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By:
edy
When: 28 Jul 24 12:45
It's how some people roll.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 12:47
It’s depressing

No wonder we had 14 years of Tory Government.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 12:47
Seems a bizarre route to take as it's an unwinnable
argument, at best. Making cider look stupid again.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 12:49
If police execute people rather than arresting them
then any criminal will have a sound defence to resisting
arrest charges.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 12:52
I wouldn't get in police car as I feared policeman would rape and murder me.

I feared being detained by police as he might kick me in head
and stamp on my head, so I fought hard to resist, but
was overwhelmed and then my fears were realised...
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 12:56
Don't need tv drama, we saw plod commit a crime.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 12:56
Wot about the gun excuse?

You really are clueless in this and the Law dusty
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 12:57
This is getting too bizarre
‘Execute’, ‘assassination’…

Had the Pakistanis remained in the country they had just travelled from they would have statistically been 50 times more likely to have been killed by the police.

Yet here apparently they are justified in assaulting 3 police officers on the defence perhaps something bad was said to them.

What a bunch of clowns you are.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 12:59
If there was a clear risk their weapons would be taken then they weren’t following protocol and shoukd no longer be allowed to carry weapons!

You people will hang your hat on potential argument and see it **** full of holes.
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 13:01
Ok
So to make sure their guns could never ever be at risk of being taken….perhaps the police need to be more direct, is that your stupid ass argument?
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 13:02
Be more like, erm Pakistani police perhaps
Just knock the fkr unconscious bundle them in the back of a van and them never ever be seen again?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 13:02
You have no argument

You do not understand the Law

You have no understanding of Police Protocol

You are blinded by your prejudices
By:
flat16
When: 28 Jul 24 13:03
The victims lawyer sweeps in with a priceless "cyst on the brain" diagnosis, stunning emotive racecard and sympathy joker played early.
£££££££$$$$$$$$ ching ching eat your heart out George Floyd.
Expecting a speedy mental health disorder before half time !.
By:
edy
When: 28 Jul 24 13:07

Jul 28, 2024 -- 12:47PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Seems a bizarre route to take as it's an unwinnableargument, at best. Making cider look stupid again.


There was another thread on here where Cider argued disappointment at cops being too gentle with someone who had actually already been arrested. Police men are our friend and helpers and a vital part of the state's authority, but their job description is not to be judges and to execute a verdict on alleged criminals. They do not exist to teach alleged criminals a lesson through an force that is beyond the amount that is necessary to prevent harm towards themselves and others.

https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/thread/view/94150/31830263/60-calls-for-help-for-little-boy-nee-good

Don't ask him about corporal punishment in schools btw.

By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 13:08
WD
You have embarrassed yourself enough man
Justice v law ffs
Where the stopwatch apparently starts when the ‘lawyer’ says it does and all proceeding actions must be stricken from the evidence
Because police apparently are both too learnt in their actions to allow for the possibility a civilian could threaten a gun, and too brutal in them making sure they don’t.

All the while no acknowledgement whatsoever that Pakistan coppers kill civilians at a rate in excess of 50 times more than UK coppers.

You are a total fool.
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 13:08
*too lenient
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 13:09
Oh I understand that he's a revenge and punishment freak.

That's different to not understanding the use of good in the phrase
good old fashioned
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 13:15
Let’s see what happens to the copper.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 13:18
He may elect for trial by jury.

That'll be an event and a half.
By:
edy
When: 28 Jul 24 13:19
ChatGPT knows the English language so well.

If someone writes "Just a bit of a good old fashioned scrap" does that mean they think it was a good thing?

ChatGPT: The phrase "Just a bit of a good old fashioned scrap" typically implies that the person is referring to a physical fight or altercation. In this context, the word "good" doesn't necessarily mean that the person thinks the fight was a positive or good thing overall. It could just be a colloquial way of describing a traditional or typical physical confrontation.
By:
dustybin
When: 28 Jul 24 13:27
I really couldn’t be arsed doing this but it seems I must.

The Criminal Law Act 1967, Section 3 provides for the use of force in the prevention of a crime….where a person’s use of force is REASONABLE within the CIRCUMSTANCES

I.e. you can’t cherry pick the kick without looking at what had just happened.

This is based on whether the subjective opinion of the copper seamed reasonable. (3 coppers had just been punched to the ground and were clearly resisting arrest)

The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 determines whether force was lawful based on either civil or criminal perspective.

In the case of criminal, self defence is based on what the individual thought, and on a sliding scale synopsis relative to how reasonable that thought was.


So you see mr thicky, it’s impossible to separate what had just happened with what reasoning the copper gave, based on the fact the perpetrator showed no signs of compliance (he wasn’t on the floor based on his own actions, his own actions were to resist arrest and assault 3 officers)
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 14:49
Cider clearly doesn't understand English and it's use. (sic)


:)
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 14:53
But you don't, and it's funny you repeatedly
fail to use it correctly, causing you to argue a point
that is caused by your lack of understanding.

We all produce typos but some fess up rather than argue
over being correct.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jul 24 14:54
This morning can vouch for that
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 14:55
hint:

'old fashioned scrap'

is not the same as:

'good old fashioned scrap'


Let's see some examples of an 'old fashioned scrap', good or otherwise, which involve men hospitalising women with multiple haymakers, and sucker punching other men.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 14:57
Of course it is you numpty, you really are thick.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 14:57
We all produce typos but some fess up rather than argue


Not when we're accusing others of failing to understand English. At that point it becomes quite embarrassing, in my view. Also made me :) so there is that.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 15:01
But you clearly don't understand English and are still
arguing.

My good old fashioned typo was instantly acknowledged.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 15:01
good
adjective
to be desired or approved of

good
uk/ɡʊd/ us/ɡʊd/
ADJECTIVE
very satisfactory, enjoyable, pleasant, or interesting


Introduction to adjectives

Adjectives describe nouns

to tell you more about something.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 15:02
I know what an adjective is.

Do you?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 15:02
If you are truly embarrassed by your poor English then get
better at it. Simples.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 15:03
More :)'s

:)
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 15:05
If you've never come across the phrase good old fashioned then,
on top of previous dodgy English, you should be embarrassed.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 15:09
I have come across the phrase 'good old fashioned'.

I have also come across the phrase 'old fashioned'

An adjective is used to:

to tell you more about something.


ie good emphasises positivity. It did in my education, anyway.

eg

'good old days'

Implies positivity.

'old days'

Does not.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 15:13
But you don't understand that good old fashioned does not mean good and old fashioned.

A good old fashioned racist, a good old fashioned dunce...
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jul 24 15:17
But you don't understand that good old fashioned does not mean good and old fashioned.


More :)s

:)
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Jul 24 15:22
Laughing just highlights how thick you are.

It won't make you right. Just thick.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 28 Jul 24 15:49
Let’s see what happens to the copper.


Let's see what happens to the thugs who assaulted emergency service workers going about their work
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 15:57
Yes Nobby

That’s how things are supposed to work. Let them all present their evidence.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Jul 24 15:58
Are you going me to call me a To55pot again?
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