KEYS

22. 4385 (-19.2%) - MARIAH CAREY
By:
againstthecrowd
When: 19 Dec 12 08:19
Thanks Alan.. you know the trend here.. do these figures suggest a disappointing start from Justice Collective with initial sales included or should it build.. Obviously its a million bar but which of top two looks good ?
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Dec 12 09:26
Today is D-Day for the Justice campaign, with the original inquest likely to be quashed.  So I would expect a spike in sales today and tomorrow with the increased publicity.
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Dec 12 10:13
thanks alan

so no £1 fish man Sad
By:
Ampleforth
When: 19 Dec 12 10:27
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4704784/X-Factor-James-Arthurs-on-course-for-Christmas-No1.html

Scared
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 10:49
Yesterday's news
By:
alanjz
When: 19 Dec 12 10:57
Now get out of that!!!!

1. 109703 (NEW) - JUSTICE COLLECTIVE

2. 106311 (-58.8%) - JAMES ARTHUR
By:
Mr Ed
When: 19 Dec 12 10:58
cheers alan
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Dec 12 11:00
Nice upward movement - money's just gone on the Justice boys
By:
Mr Ed
When: 19 Dec 12 11:01
that would imply, assuming 30k was presales
James 75k first 2 days then 31k yesterday
Justice 30k pre, then 42k then 37k
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:01
6000 more for JC
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Dec 12 11:01
Skybet still at 8/15
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:02
Presales only count when collected apparently Ed?

Looks a fairly safe win for JC
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:05
Paddies 1.57
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Dec 12 11:06

Dec 19, 2012 -- 11:05AM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Paddies 1.57


Good luck getting more than a few quid with them - jokers!

By:
ShirleyKnot
When: 19 Dec 12 11:06
Last matched at 1.39 and PP still at 1.57. For people that have not yet been closed down.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:07
Managed 3 figures at paddies

They never close you down completely  :-)
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:10
Thanks Alan btw
By:
Ampleforth
When: 19 Dec 12 11:10
I love the collective reassuring, its very sweet... Love
By:
bardo
When: 19 Dec 12 11:12
can still get 1-2 at stanz
By:
alanjz
When: 19 Dec 12 11:17
not convinced it's over yet
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:20
Momentum certainly with JC though

Do you think they have plenty physicals in the shops for the weekend Alan?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:23
Stans only 1.5 left now
By:
alanjz
When: 19 Dec 12 11:36
indeed

there'll be plenty stock,
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 12 11:40
Ta
By:
1.01 Layer
When: 19 Dec 12 11:41
High Court has just quoshed the original accidental death verdict at Hillsborough. Someone kick the publicity machine.
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