I don't think I've heard any pro Palestinian protest speak out about the need to get rid of Hamas for the benefit of those in Gaza.

Why would they? They agree with everything the Islamists stand for. The murder/ execution of homosexuals, womens place in society being denied, girls education ending at 12 years old, criminals being beheaded (for entertainment), adulterers being stoned to death ( women only), banning alcohol, female genital mutilation, banning, banning, banning. Lefty types, that's all they know and want. A more pertinent question is, how on Earth can, supposedly, educated people look at the oppressive rule of Islamist countries (and wannabe Islamist countries) and nod their heads in agreement?

It could appear that, by refusing to engage on all of the above points, that leftists tacitly approve of male Muslim behaviour. Of course they don't imo, but they do seem happy to look the other way for as long as
possible to avoid serious open discussion on the matter.

Don't tall cr@p people that live in Gaza don't have any weapons,just look at them they are getting slaughtered unable to foight bavk even if they wanted do,you do love th western propaganda bollox and hardly anyone supports hamaas ffs,you people are just appeasers of mass murder..Another fir the blocking list.

Garbage,another load of crap the jerusalem post you may as well put up the daily mail.i know pakestinians they don't believe in any of that as a whole certainly not the younger generations,they friendly and welcoing,people go on holiday there ffs..

Evidence please

They danced in the Streets on 9/11  They Danced in the streets  on 7/10  , Plenty of evidence of Celebrating the Brutal demise of innocent folks

What are they dancing and Roaring  about  ?

Doubtless there are many good beautiful
Palestinian people .. but Hamis are an evil regime
Oh and if you should visit gaza be very very
careful what you say and who might be listening
There are many in Gaza and throughout the world
who want to see the evil continue there and elsewhere

Is it safe to visit Palestine?
The most common question we are asked is: Is it safe to visit Palestine?

This has taken an extra dimension in a COVID19 world. More on that below.

It is understandable that people have a lot of concerns about this. The first thing to say is that there are ways to travel in the West Bank that make it a very safe destination for tourists. We’ve got sound advice and travel hacks so that you can enjoy fruitful travel to Palestine, meet the locals and find the facts. This based on our decade of travel to the region, and the expertise of our Palestinian guides.


Why do people worry if it is safe to visit Palestine?
There is no wonder people worry that Palestine is unsafe! This is because it is not only an unusual destination, but we only tend to hear about it in the news. But that is the exception rather than the norm.

One of the first things that you will notice when you arrive: Palestinian people are very warm and friendly to visitors from all over the world. They really want people to visit their areas and hear their stories. If you do go to Palestine, you have a responsibility to share what you see when you return home.

Is there street crime in Palestine?
One of the next things you will notice is that street crime is very low – often lower than our own neighbourhoods, towns and cities. There is a really strong sense of community.

A visual of two Israeli police in the old City of East Jerusalem. You will see lots of Israeli soldiers and police on any visit to Palestine.
What safety ranking is Palestine given?
Palestine is considered a medium safe destination (you can check out the safety profile of countries here https://www.internationalsos.com/risk-outlook). And that is pretty amazing when you consider that it is an occupied zone. Remember that the people most at risk are Palestinians themselves, followed by Israelis, followed – at some distance –  by international visitors. You can look at the casualty data here https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties.

Will I be safe from COVID?
The good news is that the Palestinian Authority has been widely praised for their handling of the COVID19 pandemic. As of now – Spring 2022 – it is possible to enter Israel and subsequently the West Bank (part of occupied Palestine) as a tourist, with some form filling and tests. However, Palestine is an occupied country, and has a health system to match. Make sure you have a good travel and health insurance policy before travelling – and double-check it covers the occupied Palestinian territories. You can get more detailed health advice from the UK Government site.

Is Palestine popular with visitors?
Palestine is also becoming a more and more popular place to visit. We’ve seen a massive increase in visitors since we started our tours in 2011. But when we met with the Palestinian Minister of Tourism and Antiquities, Rola Maayaa, we were impressed when she told us that more than 2.8 million tourists were due to visit Palestine by the end of 2018.

Plan ahead: book your accommodation!
But what that means for you is that hotels and hostels are getting booked up! Our first tips is to make sure that you do book ahead. Otherwise, like Mary and Joseph, you may find there is no room at the inn!

Also, you should pack a few essentials that will make your trip much easier, and cover any emergencies.

How to stay safe when visiting Palestine: allow longer for journeys
The difference between travelling around the West Bank and travelling around a normal area, is because Israel occupies Palestine there are road blocks and checkpoints. This is normally just an inconvenience (mostly for Palestinians; internationals normally pass through quickly) but it does mean you should allow longer for your journeys.

How to stay safe in Palestine – avoid flashpoints
If you really want to understand the situation, no visit to Palestine would be complete without meeting displaced Palestinians at one of the many refugee camps or visiting one of the Palestinian villages affected by settlements.

The city of Hebron is also a fascinating and welcoming place to visit. But these can all be flashpoints for conflict between the Israeli Army, Palestinians and sometimes settlers.

The safest way to travel is to visit with Palestinians, who will know if there is going to be a problem and what to do if there is. This is normally much easier to do in a group.

Is it safe to visit to Palestine alone?
Many people have a wonderful time travelling on their own. One of the problems you may experience is not of safety but of cost and convenience. It is harder to get to further away places because transport is limited, and it is harder to make the contacts that you need to meet the most interesting people and places if you aren’t travelling in a small group with expert leads.

Is it safe to visit East Jerusalem?
Yes, it is relatively safe but to get the most of out of East Jerusalem we would recommend a Palestinian guide, or someone from one of the organisations that organize tours, such as ICAHD or Alternative tours. If you are travelling alone or as a couple of the easiest ways to get a glimpse of the situation is to take a tour into East Jerusalem and its surrondings.

Read our guide on what to do in Jerusalem and the West Bank.

What about Hebron?
Hebron, or Alkhalil as it is known in Arabic, is one of the places that we’ve experienced most hostility from Israeli settlers, and being with someone or a group with experience will help ensure that you don’t get into hot water!

If you aren’t travelling with an expert small group like ours, then perhaps book onto one of the tours of Hebron that start out in Jerusalem. However, many of the day trips only travel if there are a minimum number of participants. So make sure that you’ve got friends or contacts who want to join you.

Is it safe to go on demonstrations or protests?
Protests and demonstrations are one of the flash points you should avoid if want to make sure you stay safe. Sure, Palestinians do want solidarity from visitors and if you may decide to participate. But it is one of the riskiest activities in the West Bank. Although Palestinian demonstrations are generally non-violent the response from soldiers is not. Tear gas canisters, rubber and metal bullets can cause serious injury and death.

If you are in an area and think a demonstration is likely to occur, consider moving away to another area.

Is it safe to visit Gaza?
It is really difficult to visit Gaza right now, unless you work for an NGO, are a medic or sometimes a journalist. That’s a shame because it is a really beautiful place right on the coast of the Mediterranean. Hopefully, soon the restrictions will be lifted and when they are we will be amongst the first to visit again!


Get the most out of your travels!
So, is it safe to visit Palestine? Overall, our experience is that Palestine is a safe, friendly and interesting place to visit. But if you want to get the most out of it whilst travelling safely there are advantages to travelling in small expert groups like ours. However, you travel, make sure you follow the Palestinian ethical code..

Beautiful - Nazi Germany as a travel destination
how Hitler duped tourists ..

Nazi era Germany was not necessarily the number
one destination for foreigners to travel abroad but
that isn’t to say it wasn’t seeing any visitors
Germany wanted to encourage people to see it
as a travel destination .. ‘for both economic and
propagandist reasons ‘

Ring any bells on this forum .. ?

People are going to have to get over this nonsense
that they are owed a country or land or property
You don’t - unless you name is on the title deeds ., that’s how it is in England and everywhere else live peacefully with your neighbours
go to school / uni / get a job , get married / settle down
Yes it might sound boring or difficult , sorry that’s life

Couldn't be bothered adding a smiley face.

Disgusting antisemitism has always been rife amongst lefties - as seen with the usual Corbin lovers on here.

They hate it being pointed out because they know it is true.

You point out the truth and they start
jumping up and down and using bad language
then they become belligerent and then possibly
even violent

They don’t like it

They don't like it up 'em.
The cold steel of truth when they look in the mirror.
They want to believe that Israel is at fault and is a rogue state to justify their
own anti-semitism.

But outside of the BBC and some Labour or "progressive" activists, most people can see that the real rogue states are Iran and North Korea.  Hard to know which of those 2 is the worse.

you're..*

Have to say lfc, I find that a shocking view.

Israel will claim to have done it and deny it in the same sentence

Israel must thread very carefully

A new study is casting doubt on the idea, held by some but not most American Jews, that antisemitism is just as prevalent on the far left as it is on the far right. Though far more American Jews consider the far right as the greater antisemitic threat, some academics and Jewish leaders have embraced horseshoe theory — the idea the opposite ends of an ideological spectrum are similar — and applied it to antisemitism.

Though the Anti-Defamation League, for example, has identified the far right as far more threatening to American Jews, its leader, Jonathan Greenblatt, has compared far-left critics of Israel as the “photo inverse” of the extreme right.

While antisemitism on the right tends to focus on conspiracy theories about Jews being disloyal to white people or rejecting conservative values, on the left it’s often tied to blaming Jews for actions undertaken by Israel.

A paper published in June in the journal Political Research Quarterly found that anti-Jewish beliefs are far more popular in right-wing circles, particularly among young people.

The results show that “there’s a problem on the young right,” said study author Eitan Hersh, an associate professor of political science at Tufts University. “It’s very interesting and, I think, concerning that we have this rare form of prejudice that is more common among young people and old people. It’s kind of shocking because if you look at other forms of prejudice, like racism, sexism, anti-gay attitudes, they’re just way higher among older people than younger people.”

For the study, a survey was sent to 3,500 American adults, 2,500 of them between the ages of 18 and 30. Respondents were asked to reply to a series of questions, such as whether they believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than the U.S.; if it’s appropriate to boycott Jewish-owned businesses to protest Israeli policies, and whether Jews have too much power. They were also asked questions to test for a double standard. For instance, one question would ask whether Jews who want to participate in activism must first denounce Israeli actions against Palestinians, and then a similar question was posed about Muslims denouncing a Muslim country’s actions.

Hersh said he was surprised by the results. Those on the left were less likely than even political moderates to believe Jews were more loyal to Israel. They were also less likely than moderates to think Jews have too much power or that boycotting Jewish businesses to protest Israel was acceptable. Young adults who held the most conservative views were almost five times more likely to say it was acceptable to boycott Jewish businesses than those on the farthest left and almost 10 times more likely to say Jews had too much power.

And while those who held these views of Jews also held the most extreme right-wing views, Hersh cautioned that this was not some tiny minority but rather a portion of the population that is “pretty significant” and is being radicalized by an online discourse that has little use for political correctness or tolerance.

He noted that antisemitic attitudes in young people were more prevalent in those who identify as Catholic, which could be a reflection of the growing “tradcath” or traditionalist Catholic movement, which openly condemns liberal reforms adopted by the Catholic Church and contains splinter groups that are often antisemitic.

“These are young people raised in a generation conditioned by social media to essentially say things that are gonna get attention,” said Hersh. “The older generation of conservatives is more dominated by evangelicals and the evangelical community has a much stronger relationship to Israel.”

Some groups often lumped into leftist demographics, such as Blacks and Hispanics, also have a tendency to hold more antisemitic views. But Hersh said those groups in actuality tend to be split politically. “The finding is that if you are Black or Hispanic and you identify as conservative, that is the population that has the highest, by far, rate of agreement with the antisemitic statements. If you are Black or Hispanic on the left, it’s much higher than white people on the left, but it’s still low relative to the right.”

While the survey did reveal much about the attitudes of the far left and far right about Jews, it was not aimed at describing how those attitudes manifest in the real world. A prior survey conducted by Hersh indicated that Jews on college campuses “pay a social cost if they support the existence of the State of Israel, or for participating in Jewish life on campus.” That rejection of Jews, he said, often comes from those who align with progressive groups. But far-right extremists have also been responsible for acts of violence, including the attack on Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue that left 11 people dead — the deadliest antisemitic incident in American history.

Hersh said his hope is that this new data can be used to construct better, more efficient strategies for combating antisemitism.



Suck on that dum dums people who conflate jews with Israels actions could be anti semetic which is obvious,and as i said orthodox jews get beaten up by zionst jews as they do not support them,in other words anti semetic judaism is not zionism if they are that extreme that other jews are persecuted then that is anti semitism..Israel has a rightwing racist government fact,has nothing to do with jews or wether they should have their own state only an idiot or anti semite would argue with that..

Going to listen to Billy Graham ..