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By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 21:48
Ha Ha - Whispering just can't seem to understand why savers are loving high interest rates , and also believes that if you don't lap up all the left wing drivel , that you  must by default support everything the Tories have ever done.

Open your mind.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:04
HMRC's tax review probably went something like this - "Over 6 years old - Tax year closed and too late to reopen " . Review concluded.

Still strange that she won't publish the advice she was given. Why might that be ?  What does she not want us to know ?

There will be plenty who will now question everything she says.
By:
A_T
When: 28 May 24 22:12
if you don't lap up all the left wing drivel , that you  must by default support everything the Tories have ever done.

not everyone johnny just you
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:12
lol, keep digging jtg.

do you think that hmrc should have applied different rules to her then? Cry
By:
A_T
When: 28 May 24 22:18
tories tried to draw in everyone they possibly could to smear her - epic fail
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:23
No - of course not - that's HMRC's  rules.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:28
then this has been a complete farce jtg has it not?

same story with the representation of the people act.

yet you were happy to throw mud at her.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:28
Can't believe the left wingers loving dodgy tax planning from their high priestess, but  scream blue murder at the legitimate stuff carried out by others.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:29
i aint no left winger, thank you very much
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 May 24 22:30
Liar sunak was guilty too, as spaffer Johnson grassed him up
for grassing him up in first place.

Liar Sunak got spaffer Johnson sacked and stabbed
him in back, so they shafted liar Sunak and
inserted mad lizzy, went well so inserted liar Sunak.

Still going well but but but starmer

But but but rayner

Only a piece of cake...
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:31
oh dear, just petty political point scoring from you all along, i am shocked.

mind you, you are the clown who hasnt stopped wanging on about the joke letter left by liam byrne 14 years ago but who now has no problem saying that labour will spend years blaming everything on the tories Sad
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 28 May 24 22:31
Have another guess johnny, nothing to see here, move along.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:34
jtg, what, in your opinion is worse, possible capital tax evasion by rayner which (may well have been accidental) for at most a few grand or badenoch hacking and altering the website of one of her political opponents?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:37
oops which should have been inside the brackets
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:41
Of course they will need excuses , when they are actually thrown the ball and they realise they aren't got a clue - I would do the same in their shoes - it's called politics.

Do you really think they will sort out - NHS, Social Care, Defence spending , Education , Trains , Energy, National Debt, Social Inequality etc ?

Of course they won't , not even one of them.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:43
jtg, can you answer a straight question?
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:44
AR demanded that Boris resigned , when he was under police investigation. She refused.

AR demanded Rishi publish years of tax returns. She refused to publish a single piece of tax advice.

She is a hypocrite.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:46
correct, it is called politics
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:48
the difference is she should not have been investigated as her possible 'crimes' were well past their statute of limitations.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:48
I know nothing about what KB may or may not have done. If what you are stating is true then it does not seem appropriate behaviour for a senior politician (both cases in fact).
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:51
here is an interesting article explaining why she wont be prosecuted despite admitting her crime jtg

https://www.engadget.com/2018-04-10-uk-politics-website-hack-mp-kemi-badenoch.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN0ptstfR8t2SjBP_iRIVqM7il6lGDBgAvSdmHoIpFbQ7FcAxcOeyD5C72Je7Cyh_LK43aCLFrRMPrhFAL_JktxNO4x94-leTk0HxGQ0MVt7R5NLCYG1aOZzTPK_2RGGBR-K4fcIUNMXpGKG78eef69Ggz2hfiJLEp-TO82hOL3E

perhaps you can read it and then tell me which is worse in your opinion.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:51
Questions needed to be asked - we have to abide by the rules with regard to our affairs - I expect the same of those that aspire to govern us.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:53
yes but it was well past the statute of limitations, you are highly partisan, that is why you started this thread.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 May 24 22:53
The plebs in Stockport tried to drop her in it
didn’t they?
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 May 24 22:56
Good result for landlords all over the country Happy
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 22:57
I didn't like her hypocritical stance - screaming for others to do something  that she wasn't prepared to do herself.
Not a trait I like in anybody and certainly not a potential top government official.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 22:58
and is she more or less suited to a potential top government post than computer hacker badenoch?
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 May 24 23:01
HMRC never really investigate these things
you don’t pay capital gains on housing unless you volunteer it
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 23:08
KB's offence is trivial, (as is AR's as I have previously acknowledged).

Based upon the two "offences" I'm more likely to believe what KB tells me than AR.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:13
wow, someone who purposely hacked and altered a website is more believable than someone who seems to have possibly, but not certainly, broken the very complicated tax laws (dan neidle who you claim to respect pointed out how easy it is to accidentally break these laws).

imo badenoch isnt fit to be in parliament. how could one possibly take her seriously on the very important and common subject of computer crime when she is a computer criminal herself.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:17
imo, if these offences or alleged offences as in rayner's case were the other way around you would think rayner should not be in parliament.

you are a hyper partisan which is why you seamlessly switched from supporting trussonomics to supporting sunak clearing up after trusssonomics. but labour.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 23:18
You make it sound like she was a serious hacker, she had a bit of fun , guessed a password and then changed a few words. No harm was done , the person whose website she amended wasn't bothered and didn't report it.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:25
if she did that now and was caught she would likely get a serious punishment, it is a much more serious crime now. what a victim of crime thinks should happen to a criminal is a bit ....

what harm did rayner do?

it is an actual crime, you started a thread about a potential crime which was long past its sell by date.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 28 May 24 23:33
I bet most people are more concerned about politicians cheating their tax than posting a joke blog post. Well ordinary people anyway.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:38
what about the law dotchinite, which would the law treat more seriously?
By:
Dotchinite
When: 28 May 24 23:39
Tax fraud.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:41
for £1500?
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 23:45
Pretty sure I haven't mentioned "crime" , but I may have slipped up.

You have to be some sort of master criminal for HMRC to take out criminal proceedings. ( Her lawyers would no doubt have told her that she was never going to get a criminal conviction with regard to the capital gains tax side of things anyway) In most cases HMRC seek redress for tax under declarations  by not taking criminal proceedings but agreeing a financial/ civil settlement.

She has still not explained how her and her husband were allowed two tax exempt homes when every other couple in the land is only allowed one ?  (Dan Neidle thought it all looked strange as well)
By:
jollyswagman
When: 28 May 24 23:46
zahwai was caught for forgetting millions and he just had to pay a penalty, i wonder what rayner would have got if she was guilty and it was within the relevant timescale??
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 28 May 24 23:47
She would have been asked to pay the tax + interest + a penalty.
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