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By:
Guybrush Threepwood
When: 27 Nov 09 12:23
Ali is going against doctor's advice to rest her injury and wants to dance on Saturday. Doomed I say, Doomed.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 27 Nov 09 16:02
BBC saying Whittle will dance tomorrow, according to a post on DS.
By:
five leaves left
When: 27 Nov 09 16:03
See my thread jr.
Aye, heard it on 5live a few mins ago.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 27 Nov 09 18:36
we have seen judges talk up/down routines before on ITT and it doesn't come to fruition on the show. Think it will be a crowd-pleaser from Chris but not sure technically whether it'll be that good. The most natural in training, at least to my eyes, has been Laila's Charleston. Definite potential for huge shake up on judges' leaderboard. Can't see Ali doing anything remotely decent.
Whittle now 10s for elimination with b365 - I got a bit of the 33s available earlier today, though I still think his exit is unlikely (just not a 33-1 shot).
By:
johnnyrant
When: 27 Nov 09 18:42
Ladcrookes prices back up on all Strictly markets - good bit of value there, I reckon
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 27 Nov 09 19:09
Cheers jr
By:
Cider
When: 27 Nov 09 19:27
I'm covering the other Ricky b2 combos. Already have decent bet on him top score and if he isn't surely in trouble of being b2 if this sympathy vote materializes for Ali.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 27 Nov 09 19:28
Value on Ricky surely? Unless judges are marking down for bad behaviour
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 27 Nov 09 19:28
(for top score)
By:
PAKEY
When: 27 Nov 09 19:29
five leaves left 26 Nov 18:50
Just switch off and hope DS get this appalling pair over the line.


Please tell me they've not backed Chris?
By:
Cider
When: 27 Nov 09 19:32
I didn't like the feel of it on ITT GB, possibly they were gearing up for Mince to top the board. Then there's this group dance that the scores could be well dodgy. As I already have Ricky 5-4 for highest judges score, it only costs me a few quid as a type of hedge.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 27 Nov 09 19:36
I think like you say fig's 9 on b2 was a great hedge. I got 200 on 2.25 on HS, so if that don't come in, b2 must surely be odds on
By:
Cider
When: 27 Nov 09 19:42
I have a bit of 12-1 Ricky b2, and 66-1 R/A combo, 25-1 R/L combo. So put a few quid on the other two possibles if Ricky b2. A sympathy vote can mess up the usual voting patterns.
By:
five leaves left
When: 27 Nov 09 19:46
PAKEY 27 Nov 20:29


five leaves left 26 Nov 18:50
Just switch off and hope DS get this appalling pair over the line.

Please tell me they've not backed Chris?


They love him.
Demasculinized males always go down a storm on DS.
By:
Datasafe
When: 27 Nov 09 20:00
His form line on one of their weekly vote threads is 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-1
By:
johnnyrant
When: 27 Nov 09 23:00
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1231574/Strictly-crisis-star-Ricky-Whittle-held-assault--favourite-crutches.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/11/28/strictly-come-dancing-in-meltdown-as-ricky-whittle-is-arrested-and-ali-bastian-injured-115875-21856046/
By:
five leaves left
When: 27 Nov 09 23:39
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/news/a188928/strictly-2010-tour-confirmed.html

Mince, Nat and Ali doing the tour. No Ricky or Laila
By:
Datasafe
When: 28 Nov 09 05:51
Although Alesha didn't sign up for the 2008 tour I think things are starting to look grim for RW. His saving grace is that with Ali crocked there's only a slim chnace he'll lose a fair dance off. I'm less and less convinced they'll want him as the ideal winner though.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Nov 09 21:42
Ali 12's for next elimination. all things considered not a bad price. Considering the faux injury :^0
By:
Guybrush Threepwood
When: 28 Nov 09 22:32
So, last week Whittle got the major ramp from the judges. Tonight it was Ali's turn. Next week it will be back to Whittle. Cleary these judges only care for themselves and trying to protect their gig. If who they say are good are not in the final show then it makes them redundant, which is what they fear.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 22:34
must admit, pre-show I thought the Whittle/Laila bottom 2 was more likely tonight, and had a bit more on that than the Whittle/Nat - cos I figured it was pretty much a given that Nat would outpoll Laila. But Laila must have beaten Nat on pv.
Surprised Nat's vote fell off as much as it did. Laila must have finished at least 3rd top in pv. And Whittle last or 2nd last... I think.
By:
Guybrush Threepwood
When: 28 Nov 09 22:41
I think the charleston dances were cleary more visually entertaining than rock and roll. Tom Chamber's show dance last year had that charleston style to it now.

If Hollins gets to the final and does a similar charleston then he might win it.
By:
Arbitrage
When: 28 Nov 09 22:48
Chris actually has momentum on top of public vote. Only the semi stitchup stops him winning now!
By:
Cider
When: 28 Nov 09 22:49
The final 'dynamic' will be different. As Ricky blows Mince out of the water for ability.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 23:03
I'm not sure Ali would have got much of a vote tonight, and would Nat have only got 1 or 2 - a case of her fans abandoning her cos she was shown up...? Cannot imagine Ali got 4 or more but
if Laila only got 3, Ali would have had to get at least 4, So I think the first of these looks more realistic:

Ali - 5 + 2 = 7
Chris - 4 + 5 = 9
Ricky W - 3 + 1 = 4
Laila - 2 + 4 = 6
Nat - 1 + 3 = 4

or:

Ali - 5 + 4 = 9
Chris - 4 + 5 = 9
Ricky W - 3 + 1 = 4
Laila - 2 + 3 = 5
Nat - 1 + 2 = 3
By:
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg
When: 28 Nov 09 23:11
Cider 28 Nov 23:49
The final 'dynamic' will be different. As Ricky blows Mince out of the water for ability.

i dont think it matters that much. as long as chris is competent and entertaining he can win
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:12
Ali could have had 1pts and Ricky W 2pts in your 1st example, jr.

If Chris makes the final he wins, but the semi final is the biggest obstacle.
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:13
I agree Denis,
He was the most entertaining tonight and I can't stand him.
By:
Sir Denis Eton-Hogg
When: 28 Nov 09 23:16
just watched laila's char;eston again. how the hell craig scored that a 6 is beyond me
By:
Cider
When: 28 Nov 09 23:18
Mince is my best winner but I actually backed him @ top man as it was the same price.

Laila is a genuine fav for next elim.

So effectively we'll have the two guys fighting it out for the final spot.

All stops will be pulled for Ali in that scenario imo.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 23:18
agree fll - be delighted if Chris wins for my book but that last 3 is a major concern.
off thread, but did you see much 'Oh wow, Danyl is great' on Twitter tonight fll?
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:25
Not much jr.
50/50 for Danyl, but i reckon he's just safe.
Hardly very original but i think Lloyd is gone this week.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 23:31
so, 2 dances each next week & if my calculations correct:

Laila - AS & salsa
Ali - tango & samba
Chris - waltz & samba
Ricky - foxtrot & cha cha cha

potentially translates to:

Ricky - 4 + ?
Ali - 3 + ?
Laila - 2 + ?
Chris - 1 + 4 = 5

If Chris is last on leaderboard v difficult for him unless an exact reverse in pv cos any of other 3 would put him away in dance off, no?
By:
seanvice
When: 28 Nov 09 23:37
If Chris is bottom and assuming he gets the 4 from the public, then we really need Laila to get the 3 points from the public and on past evidence that looks quite likely.

Ricky 4 + ?
Ali 3+ ?
Laila 2+3
Chris 1+4

If that happens then 50% of the time it will be a Ricky/Ali dance off, and 50% of the time an Ali vs Laila dance off.

Even if we have

Ricky 4+?
Ali 3+?
Laila 2+2
Chris 1+4

Chris being in the dance off is impossible even if laila gets 2 from the public. One of Ricky or Ali would have to get 5 or below when they are added.
By:
seanvice
When: 28 Nov 09 23:38
then we really need Laila to get the 3 points from the public

So actually scrap that. As long as Laila isnt last with the public and then Chris cant be in a dance off. (All assuming he is top with public)
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:39
very easy for him to escape next week. Only 1 of the 4 combos would see him B2
50/50 in the semi.
It's good that he has his waltz in the semi.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 23:42
thanks for that fll
good work sean
I'm almost 100 per cent certain Chris tops the poll and will again next week
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:43
Do we know the dances next week?

One on the rota and a new dance?

Chris samba
By:
five leaves left
When: 28 Nov 09 23:47
I am starting to worry that he'll get Gethined in the semi final.
The 3 person semi final with a dance -off is just ridiculous.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 28 Nov 09 23:51
it's a real sickener when we were all banking on a 3-couple final - and hence the Tuffers/Hollins angle, as the public fav wins in 3-couple final.
I fear he will be Gethin-ed too. Strictly makers have shown they couldn't care less what the public wants.
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