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I am overall neutral jollyswagman.
But I believe it was a vindictive Israeli attack. Building up the numbers.. Even if we dismiss the 500 murdered (unattributed) Palestinian children outnumber total Israeli casualties over the last twelve days. This is before the Israelis go in to Gaza. I'm a proud British subject and, if I'm going to have to see the Israeli flag imprinted on 10 Downing St., I want to be able to to support that position. But this persecution and ethnic cleansing makes my skin crawl. |
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lapsy, lots of rush to judgement here, just as with the 40 decapitated babies story. lots of disinformation is, sadly, inevitable. keep calm and realise that both sides are capable of telling lots of lies. the cycle of violence will continue.
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do me a favour u b, 1400 slaughtered israelies in the first attack.
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Oh, are we counting from there..?
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Thanks JS.
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wow, u b you are vile.
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Tbf Ub sees how this is unfolding and credit to him for saying it.
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how does he see it? through a lens that doesnt have to live his through his beliefs?
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doesnt have to live through a lens that doesnt see his beliefs. sorry for typos
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He knows what happened but the price the palestinian people could be a huge multipile.
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do any of you seriously think a palestinian state is closer than it was two weeks ago?
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do any of you seriously think a palestinian state is closer than it was two weeks ago?
The people pulling the strings don't even want a Palestinian state. They just want to kill Jews. |
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Not from Israel and that at this point is correct,rest of the world or middle east if Israel does it so wrong, just maybe, morally it is a gimme.
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By that i mean a more fairer state.
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doesnt have to live through a lens that doesnt see his beliefs.
wow, u b you are vile. Bit of a word salad. Sorry to fall below your standards, jollyswagman Maybe sleep on it and come back tomorrow. |
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there was a video of the rocket/missile blowing up in the sky was a direct hit, it broke up and hit the hospital, crazy stuff, and probably a mistake.
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Some appalling posts on here if that turns out to be true. Let's hope they are not removed.
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Name them Saddo,don't do a snidey aftertime.
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anything by giggolo.
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Wait til we know who did it lapsy, the posts are there for you to see. The second poster on the thread was readily convinced it was Israel with no evidence at all.
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I bet you can,t wait, i wonder does anyone care about right or wrong currently but once racist prejudices are half justified they are sadly even half happy,and yes you can keep that one.
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Sad to say it but it is a race issue by many.
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Will that be your excuse Lapsy?
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Excuse for what? a siege and bombardment of a small area where the population is enclosed and bombarded with bombs doing without water,food and medicine?
I'll sleep tonight. |
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I'm asking if race is your excuse for jumping in two feet first on the thread without engaging your brain?
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1,000 children killed in Palestine when do they condemn these murders by the Israelis??No water people drinking sea water,no electric babies born prematurely no anaesthetucs for operations limbs blown off and no food,this is genocide pure and simple..What else can you call it,jews all over the world speaking out against it,the Israel government are facist racists ands anti semetic,just like when they beat up orthodox Jews,it's easy to understand..
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https://twitter.com/jvplive/status/1714715291702149176
Jewish Voice for Peace @jvplive HAPPENING NOW: Hundreds of American Jews are holding a sit-in at Congress — and we won’t leave until Congress calls for a ceasefire in Gaza. As thousands of U.S. Jews protest outside, over 350 are inside, including two dozen rabbis, holding prayerful resistance.. We’re here to say: not in our names, and never again. And we’ll continue our civil disobedience until Congress calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, or until they force us to leave.. Ceasefire is the first step to stop the ongoing genocide by the Israeli military of the over 2 million Palestinians in beseiged Gaza, unable to leave In the past week, over 3,000 Palestinians, including 1,000 children, were murdered by Israeli and U.S. bombs. Over one million people are displaced. We have the power to stop this violence.. |
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Giggilo ,any Idea why the Arab states do not want anything to do with these People ?
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Be waiting the British evidence first.
wtf we dont even know what caused the Luton fire was it electric diesel a combo and you think our intel are going to know Jesus Christ |
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Plenty on here with holes in their shoes.
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different religions case, in the north they believe in god, peace, love & hospitality, but in the south they believe in god, love, hospitality & peace.
a bit like someone from Manchester will cheer for Manchester city and hate on Manchester united or vis versa |
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Palestine never existed as a country until Britain created British Palestine
ask yourself this when was England created Was it 1066 with William The Conqueror |
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Ceasefire is the first step to stop the ongoing genocide by the Israeli military of the over 2 million Palestinians in beseiged Gaza, unable to leave
When are they going to ask all European Americans to leave America and let the Native Indians have their land back one of the largest genocidal ethnic cleansing ever to happen in the modern world |
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Dan Cohen
@dancohen3000 BREAKING: Israeli member of Knesset Ofer Cassif ( @ofercass ) has been banned by the Knesset Ethics Committee's from Knesset sessions and meetings for 45 days. The ban was decided after a series of critical interviews with foreign media in which MK Cassif accused the Israeli government of committing a massacre in Gaza. Below is Cassif's official response: The Ethics Committee's decision is another nail in the coffin of freedom of political expression in Israel. In each of my interviews, I strongly and bluntly condemned of, and expressed my deep disgust at the criminal massacres by Hamas. My political statements against the occupation and war are not statements against the State of Israel, since peace and justice also serve it and its citizens. All Israelis are severely harmed by the everlasting bloodshed and the narrowing of the democratic space. The Israeli government is indeed carrying out a massacre in Gaza and wished for war and violence to pursue its policy. My statements are legal and legitimate political ones. My punishment is a form of political persecution. The “government of atrocities” is bringing a disaster upon both the people of Israel and the Palestinian people, and now also conducts a McCarthyism-style hunting campaign against critical voices within the Israeli society." Even in these difficult days I will not be silent and will continue to fight for the principles for the realization of which I was elected - peace, equality, and justice for all. Fascists.. |
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Just look at all those protesting now ffs.
All convinced the hospital bombing was Israel simply because they too dumb for objective thought. They actually protesting about how useless the people they are forced to follow are. And there are people here just as fkn stupid. An earthquake flattens a town and they manage to pull out a relative alive…that’s god Somebody else finds theirs dead, that’s not god. Possibly the west. Somebody else sets off a bomb against non Muslims, that’s for god Some fellow Muslim incompetent fires a rocket into themselves, that’s Israel, no question. This is what everyone has to deal with in the Middle East and unfortunately increasingly here. It’s called an Apophenia. People on this thread automatically assuming Israel are at fault because Muslims kill other Muslims after killing non Muslims in a misplaced belief it’s part of making the world more brainwashed an mono religious should be ashamed of themselves. They are just as daft as them. |
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wasting your time speculating whats going on
both parties very secretive |
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There have always been protesters against any
war - until the hostages are released and Hamas is destroyed this war is not going to end |
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Iran continues to lie about hospital explosion
to fuel conflict .. those who do so in media and forums are actively complicit in the deaths |
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There have always been protesters against any
war Although I can't think of any war before off the top of my head where people protest for a people and fall over themselves trying to show how much they care for them but never protest against the violent autocratic regime that rules them and uses them as human shields. I mean we hear of people protesting against Putin and we hear of Russian dissidents in foreign countries that are extermely critical of the ruling regime but in this war we have people condenm Hamas actions to massacre civilians but I don't think I've heard any pro Palestinian protest speak out about the need to get rid of Hamas for the benefit of those in Gaza. No water, electricity, food in Gaza supposedly but what they do seem to have is plenty of rockets. |
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When do islamists emulate those in the west taking to the streets for their benefit, each time a Muslim apparently goes against their faith and creates atrocities in the west through terrorism?
Why arn’t they actively insulted enough against the perception of their faith to distance themselves from the act? All you ever get at excruciating difficulty is an imam who is politically positioned that gets leaned on to make a statement. There are never hordes taking up a conviction like all the placard carrying (ill)liberals. |