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By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 29 May 26 18:17
Such an important by-election for the main protagonists and Reform choose Robert Kenyon.  Incredible really.
By:
Cider
When: 29 May 26 18:24
However much of a twaat he may be, nobody was going to compete with burnham's profile. Reform's candidate is immaterial, only Farage himself would be a difference maker in that sense. And quite obviously, a local candidate was critical anyway. Maggie Oliver may be, but she has no interest in being a MP, so that is moot.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 May 26 20:53
Dunno man. Maybe pick the guy who isn't capturing all the attention with his misoginy, Putin-loving and weird tin-foil ideas. Maybe just see if you've sorted your vetting out after all these years and pick someone who doesn't do that.
By:
Cider
When: 29 May 26 21:31
capturing all the attention Confused  it's been non stop burnham since before he was even nominated as a candidate. I don't any vetting, but you are yet another forumite talking in riddles.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 May 26 21:32
Anywon good at maffs can work out how many refuk got
By:
Cider
When: 29 May 26 21:38
most news channels actually stay away from reporting by election specifics. due to outdated purdah rools. maybe you are following the guardian on twatter, tbf.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 May 26 21:49

May 29, 2026 -- 9:31PM, Cider wrote:


capturing all the attention

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 May 26 21:49
Well, you've got the actual candidate being scrutinised and the party leader in hiding. Unless Farage is deliberately putting another dud candidate in again to lose and claim it's all a fix, I'm not sure how they could be running a worse campaign tbh.
By:
Cider
When: 29 May 26 22:00
I have no idea what you are on about. You've reeled off the liberalist checklist. 'Putin-loving'. How have you deduced that, for example?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 May 26 22:07
how's about you let google be your guide and we leave the sea-lioning for another evening.
By:
Cider
When: 29 May 26 22:22
More riddles LaughCry
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 May 26 22:36
Kenyon

"I agree totally, Russia are well within their rights to do what they have done, as we did with the Falklands.

He also explicitly agreed with a forum post that described Russia's annexation of Crimea as "democracy in action".


Some guy still in jail for taking Russian cash, rest
of the party do it for nowt, apparently
By:
yak hunt
When: 30 May 26 09:08
Reform price was coming in a little over last couple of days but now drifting right out again. Restore eating into their vote?
By:
yak hunt
When: 30 May 26 09:35
Outraged Carol Vorderman is sending a letter to 6,000 - 7,000 female voters across the constituency, saying Mr Kenyon’s social media posts show a “pattern” of comments about women, and stating "I think it matters"

Well now..
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 10:07
That'll work, as burnham is one of the liberalist types that thinks people can switch genders. Not something that typically goes down awfully well above the watford gap. Vorderman is also certifiably nuts Grin
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 10:40
A 2nd class stamp is £0.91 these days.  I can imagine better ways to spend £6k.

Carol doesn't seem to realise that media outrage from privileged people is partly what drives people to vote for Reform.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 11:20
It's been happening for over a decade. Like the brexit vote never even happened :)
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 11:36
It's quite a conflict. Almost all of my instinct is that people from that area aren't likely to appreciate being taken for mugs, used in burnham's nakedly transparent career pursuits, and bullied into who to vote/not vote for. But the other side, you have the whole mainstream machine and selected nutters that will do anything to stop Reform. I've not decided which way I will play it yet.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 12:12
Focus on who can best fight poverty and inequality and not drive it down faster and further like Reform will and that's Labour.  Farage only interested in his bank account.  Burnham will bring about the Zucman tax imo, unlike Starmer.  That's why it's such an important by-election. 

I'd sooner vote Lib Dem or Tory if they manifestoed a wealth tax, but this country is royally fooked without it and no sign of Lib Dem's doing it and no chance of the Tories.  And I can't vote Green even with a wealth tax.  I voted Labour for the first time ever at the local level.  This was just because they had the best chance of beating Reform.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 30 May 26 12:18
and bullied into who to vote/not vote for.



???
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 12:27
Burnham has no mandate for anything, save for Labour's wafer thin manifesto. In any case, your quest for a wealth tax is very marginal, most people have grown out of gcse politics. This by election has nothing to do with that. It's upside down, a continuation of the sh11t show, from a failed national politician. burnham has advantages over starmer, he is much better at hiding how much he hates us, and can string a few sentences together that someone hasn't written down for him.

I don't care about my own politics when it comes to betting. I would be backing burnham if I thought he would win easily. For me it's genuinely tough to work out the incentives. Boris was easy, his brand was bigger than the Tories. I suppose it comes down to that really, is burnham's brand bigger than labour. The media repeatedly tells us it is, but I am not convinced.
By:
yak hunt
When: 30 May 26 12:30
The Restore percentage market on here has been fairly busy. Eighteen days to go, could be dodgy backing against them at higher percentage groups. They have time on their side and appear to be making progress into the Reform vote.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 12:35
The reason I don't like Reform is because they are run by wealthy billionaires conning the working class white to vote for policies that will line their own pockets, but more importantly drive down the life chances of 80-90% of the population.

Trickle down economics is utter b/s.  We've seen from the last decades it doesn't work.  It's fair enough believing it works in the 90s, but the evidence of the last 30 years is clearly it doesn't work and only benefits the very wealthy
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 12:41
It's completely illogical, but also completely irrelevant. This by election is singly about burnham effectively, if it was another labour non entity like the one who prostrated himself for burnham, reform would be winning it. Wealthy billionaires and all. Is he really king of the north? Much like working class hero Ange, it's a largely westminster bubble confection.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 12:48
It's important to fight against corruption.  There's corruption in all political parties, but corruption is fertile where inequality of power is unabated.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 12:52
Most people think all politicians are corrupt. getting someone to give up a seat they were elected in less than 2 years ago, to create a pathway for a non MP to be prime minister, with no mandate, is pretty corrupt. I wonder how that dude will be rewarded if they pull it off. He is already shamed by making up smears about journalists lol.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 12:54
The "Zucman tax" is an internationally coordinated wealth tax standard proposed by French economist Gabriel Zucman. It requires individuals with over $1 billion (or locally, more than €100 million) in wealth to pay a minimum annual tax equal to 2% of their total assets, effectively closing loopholes that allow the ultra-wealthy to pay little or no income tax

How It Works: If an eligible individual already pays an amount equal to or greater than 2% of their wealth in income taxes, they owe nothing additional. If their current tax burden is less than 2%, they pay the difference
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 12:55
So Fred Done and Denise Coates will be ok
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 12:57
absolutely nothing to do with the Makerfield vote.
By:
Escapee
When: 30 May 26 13:23
Reform is paid for by that Thai bloke
Restore is paid for by Elmo

So it's burnham vs 2 foreign billionaires.

I'd vote for the British bloke as at least he is accountable to the British population somewhat.


P.S.
Does anyone know the difference between reform and restore?

Both Limited companies, funded by non UK billionaires, most of their MP's are defectors from other parties
and not elected under the banner they stand.

Do they have any policies? are they different at all?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 30 May 26 13:29
Restore are even more openly racist.

Surprised the forum hasn't gone full fat version, yet.
By:
Escapee
When: 30 May 26 13:30
UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield by-election        
6 Runners            £874,101 Matched   



              100.9%   98.9%             
Labour    1.34 1.35 1.36   1.37   1.38   1.39   £426,215
        £38 £1,669 £168     £1,512 £277 £289  
Reform    4.2 4.3 4.4   4.6   4.7   4.8   £172,307
        £31 £24 £136     £16 £100 £10  
Restore Britain    21 22 23   24   25   26   £271,914
        £531 £183 £2     £200 £358 £279  
Green    830 840 1000   -   -   -   £3,112
        £7 £4 £22              
Conservative    690 810 1000   -   -   -   £319
        £1 £1 £426              
Liberal Democrats    660 810 1000   -   -   -   £235
        £1 £1 £462              
By:
Escapee
When: 30 May 26 13:32
UK - By-Elections -- Makerfield - Restore Britain Vote Percentage        
9 Runners            £1,400 Matched   



              108.9%   92.6%             
Less than 5%    5.3 6 6.2   6.6   6.8   7   £473
        £42 £62 £50     £2 £10 £20  
5-9.99%    2.6 2.62 2.7   3.05   3.1   3.15   £470
        £5 £2 £1     £7 £21 £5  
10-14.99%    4.3 4.4 4.7   5.2   5.3   5.5   £69
        £2 £3 £1     £12 £10 £98  
15-19.99%    6.2 6.4 6.6   8.6   8.8   9   £66
        £10 £15 £15     £4 £2 £11  
20-24.99%    8 11 11.5   18   18.5   21   £80
        £50 £19 £6     £1 £3 £2  
25-29.99%    17.5 18 20   27   32   34   £95
        £4 £3 £1     £2 £1 £2  
30-34.99%    36 42 44   60   70   75   £54
        £5 £1 £2     £2 £1 £2  
35-39.99%    44 46 48   60   75   95   £42
        £11 £4 £1     £2 £2 £1  
40% or more    55 60 80   85   100   110   £51
        £2 £5 £1     £1 £2 £1  
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 30 May 26 14:13
A former neighbour of Mr Kenyon’s, who lived “a couple of streets away” on the same Haydock estate, said Mr Kenyon’s characterisation as Makerfield "born and bred” had “irked” him.







A 4 million donation, declared, and cider is chitting himself.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 14:15
Labour Party’s hedge fund donor pays out £360m dividend
Quadrature Capital reports doubling in turnover as profits increase nine-fold to £550 million at the firm, which donated £4 million to Keir Starmer’s party
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 14:18


heheheh
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 14:18
That's £4m for a whole political party with 250,000 members, whereas the man of the people Farage got a £5m donation just for himself
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 May 26 14:19
That's £16 per member, as opposed to £5m per Farage
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 14:20
That's all right then Laugh

You people are something else. Hypocrisy incarnated.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 26 14:33
Taylor is a fan of West Ham United soccer club and he opposed Britain's departure from the European Union.

not much going right for this champagne socialist Grin
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