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By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 17:23
I will be quite quick.

Edwin Poots 'The DUP campaigned against the GFA,it consistently opposed and never signed it or signed up to it'

So is it you or Edwin telling the truth here?
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:32
Lapsy what part of the GFA did the DUP not sign up to
And how were they sharing power in Stormont if they hadn’t signed up to it ?

How did that come about ?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 17:34
They might have only signed the bits they liked Lfc  Wink Laugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:36
Maybe Paisley was never in Stormont ,
Seem to recall he was joint ist minister , no ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:41
He signed up , he was joint Ist minister
And shared power as I have explained

Now tell us , what did nationalists and republicans do
to bring about peace and the GFA ..
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:44
We can see the remarkable concessions
and compromises made by the Unionists , including the DUP

Now the nationalists and republicans .. what was their contribution to bringing about peace ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:45
Take your time …
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 17:46
Lots of stuff in the GFA which are pure common sense and practical like integrated education systems,shared housing schemes,civic forums and a few other things which i can why they are saying no(Irish language one) but that is basically why they are against it.

A party who are trying to cling to their supremist statelet despite the world moving on and youth figuring it out,their time is nigh.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:52
You haven’t answered the question lapsy

And no preaching about integrated education
from a section of society the nationalist / catholics who were instrumental over the
last 100 years of a religiously segregated school system instead of attending the state schools
which were there for all faiths or none . Remarkable , Is nothing ever nationalists fault
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 17:54
Another core GFA element is the 'bill of rights' blocked in 2010 and stopped again in 2021.

This bill deals with mutual respect and parity of esteem,why block equality?
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 17:57
Now an integrated school system would be best , and is what there should be
But there’s not much point - unless of course the catholics stop the practice of segregation and religious schools
let us know when that happens
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 18:01
We can go into all that if you want lp later

But in the meantime just remember and be thankful
It was the Unionists who made the GFA , and peace possible
By the remarkable compromises and concessions they made - to bring about peace
Be thankful
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 18:02
Not true again,i will leave you guess which side St Columbanus's College is,over a third of protestant pupils.

These integrated systems and housing are not the fault of nationalists as you are alluding to but a failure of the dup to acknowledge and implement the gfa for the good of everyone in NI.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 18:09
Let me know when the Catholic
children are going to the state schools
Which are there for everyone Protestant and Catholic or any religion or none
Until then no preaching about segregated schools
It’s not a difficult concept
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 18:12
Oh , and you still haven’t answered that question I notice

Here it is again , what concessions and compromises did nationalists and republicans make
To bring about peace ..


Take your time …
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 18:32
They decommissioned their arms unlike the loyalist terrorists
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 18:51
No ,upside down thinking again lapsy  the IRA agreed to stop murdering and bombing
because of the remarkable concessions given by the Unionists-
as I have described in the hope for peace . This was Unionist compromise

I am asking you what where the concessions made by nationalists and republicans
to bring about peace ….
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 18:52
were *
By:
MALAY
When: 07 Feb 23 19:14
lapsy don't communicate with this bigot please
By:
lapsy pa
When: 07 Feb 23 19:21
Sound Malay,i hear ya, no answers except misinformation and his cap doffin associate cannot answer anything at all except lash out

Better things to be doing indeed.
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 19:31
With you lapsy , great effort trying to get common sense into the conversation
By:
MALAY
When: 07 Feb 23 19:33
lapsy Irishone, anytime the 2 bigots post they might be same person

post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwzbu5w6X0


they will soon go away i've not the time but lets wipe them out if youse are around, Rangers died ya horrible cants.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 19:47
Now , I notice lapsy hasn’t been able to answer
the question … What did nationalists and republicans do to
bring about peace ..

and from the disgusting angry response from the likes of malay
we can see why he is having difficulty answering ,Laugh
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 19:48
I went to an under 15 schoolboy international in glasgow to sign a kid pro. I was courted by the SFA and their bbt s (blazer badges and ties). Could not believe how sectarian they were when they found out I was there to sign a Catholic.  He never made it fully pro , but I never went back after that !
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 19:49
LFC .....


Quick take your pills and get to bed ,Matron is coming round.
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 23 19:50
Rangers died ya horrible cants.

Rangers still here and still living in your head.
Hope the Man City investigation doesn't prove too costly for your beloved celtic. Laugh

Reports indicate Celtic are being investigated by Anti-Corruption aithorities due to their "special relationship" with the Man City that involved unusual transfers of Patrick Roberts, Dedryck Boyata, Jason Denayer, Olivier Ntcham, John Guidetti and Daniel Arzani
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 19:51
Here we go ....the forum goat liar AKUBULIAR
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 19:52
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MALAY
When: 07 Feb 23 19:55
lads as said previously don't reply to these 2 scumbags on politics, they are possibly same person, because then all we can laugh at it is aka posting sevco great end to season on football forum 2023, already disgraced himself today. Be good laugh.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 19:55
It’s perhaps no wonder when we see their reactions
as to why the IRA were able to commit so many murders and bombings
and cause so much horrific injuries … over such a long period

No we have only to read the posters who are apologists for the IRA
It’s very clear how such madness was allowed and sustained and endorsed
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 23 19:57
Logs out - reads post - logs back in.
Fools no one.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 19:57
Doubtless scum bags like malay cannot face
the truth .. but then again he is an apologist
for such terrible things
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 19:59
aka don’t engage with the Irish bigot or lapsy
or malay ..
just point out the truth .. and that is enough to send them running Happy
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 23 20:00
What a life malay has. Obsessed with me and the Rangers. Bigots ar5e like that though.
TBF it tears him apart to be British.
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Feb 23 20:00
okey doke , football ..
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 20:04
NOW GET TO BED LFC ......

...and dont forget to take your teeth out
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irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 20:05
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irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 20:07
Luv it when you get them jumping up and down ......

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By:
peckerdunne
When: 07 Feb 23 22:06
Let’s be honest: barring some miracle, the DUP will come out of this election just as strong as from the last one. The party that’s proved its incompetence and corruption time and time again; that consistently slumps behind public opinion on LGBTQ and women’s rights; and that disregards its commitments both to integration and the Irish language sector, is likely to continue defining governance in the North. They will continue to use the Petition of Concern to veto progress and equality.

Previous elections have shown how the DUP manages to consolidate its dominance, even in the face of these scandals. So, the question for progressive activists becomes: how do we beat the DUP? What’s the most effective way to reduce their electoral power? In other words, how do we get people to stop voting the bigots in?

The answer lies in the reasons people vote DUP. A majority of their voters are not driven by support for their social or economic policies, or their method of governance. Instead, the DUP effectively campaign on the basis of “keeping them’uns out” (one has only to look at 2016’s “Keep Arlene First Minister” campaign to see this). As long as there is a Nationalist bogeyman- specifically that of Sinn Féin- to point to as a threat, the DUP will leverage it to get potential supporters to vote for them.

Having elections based on NI’s “constitutional question” fundamentally plays into their hands- and even if framing elections around Unionism versus Nationalism causes nationalists to vote for Sinn Féin, it will give them more reasons to enthuse their supporters in loyalist areas; the stronger the nationalist bogeyman, the longer the DUP can hide behind their unionism.

To be clear, discussing the North’s constitutional position is not sectarian. But the DUP use it to paper over the cracks of their corruption and bigotry. And in the unfortunate paradox of Northern Irish politics, the more Sinn Féin’s nationalism pushes for popularity, the further it gets from power to implement policies that benefit Irish people, working class communities, or even Irish unity, as the DUP use their unionism to power their extremism.

For real, decisive progress on equality and fundamental change in Stormont, the North needs an opposition that the DUP can’t use as an electoral asset.

This doesn’t mean activists should abandon their constitutional views. But it does mean we have to consider the best long-term way to achieve our political goals, and to deprive our opponents of the means by which to succeed. We have to de-sectarian-ise the North’s politics, to allow people of every background no reason to vote for the DUP. The bigots will only lose prominence once they lose the power to incite sectarianism.

The voices of the future in Ireland’s politics, for better or worse, must come from post-conflict organisations if they’re ever going to effectively overturn DUP rule and improve the lives of people in the North.

Here’s hoping that those post-conflict parties will continue to grow in this election, and provide accountability to which the DUP cannot shout “IRA!” in response.
By:
irishone
When: 07 Feb 23 22:14
Good shout pecker

That is exactly what you see on this forum.
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