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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Mar 26 16:35
Greater Manchester Police: We’ve concluded our investigation into alleged ‘family voting’ at last month’s Gorton and Denton by-election, finding no evidence of any intent to influence or refrain any person from voting.




No, I'm as surprised as you are. Surely it's a c0n5p1rAcy!
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 26 16:46
Cider 27 Feb 26 15:52 


Either you think the independent observers are lying, or you don't care when it's for a party that you don't mind benefiting from.

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I agree with this, the Police must think the observers made it up, or just had a bad day at the office (highly unlikely)
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Mar 26 17:10
If only we had some people who could investigate it further...
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Mar 26 17:15
We’ve concluded our investigation into alleged ‘family voting’ at last month’s Gorton and Denton by-election, finding no evidence of any intent to influence or refrain any person from voting.

Our investigation into alleged influencing of voters at a polling booth (under Section 62C Representation of the People Act 1983 (Ballot Secrecy Act 2023)) began after a criminal report from the Reform UK party following a public statement made by independent electoral observers at Democracy Volunteers.

We have spoken to the four Democracy Volunteers observers present at polling stations on the day of the by-election (26 February) who have shared with us their eyewitness account. This includes some instances of more than one voter going into a booth at the same time, and instances of people looking over the shoulder of voters.

The information they have provided to us estimates this may have happened on 32 occasions across 15 polling stations.

The observers do not allege any verbal instruction or physical conduct that indicated one person was directing or coercing another regarding how to vote. This is a crucial part of the legislation to prove such an offence was committed.

Our investigation team, led by an experienced senior investigating officer, spoke to all four volunteers from Democracy Volunteers as part of our enquiries – obtaining a copy of their observations.

We also spoke to the Presiding Officers at 15 stations as well as the Acting Returning Officer, none of whom received any reports other than from Democracy Volunteers.

We have received no further criminal reports.

For us to investigate allegations, we require an understanding of who the potential suspects may be, and evidence that may corroborate eyewitness accounts. For an investigation to meet the criminal threshold for prosecution, we require admissible evidence of intent or action aimed at influencing the vote.

We have asked Democracy Volunteers for descriptions of those alleged to be involved, and timings on when these are believed to have occurred. These details were not documented by observers or the complainant, and we have not been provided with any identities or descriptions to pursue.

The absence of this information means there is no remaining reasonable line of enquiry. This also includes limitations with CCTV as an absence of descriptions, and votes not being time-stamped, meaning we are not able to identify individuals from footage.

We have approached all 45 polling stations in the Gorton and Denton constituency to ask for CCTV from the day. Forty-one of those polling stations told us they did not have CCTV activated in the building as it would have compromised the secrecy of the vote during polling day, in line with advice given.

We have seized and viewed CCTV from three of the remaining four polling stations. These are three polling stations that Democracy Volunteers visited. We have spoken to the Presiding Officer from each one.

However, these stations do not show any evidence of anyone directing or coercing another regarding how to vote – the crucial part of the legislation to prove such an offence was committed.

There is no evidence to suggest any intent to influence or refrain a person from voting as stated in the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023.

We have been liaising with the Electoral Commission, who we have shared our findings with. We have also shared our findings with the Returning Officer.

We have updated the complainant about the work of our investigation and the conclusion we have reached.




A bl00dy C0n5p1rAcee!
By:
saddo
When: 27 Mar 26 17:21
Perhaps the Police would have believed them if the miscreants looked different.
There are those who we must not upset, I suspect that is the case here.
No biggy, it's how things are.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 27 Mar 26 17:27
saddo, you always blame the brown man.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Mar 26 17:29
A bl00dy C0n5p1rAcee!
By:
Stringvest
When: 27 Mar 26 17:42
F  I  L  T  H
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 28 Mar 26 11:29
You'd think if you were going to report a crime you'd witnessed you'd provide the police with a little evidence.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Mar 26 12:35
Some interesting questions for these guys to answer. They decide to make a name for themselves by announcing ONE MINUTE after polling closes that they've seen some untoward things that causes a bit of a stir among the losing side. They've monitored loads of elections but never done anything like that before. So obviously it causes a stir and needs investigating. But upon that investigation, it all just falls apart. They might see two people at the booth together but, by their own admission, no signs of coercion whatsoever. I mean, surely there are loads of times when there are two people together. If I took my mum to vote now, what with her bad legs and failing eyesight, she'd most likely ask me to put the X in the spot she wants, never mind me helping her in. So why did they decide to make a fuss over this all of a sudden, and why has it fallen about their ears so embarrassingly? Maybe there's more to it.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 28 Mar 26 23:43
https://x.com/FFS_WhatNow/status/2037966456340578791

How can anyone take these people seriously?
By:
Escapee
When: 29 Mar 26 00:40

https://x.com/FFS_WhatNow/status/2037966456340578791

How can anyone take these people seriously?


Yeah, because one of the primary things to look for in deciding who is best to run the country is "Can They Rap?"


Good call bro

By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 29 Mar 26 00:43
That was what you took from that video?

Yes bruv you are great with da maths.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 29 Mar 26 01:23
https://x.com/EssexPR/status/2038038615394046273

Yeh it's about if they can rap.
By:
Escapee
When: 29 Mar 26 01:31
your taste in videos is weird

I dunno whether to nickname you prude dude or lewd dude
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 29 Mar 26 01:39
That sounds like your typical obfuscation.

What is weird about the video?
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 29 Mar 26 04:02
Greens going to beat Labour in Locals ,What world are we living in ?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 29 Mar 26 14:27
A one where drunks constantly rant on wrong freds
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