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Still scratching my head over World Rugby saying Joubert's call was wrong. They should stand behind the ref right or wrong not. Refs make loads of mistakes every game. It's part of the game. Every player and supporter always feels aggrieved by the ref's calls. As I said earlier when you watch the controversial decision in real time it looks a straightforward penalty every time. Can we expect World Rugby to point out referee errors in every match from now on?
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I've got no problem with supporters moaning about it that's their right. But World Rugby should never have done that to Joubert nor any other referee.
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I think calls were made ( incorrectly imo ) for Joubert to be sent home .. perhaps because of the way he ran off the pitch when it is customary for the captains to shake hands with the officials.
He was probably unsighted when the ball touched an Australian .... perhaps World Rugby needed to check if the TMO had advised that Joubert needed to check whether the ball had touched an Australian ........ advice that had been freely given by TMOs throughout the 2015 RWC concerning things that didn't concern tries or foul play. |
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My latest home spun theory after watching the bitter end a few times that is slightly "Joubert kind" and based on the look on his face when he is looking at the big screen replay is that he may have been genuinely upset. There is a good shot of it in the coverage and you can kind of see the colour drain from his face as he looks up at the screen and maybe realises his mistake while also realising he can't do anything about it now.
Pure idle speculation and he still has questions to answer about his conduct imo but world rugby's statement afterwards beggars belief and doesn't half pile the pressure on today's refs. Anyway it was pretty raw at the time but it's gone now. I might struggle to watch tomorrows game (here is what you could have won Scotland  ) but really looking forward to the one today, should be fascinating. And good luck to Messrs Garces & Barnes, if things go wrong your on your own. |
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Agree.
He makes a potentially game changing decision a few minutes earlier when he ruled Aust knocked on from the kick off. Polota Nau was off may well have turned into points. If you put every decision of any referee under the microscope there'd be all kinds of opinions on whether they're right or wrong. |
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Taking nothing away from Scotland,they were brilliant.
But Foley did miss 9 or 12 points from the boot They had 1 intercept Try. Wallabies were asleep for another gifted Try And Wallabies had a disallowed Try. I'd back the Wallabies -14 if they were playing Scotland again tomorrow. |
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Not many people before the WC would have picked Wales and Scotland to be the best performed NH sides.
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northanlite
There is a good shot of it in the coverage and you can kind of see the colour drain from his face as he looks up at the screen and maybe realises his mistake while also realising he can't do anything about it now. What is to stop him changing his decision ? |
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The rules!!
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do intercept try's not count stewards while Aussie tries from Scotland errors are brilliant rugby? what disallowed try? you can't mean the one that was disallowed because it wasn't a try due to a knock on cos that would not make sense so must be one i missed somehow.
How come from the blown line out is Scotland's awful error and they can't handle the pressure but for that try it was lucky Scotland being gifted the points? No word of them putting the Aussies under pressure & no praise for Bennett's quick thinking in realising they had a front rower on the ball so no way was he kicking and anticipating the pass. i dare say the other way around it would be brilliant opportunism from Australia. Read a lot of this skewed logic this week and frankly it has p1ssed people off more than bad refereeing. |
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I'd love to see a ref look up at the screen while the kicker is lining up his shot and then start waving his arms and shouting,'STOP! There's been a terrible mistake. I got it all wrong I'm so sorry.'!!!!
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Well they do it now for tries, so wouldn't take much a of a rule chance to review all pens in say last 5 mins of game.
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Don't even think it! 5 minutes will turn into the whole game in the blink of an eye and the games will go for 3 hours. Plus the TMO gets it wrong as often as the ref despite having the luxury of endless replays. One of the things I love about watching club rugby is there's just one ref.
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for all that has been said about joubert he wasn't a patch on Glenn Jackson's effort at Murrayfield against Wales earlier this year.
That really was major incompetence. |
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What happened?
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The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
24 Oct 15 08:15 The rules!! nothing in the rules to stop a ref changing a decision ..... happens all the time  |
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Northanlite,obviously intercept Trys count,and fair play to Scotland(I'm really not trying to take anything away from them)
But if you'd like to offer me Wallabies -1 the next time the 2 teams meet I'd be more than happy to have a wager if you believe there is nothing between the 2 teams(or infact you are better if you take Joubert out of the equation) Your call ? |
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Define 'all the time'!!
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I like you Northanlite,and you are very very knowledgeable about your rugby(on Par with Vis) but you are running the risk of becoming bitter and blinkered like The Baptist.
Result is in,game is over.It won't change.Need to move on now. |
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I don't think he sounds bitter.
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Like the Bitter,He's not Murphys.
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To be fair I know he loves his rugby and Scotland,so I do see where he's coming from.
But when The Baptist does it We all jump on him. We just need to move on.Nobody can change the result now. |
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You can't compare him to Baptist.
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I just did.
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 that hurts  |
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I remember when Mike Phillips did us using the wrong ball in the 6 Nations.Was I upset.....Hell yeah.Did I moan........Hell Yeah.Was I angry.........Hell yeah.Was I still moaning nearly a week later......Hell No.
We all have decisions go against us.It happens(I'll probably be moaning about something this afternoon,but this time next week ? I won't be) |
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Northanlite,I did say I think you are a good lad,and good for the Rugby forum,So I really don't want this to turn into anything nasty.I've just given my opinion rightly or wrongly.
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ok you think i sound bitter but i thought you were being unfair. "australia were asleep" rather than Horne spotted them not defending the back of the ruck. Foley missed kicks like that skill isn't part of the game (several were very tricky from the touch line and Laidlaw missed a couple too) and a try was "disallowed" as though it should have been given despite the knock on. an intercept try is somehow less meaningful, Scotland score quite a few and regular pro 12 watchers will not be surprised that it is normally Glasgow players scoring them as they work hard on reading the pass and score plenty of intercepts.
i just don't see the logic. and yes if we play australia 10 times we will do well to win one and get that close in another but when did i say different? |
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North hasn't been even slightly bitter on this issue imo, he has been rather fair and balanced.
In real time, I immediately shouted penalty, for what its worth. |
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I'm not taking anything away from Scotland.I feel you think I'm blaming Scotland.
How many kicks did Foley miss against England ? How many kicjs will Foley miss tomorrow....1 at most  )I could go on,but We'll never agree on this (I suppose that's what forums are for) But I just feel this is dragging on and on and on. But I'm just a poster like the rest of us,so wrong of me to call when things should end.I won't add anymore now. You boys crack on about a game that has been and gone. |
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Good to have you back Ozy.
Hope you had a nice holiday |
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stewards the point that was initially made today was about the unfair the treatment of Joubert by World rugby for the final penalty call.
it was you who started going over other incidents in the game |
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Feel a bit meh about this weekend.
Yes its the 4 best teams in the RWC, yes its the RWC, I just hope I will be a bit more excited come kick off time. Feels like a glorified 4 Nations (or whatever it's called) and I don't always bother tuning in for that. Sorry for being so parochial. The casual rugby viewers appear to have completely lost interest...at least in this half of the world. Let us gladden our hearts by perusing the 6 Nations Fixtures; Round 1 Saturday 6th February – France v Italy (2.25pm GMT unless stated) Saturday 6th February – Scotland v England (4.50pm) Sunday 7th February – Ireland v Wales (3pm) Round 2 Saturday 13th February – France v Ireland (2.25pm) Saturday 13th February – Wales v Scotland (4.50pm) Sunday 14th February – Italy v England (2pm) Round 3 Friday 26th February – Wales v France (8.05pm) Saturday 27th February – Italy v Scotland (2.25pm) Saturday 27th February – England v Ireland (4.50pm) Round 4 Saturday 12th March – Ireland v Italy (1.30pm) Saturday 12th March – England v Wales (4pm) Sunday 13th March – Scotland v France (3pm) Round 5 Saturday 19th March – Wales v Italy (2.30pm) Saturday 19th March – Ireland v Scotland (5pm) Saturday 19th March – France v England (8pm) A proper tournament imo. |
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19th March 5pm, Grand slam decider
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Yeah, its funny how fixtures fall like that. Then the wooden spoon play off at 8!
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You are most likely correct Northanlite.I apologise if correct ,and I'll butt out.
Italy going go another 6 nations without winning a game again then. At a quick glance over those fixtures you'd have to fancy England if they get a new Boss in the chair. |
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I'll take 10/11 on Italy for Wooden spoon if your offering Ozy
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Six Nations = Play Off for Fifth!!!
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Without wanting to upset the Scots,and at the risk of having egg on my face, that fixture list looks loaded to give England a good chance of a Grand Slam.
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