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Loads of opinions
Loads of sh1te Where's the evidence for this propaganda please |
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, i am trying (and failing, unsurprisingly) to get him to admit he was talking hogwash.
You will have to put up a link, Jolly, I've just wasted an hour looking for what was actually said. |
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idk which thread it was on
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Benefits of eu citizenship? I am not having some unelected bureaucrat telling me I have to eat straight bananas.
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https://x.com/jonesycartoons/status/1804792349094027607?s=19
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UK fastest growing economy in the G7 in first three months of 2024.
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Fastest growing economy, bouncing back from recession, and
then flatlining in April. Dead cat bounce? |
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Metro Bank have just announced a change to their terms and conditions and now all debitcard purchases in Europe will have a 2.99% fee.
Time to switch accounts |
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“A Tory Minister Has Finally Admitted That Brexit Has Been Bad For Many British Businesses.
Kevin Hollinrake said there was "no doubt" it is now more difficult to trade with the EU.” |
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https://x.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1837735384760889740?s=19
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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/brexiteer-sir-rocco-forte-says-hes-packing-his-bags-for-italy-348494/
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if Labour gets in at the next election.
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He has always been a Tory, donating £100,000 to the Conservative Party before the most recent election and throwing a £12,000 victory party for Boris Johnson when he was appointed leader at his Mayfair hotel.
But he’s been left with a sour taste in his mouth over the party’s handling of the split and has recently announced he has turned off the money tap because the Conservatives have failed to deliver economic growth. Instead, he’s headed to Italy, where he can grow his business more seamlessly. Brexit, lol. |
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if Labour gets in at the next election.
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ciao rocco
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if Labour gets in at the next election.
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Brexit is on course to cut UK trade by 15 per cent, the government’s independent financial watchdog has warned.
Vote Leave campaigners argued that British trade would receive a boost from exiting the European Union in the run up to 2016’s referendum. But in documents published alongside Rachel Reeves’ Budget the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said that “weak growth in imports and exports over the medium term partly reflect the continuing impact of Brexit, which we expect to reduce the overall trade intensity of the UK economy by 15 per cent in the long term.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-trade-reduction-obr-eu-b2638317.html |
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Trade means imports and exports. More exports would benefit some people in the economy but more imports damage UK business and cost us jobs. It is swings and roundabouts and our growth in the last 12 months is higher than the EU. And how much extra money will EU member states have to find to compensate Spain for the recent flooding? That would have included us.
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Taking 12 month periods when we catch up or are in a different
part of an economic cycle to mitigate slightly the disaster of the oven ready brexit is comical. |
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How have you been disadvantaged by Brexit yhtl? For me it is all positive other than not having the EU to prevent the far left (or far right) taking over.
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Read the thread, lol, open your eyes, stop drinking the kool aid.
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Brexit was always going to be bad for business but was promoted by and voted for thick racist cants.
It could never be voted or promoted on a business positive issue, it has cost most businesses fortunes. double legislation compliance |
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just like gambling if you got something wrong, admit it to yourself or you will lose again, and thats what the idiotic brexit voters don't want to do.
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Historically our economy has tracked the German economy on many indicators ,we both share the same ultra high energy costs and both would of course have been in economic recession.
Two factors saved us ,we have a higher % of service industries in our GDP and less manufacturing and of course we have BREXIT ,opening new markets daily. It is hard to extrapolate the true figures when mixed in with covid and cost of living crisis and our incompetent gov's ,so some don't try and blame brexit for everything including potholes ,higher motor insurance ,bird flu and just about everything else. |
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Lol, strawman.
Taking the whole, and not just narrow ideas, brexit is costing us £40billion in lost taxes, a year. About what Reeves tried to raise yesterday. |
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Between 54 and 60% of farmers voted for Brexit
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As an ex farmer I can see why! My main reason was not economics though. Just as most of the Catalans and the Scots hate being told what to do by people they see as foreigners, I objected to being told what to do by people who definitely were foreigners and most of whom have hated our guts for 40 years. It was a fight for independence from a Colonial power in my eyes.
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It's over - done - we ain't going back any time soon - move on.
Even those still waffling on about rejoining have no idea about any terms of rejoining ? - Can't see the EU wanting to spend time negotiating possible rejoining terms only for the British people to then say No ! We aren't going to be offered concessions , so good bye to the pound ! ? It isn't going to happen - save your energy. |
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Agreed Johnny but the pro European lobby is still very powerful. Jobs for the boys (like Mr Kinnock)
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The debate isn't going away as long as we are talking about growth. You can't say you're main purpose is growing the economy and not address the single biggest boost that you could give, which would be removing the trade barriers between us and our near neighbours.
Frequent questions in parliament and another one raised on QT last night. I think the tories did a good job of consigning it to history but Labour are going to find it much more difficult to ignore. |
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We had (and still have) a Trade deficit with the EU. Some companies import stuff, others export stuff. The biggest winners are hauliers and bankers who provide currency exchange. And Customs and Excise. How does any of that benefit the rest of the UK?
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You can't be really serious about pushing for growth, when the top guys create massive uncertainty , talk the economy down for months and then hammer the economy with £40bn of extra taxes.
It makes no sense at all - clearly a stupid approach to "pushing for growth". |
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You can keep your tribalism.
The simple fact is that the government's focus is on growth. That's a fact. Talking about it and ignoring the elephant in the room will only hold so long. |
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The tories got away with it as they could push economic growth down the agenda. Sovereignty or some other pap was more important and that was an easy sell to the mugs who fell for the lie. But they're gone now and Labour didn't push that line so can't hide behind it.
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..and Government financed growth is artificial - it's like a business owner borrowing money and buying up his own stock ..."Oooh look at my accounts - great year ! "
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The government's focus can't be on growth or it would not have done what they have. Just saying the words "growth" over and over again means nothing.
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Again, that's irrelevant.
All I'm saying is that if your stated aim is economic growth and you are loudly proclaiming that then the question of our relationship with the EU can't be ignored forever. You can cling on to whatever you like to get you through the night but that's just a simple fact. |
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Why do I need to cling onto anything ? - We left. You seem to be the one looking for a pillow to cuddle.
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Ok. So you magically think people are just gonna stop talking about it.
Have a very good evening. |