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Cider When: 22 Apr 12 15:41

I don't know how you can play poker bearing that in mind.

Similar to me with the horses. In the past, getting tonked on the post like I did in the GN would have sent me on the chase. Can take it on the chin nowadays.

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Henry VIII When: 22 Apr 12 15:43

Also I've always had it in me to bet compulsively.

Everybody alive has it in them too. It comes from the evolutionary need to grab things like food or sex which could be here today but gone tomorrow.

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 15:48

Apr 22, 2012 -- 9:04AM, Henry VIII wrote:

Yeah FLL it’s good to thrash every angle out.Some top Swedish ESC bod said that because they had a black dancer the east Europeans wouldn’t vote for them. And the dancer gets quite intimate with her.He was just talking technically, as us gamblers might, but there was a big outcry about it, so they said that the dance routine wouldn’t be changed. That was their last statement anyway. Nothing’s set in stone till rehearsals.

The Swedish bod must have been reading my posts where I said the exact same thing and is a big worry of mine.

The racist thing is always a moral issue; do you do the right thing and not pander to the racists or do you take a practical view and ditch him? Even though I have a lot of money riding on it I hope they keep him in....that's what the real George Bailey would do

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Henry VIII When: 22 Apr 12 15:54

Have you been backing at current prices George?

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timbucktooth When: 22 Apr 12 16:03

fll I`m not talking about your Bolt `moment` but your 10,000 to 0.00 challenge, which certainly put a new twist on the more usual 0.00 to 10,000 type challenges. Have you forgotten it? Must have been quite a bender!

(To any Specials forumites who are unaware of this challenge and who are worried about fll`s status as `King of Specials Betting`, fear not, he failed, miserably, to lose the 10 grand!)

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:08

I don't play a huge amount of poker these days.

The old betfair poker used to be money for old rope at the cash tables and altho you'd take some nasty hits with terrible players spiking you on the river, you'd just punch your laptop a few times, take a deep breaths and remind yourself that longterm profit is all that matters.

When betfair moved platforms as well as losing my 'duffers' list, built up over a couple of years, I also found the standard of play overall to be higher.
So lots of graft for very little reward. Which being a lazy sod by nature isn't my thing.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:11

Oh right Tim. I thought you were referring to my Bolt bet.

You mean the parody of all the challenges on General betting, that I did for a laugh.

Yep. I got bored and gave up after backing a couple of winners

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:15

btw here is some fanwank for Pastora at the Netherlands concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyJG3e9ejg

Well deserved imo and I can only see the price going one way come the rehearsals.

Bex will also be happy that they've cut out the 'boring' start.

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:15

Apr 22, 2012 -- 10:54AM, Henry VIII wrote:

Have you been backing at current prices George?

No Henry built up a 4.7k green at average odds of 5/1. Laid some off so about 3.5k now and also backed some of the main competition to green up on them. Looks a decent book but a bad rehearsal and she drifts and it doesn't look so good.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:17

Can anyone remember if Spain usually send their act to this concert?

it strikes me they're taking it more seriously this year, knowing they have a good'n

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Henry VIII When: 22 Apr 12 16:17

OK, you're not completely insane then

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:18

Yeah fll tried to find a live feed last night for Concert for Eurovision but no good. They are all here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQj66UaPAZE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Some sang live some didn't. I took some more Spain based on this. Some better than I thought others just confirmed how sh1t they are.

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Henry VIII When: 22 Apr 12 16:18

* ^ to George (FLL is completely insane)

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:19

Henry only those laying Loreen at 10s is completely certifiable

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:20

Apr 22, 2012 -- 11:17AM, five leaves left wrote:

Can anyone remember if Spain usually send their act to this concert?it strikes me they're taking it more seriously this year, knowing they have a good'n

I think they sent the little blond bombshell I was daft enough to back who finished stone last iirc.

The UK version of this only has the dregs booked in.

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:21

Now why would I back a blond bombshell?

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:28

LOL Henry. I can't be as insane as anyone who backed that dreary spanish song from last year

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 16:29

The Italians too 'cool' to send their song.

Too busy touring round Italy

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:31

Apr 22, 2012 -- 11:28AM, five leaves left wrote:

LOL Henry. I can't be as insane as anyone who backed that dreary spanish song from last year

In my defence you have the wrong blond bombshell fll. Mine was Soraya in 2009...both finished plum last mind.

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 16:36

But if she needed a shoulder to cry on I'd be there for her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MsyNuMfekQ&feature=related

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:01

Looks like poor mans Tamzin Outhwaite

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bexley When: 22 Apr 12 17:06

Apr 22, 2012 -- 11:15AM, five leaves left wrote:

btw here is some fanwank for Pastora at the Netherlands concert.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyJG3e9ejgWell deserved imo and I can only see the price going one way come the rehearsals.Bex will also be happy that they've cut out the 'boring' start.

If thst's indeed a live vocal its very impressive

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bexley When: 22 Apr 12 17:12

What I'm expecting from Spanish rehearsals is stuff like - "I didn't see this as a contender beforehand but now having heard it live its blown me away. Excellent vocal and such a powerful climax to the song" Cue 12-16's on here, I lay and it fails to register top 10 in the final. Simples

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:14

I'd be amazed if it wasn't.

Jedward and Romania the only 2 who mimed apparently.

The blue dress and blue lighting works very well too.
I hope they go for something similar in Baku

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:17

Nadine went from 60's to 10 after she peformed.

So I'm hoping for better than 12-16

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bexley When: 22 Apr 12 17:19

Apr 22, 2012 -- 12:17PM, five leaves left wrote:

Nadine went from 60's to 10 after she peformed.So I'm hoping for better than 12-16

Yes leaves I'm trying not to be too greedy. After all no-one believes Sweden can be beaten apparently so the price can't get too low

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:20

I was keen on Germany's chances before I watched that video.
It's going to look rather lame after Pastora's performance tho.

Having said that, viewers might like the contrast and it will appeal to a different audience.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:22

Sweden can be beaten

I just think 3.5 pretty fairly represents it's chances.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:22

Whereas 9.6 on Italy is just stupid.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:23

I reckon we'll agree on that one ;)

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bexley When: 22 Apr 12 17:24

Sorry leaves that wasn't iamed at you. I'm expecting all the expert/bloggers from Baku and the polling to conclude Sweden has it in the bag - at least thats what happened with France last year

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:35

True.

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:41

ofc like France last year, Spain won't be in the journos semi final polls. Which tended to have quite an influence on various markets.

I guess we should be on the hunt for songs that will outperform their current position in those 2 polls.

I suspect you already have been.

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 17:43

Apr 22, 2012 -- 12:01PM, five leaves left wrote:

Looks like poor mans Tamzin Outhwaite

Is that a bad thing?

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five leaves left When: 22 Apr 12 17:51

A very poor mans

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George Bailey When: 22 Apr 12 17:56

Mutton dressed as lamb...my favourite dish

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Henry VIII When: 22 Apr 12 18:25

LOL Henry. I can't be as insane as anyone who backed that dreary spanish song from last year

Nope, just checked, not a penny of mine went on it, don't even remember it.

I loved (but not in the betting sense, I didn't back) the Spanish one from 2 years ago that suffered a stage invasion and was allowed to perform again at the end. A staging mess alas clowns and curly hair.

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bexley When: 23 Apr 12 08:56

FWIW AKOE's Eurovision in Concert Review is up - http://www.allkindsofeverything.ie/Amsterdam12.html

Unsurprisingly it's very different in its conclusions from Sofabet

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johnnyrant When: 23 Apr 12 10:06

Strikes me, most observers carry their pre-conceived notions into these shows. Not surprising AKOE rave about Ireland...

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bexley When: 23 Apr 12 10:22

Apr 23, 2012 -- 5:06AM, johnnyrant wrote:

Strikes me, most observers carry their pre-conceived notions into these shows. Not surprising AKOE rave about Ireland...

True but the differences say re the Turkey singer are so marked. Star of the show on one site just about and on the other, may see his country fail to qualify