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The population of Wales is about 3m and that does not include Welsh people living in England. This is just a stat that might come in handy one day.
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How much do you want mate?
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emailing cheps
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whilst Man U have a lot of fans more football fans hate them than love him ..... and it's not as if Giggs plays for England.
----------------------- so what number do people ring to vote against him? |
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A big thanks to the guys at the top of the thread - GB, Cider, Gresty etc.. for highlighting this originally - I was sulking at the time over losing my tenner at 1000 on Chrissy Welly and missed the big prices. Still managed to get some 17's though. Amazed high street werent ready for the 'if Giggs | Freddie = top 10; charge !!!!!" scenario.
An even bigger thanks goes to MediaWales for getting Giggsy into the compo by 1 vote - their other selections (judged completely on merit, of course) for top ten included Gethin jenkins and Jamie Roberts.. what fools we must be for not even requesting they be added into the market. As for the Herald.. Dario Franchitti ???? |
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Top price on the HS again chep ;)
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DickyM, it was just lucky for me I saw your posting of the 10 on the main fred, so ta for that. Had a treble-take when I looked at the market.
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when does the giggs/button flip flop happen?
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Cheps should have cut to 2 as I told him. He's probably gone home now and will get hammered at that price all night :-)
I'm getting in touch with the Old Trafford announcer guy (is it a new one now?) to make sure a big ramp goes out on 12th Dec :-) Home to Villa |
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At home GB. Work just phoned.
How low can he go? |
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Could bottom out at 2 eventually mate.
Seems a natural winner to me, between him and Button now, with Ennis and Haye outsiders. Ennis vote (maybe Button too) down because of lack of females viewers. |
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GeorgeBrush 02 Dec 17:23
Cheps should have cut to 2 as I told him. He's probably gone home now and will get hammered at that price all night :-) I'm getting in touch with the Old Trafford announcer guy (is it a new one now?) to make sure a big ramp goes out on 12th Dec :-) Home to Villa for real George? fair play if true. |
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*female viewers
I am a females viewer myself |
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Nothing to stop me Darren ;-)
I'm sure he'd thought of it anyway |
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also, anyone know when the one show start their profiles of all the contenders?
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Thought it was this week? I only watched Monday, that was enough for me
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if the majority of fans at that game vote twice he'll probably have at least 75% of the numbers needed.
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22.45 on bbc 1 tonight, should be interesting...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/sports_personality_of_the_year/8383800.stm |
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hard held job now IMO :)
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The one show started their profiles last night - did Strauss and Ennis.
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cheers
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Price shifing now!
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My thought are just 250k votes required to win this year. Maybe less. (283k last year)
Wales and Manchester United will take care of that themselves I'm sure |
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Compared to around 5m to win x factor lol
A bloody asian syndicate could get Idowu over the line! |
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the target to beat is the number of votes the runner-up gets:
08 Lewis Hamilton 163,864 07 Lewis Hamilton 122,649 and as has already been suggested, it will probably be an even lower figure this year with the xfactor clash. |
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what does time xfactor finish on the sunday?
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Yep, I was factoring in some certainly Darren. Say Button gets 250k because he has a nice smile?
Clarkson will probably give him a ramp too |
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The clash is 90 min.
I figure SPOTY is 7-9 (sometimes overruns, but lines would be closed then) XF 7.30 - 9.00 |
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i was thinking this was between ennis and giggs (originally couldn't see past ennis), but x factor complicates things.
not sure who, if any, are favoured/disadvantaged because of the clash. i hope the profiles of all the contenders are finished by the time xfactor is over. |
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ah, i thought xfactor was 7.00 till 8.30, but you're probably right thinking about it.
in that case, the voting will be down big time this year, surely. |
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i suppose giggs is favoured because he has a significant number of fans who will vote for him whatever, whereas the others will be relying on people being sold on them during the show.
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Think those that appeal to females (who, as I always stress have often decided SPOTY in the past) are disadvantaged this year.
Ennis, Tweddle definitely. Button, maybe even. Those with committed core votes will benefit in comparison. |
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You could be right Darren, I don't know those times for certain. Just going with the thought that XF usually finishes at 9 on Sunday.
But they may want to start same time as SPOTY |
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X Factor will be favoured by those type of people who worship at the altar of football - ie, working class. So they won't be watching S.P.O.T.Y.
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Darren Lamb
It is a lamb thing. Or at least a Welsh thing. |
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johnnyrant 02 Dec 18:07
X Factor will be favoured by those type of people who worship at the altar of football - ie, working class. So they won't be watching S.P.O.T.Y. So you need to back Cricket and Gymnastics and lay the sh1t out of boxing. |
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Johnnyrant on his holidays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUygn7BZis Sorry, jr ;-) |
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johnnyrant
The best place to lay boxing is over at the purple place. They seem to be a bit dopey over there. |
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-in-wales/2009/12/02/vote-for-ryan-giggs-in-bbc-sports-personality-poll-91466-25300225/
This seems unstoppable!!! Even the Welsh are voting for him ;) |
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Crikey cheps, 10.24 am
Did you think we'd missed it? ;-) |