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By:
impossible123
When: 25 Feb 21 16:29
I remember the smoking brigade (FOREST) used the same argument eg why discriminate and deny smoker's the right to smoke in public places despite smoking is one of the main causes of cancer. But, they woke up when discarded ciggi buts were found to be responsible for setting alight King's Cross Underground killing and injuring many lives.

If anyone is still unaware of the deadly consequences of Covid then either the person probably has been in a bunker for the last year, selective in their memory loss or anti-government/anti-Bojo/anti-UK ie a person with a personal agenda or ulterior motive. Any further engagement is futile and non-productive.

Best then to place them on "ignore" like I've done with a few here.
By:
wolf3011
When: 25 Feb 21 16:35

Feb 25, 2021 -- 4:29PM, impossible123 wrote:


I remember the smoking brigade (FOREST) used the same argument eg why discriminate and deny smoker's the right to smoke in public places despite smoking is one of the main causes of cancer. But, they woke up when discarded ciggi buts were found to be responsible for setting alight King's Cross Underground killing and injuring many lives.If anyone is still unaware of the deadly consequences of Covid then either the person probably has been in a bunker for the last year, selective in their memory loss or anti-government/anti-Bojo/anti-UK ie a person with a personal agenda or ulterior motive. Any further engagement is futile and non-productive. Best then to place them on "ignore" like I've done with a few here.


Quite funny how you talk about some people being incapable of engagement and then block people who laugh at your silly posts talking about forcefully jabbing people so you effectively end up talking to yourself. If you have a meltdown and "ignore " people who disagree with you on a public forum, why not just talk to yourself in the bathroom mirror and not bother logging in

By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 16:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=80qVyf4aHQc&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=SkyNews


You guys reckon he knew at the time?

How anyone can trust anything this gove (pardon the pun) says is beyond me.


Constantly shifting goalposts, clearly designed to stop or delay public unrest, then a large proportion pretty much bribed to stay quiet - can we say 12 months on that we would accepted these terms for the end result (one of the highest death rates in world, but im sure it would have been much worse without lockdownLaugh), freedoms eroded, economy being held up like a drunk at the end of the bar (who is about to collapse monumentally), mental health destroyed, educations ruined - and that's with the naive optimism that were 'in the final stretch'.


I find it astounding, people are still listening to them, never mind still trusting them implicitly, and actively supporting them in dividing the country even further - literally doing their job for them, behavioral analysis team at SAGE due a huge rise imo, they genuinely deserve it.
By:
wolf3011
When: 25 Feb 21 16:46

Feb 25, 2021 -- 2:44PM, frog1000 wrote:


The virus has not decimated the economy.Government policy has.Back in the 50s and 60s economies had no hit because we did not have such a pathetic response. The modern age of social media people can be quickly manipulated. Look how fast last year many hit the streets after G. Floyd and J. Blake died. Massive uproar in the media and on social media. Those same people that were manipulated to protest did not even blink when those behind the Jacob Blake killing were not charged. They probably do not even know about it now the news cycle has moved.The same applies with Covid. If it did not dominate the media and we all just carried on people would feel very differently.If cancer deaths were reported day after day on the news people would demand something was done.If pollution deaths were reported day after day on the news people would demand something was done.People are so easily played.


Exactly, it's extremely easy to manipulate the masses from stances such as "no masks are required " early 2020 to parents believing kids should be muzzled all day in schools. Very few people have the courage to go against the majority once the flock of fools start moving towards their respective sheep pens- years ago you would be deemed insane going against the trend the earth wasn't flat and now we are expected to live like this with a virus that mainly kills those at the end of life so mild for the majority most dont know they have it. If people speak up they are shamed or "silenced" by MSM like those refusing to take a knee for someone who threatened to blow a baby out of a pregnant womans stomach supporting an anti capitalist movement with footballers earning millions per year leading the way.

By:
impossible123
When: 25 Feb 21 16:51
The same people against vaccines (I exclude those medically unable/exempt) are the same ones that complain about discrimination; a lack of opportunities; education (despite it's free); housing; enhanced Covid death rates; etc. But, these same people do not ask why? For instance, living in clusters; socialising within community only; slack in adopting Covid measures eg social distancing (in public); etc.

Other minorities eg the East and South East Asians, Turkish, Japanese, etc, have no issue with present vaccines. Why?
By:
frog1000
When: 25 Feb 21 16:53

Feb 25, 2021 -- 4:51PM, impossible123 wrote:


The same people against vaccines (I exclude those medically unable/exempt) are the same ones that complain about discrimination; a lack of opportunities; education (despite it's free); housing; enhanced Covid death rates; etc. But, these same people do not ask why? For instance, living in clusters; socialising within community only; slack in adopting Covid measures eg social distancing (in public); etc.Other minorities eg the East and South East Asians, Turkish, Japanese, etc, have no issue with present vaccines. Why?


Why do you care if someone else does or does not take a vaccine?

Surely if you take it and it works it does not matter what everyone else does?

By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 16:54
Ah sorry impossible, this is our fault were in this situation, gotcha Laugh
By:
wolf3011
When: 25 Feb 21 16:57

Feb 25, 2021 -- 4:51PM, impossible123 wrote:


The same people against vaccines (I exclude those medically unable/exempt) are the same ones that complain about discrimination; a lack of opportunities; education (despite it's free); housing; enhanced Covid death rates; etc. But, these same people do not ask why? For instance, living in clusters; socialising within community only; slack in adopting Covid measures eg social distancing (in public); etc.Other minorities eg the East and South East Asians, Turkish, Japanese, etc, have no issue with present vaccines. Why?


Utter rubbish, most people against what is effectively socially enforced vaccines are pro free will not banging the discrimination drum

By:
wolf3011
When: 25 Feb 21 17:05
If our health becomes the matter of the state where we lose control over our own bodies without restrictions being imposed, why are we stopping at vaccines? If not taking a vaccine is deemed to be " not doing your bit" why not enforce compulsory blood donation with cards as not giving blood will cost lives - where is the line in the sand drawn? Why shouldn't people give blood to save lives with the same social responsibility or bone marrow- are some deaths more socially acceptable than others? People with immune conditions die of flu so that should be next along with getting rid of car travel due to air pollution deaths - maybe we can draw up a list of things we should be doing  but dont make it too long as exercise is key to avoid putting strain on the NHS. Compulsory exercise watched by a big brother eye enroute soon enough for those people who dont want to take responsibility over their own health and want everyone else to do it for them like overgrown babies
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Feb 21 17:05
Those people who think the majority here are listening and obeying regardless to government soundbites and advice cannot be further to the truth. I'm guided by the actions of other governments in dealing successfully with Covid eg Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Japan, S Korea and even China.

The French, Germans and almost the entire EU do not matter - most of them are playing politics and not taken the seriousness of Covid eg competing to open up economies; dissing a vaccine (unqualified) to try and cover their incompetence in procurement, etc.

I hope these countries put egos and politics aside instead have the health and safety of their citizens as top priority, not self-political interest.
By:
impossible123
When: 25 Feb 21 17:10
Just stick to Covid vaccines and Covid. I'm 100% certain most here are able to make differentiations adequately and intelligently. Covid is no ordinary virus. It's deadly and indiscriminate.

And, health advice by distinguished, highly qualified and experienced health advisors is nothing to do with big-brother. They are not charlatans!
By:
Mexico
When: 25 Feb 21 17:12
Wolf

What restrictions have the UK government imposed on people who haven’t had a vaccine?

Nobody is forcing you to have a vaccine, don’t have it if you are scared.

The vaccine is free of charge in UK , all that is being considered is a system where those who have chosen to receive vaccine have evidence that they have received vaccine. Why would anybody want to prevent them from having truthful, secure evidence?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:14
If people have been scared into taking the vaccine then take it. Then stfu about it.
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 17:34
It's deadly and indiscriminate.

The average age covid death being higher than the average life expectancy would question the indiscriminate claim.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:35
And ditto the reverse. There are always consequences to all our actions. You may get a sore arm, or you may get told you can't enter a country for a holiday. Just accept that before hiding behind the couch squeaming about big brother and what's next mummy!
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 17:38
'hiding behind the couch squeaming'

coming from the people doing the exact same thing for the past year, and now insisting everyone inject themselves with an experimental vaccine, even though they have had theirs, so they can feel 'safe'.

You couldn't make up the hypocrisy, PP another leftie I assume.
By:
frog1000
When: 25 Feb 21 17:39

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:10PM, impossible123 wrote:


Just stick to Covid vaccines and Covid. I'm 100% certain most here are able to make differentiations adequately and intelligently. Covid is no ordinary virus. It's deadly and indiscriminate. And, health advice by distinguished, highly qualified and experienced health advisors is nothing to do with big-brother. They are not charlatans!


To start with we were told stick with:

'3 weeks to flatten the curve and protect the NHS'

Then we were told stick with:

'Its only a mask for 10 mins in a shop'

Then we were told stick with:

'Another lock down to protect the NHS whilst the vulnerable get vaccine'

Then we were told stick with:

'Kids only have to wear masks all day in school'

Then we are told stick with:

'We need longer lockdowns so we dont have to go back to lockdown.'

Then we were told stick with:

'Covid passports will only be for overseas travel'

You see the mission creep pattern here? Or have people really not noticed?

By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:43
If only this pattern had been predicted, then we could be wise when it emerged Cool
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:44

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:38PM, JetLoneStar wrote:


'hiding behind the couch squeaming'coming from the people doing the exact same thing for the past year, and now insisting everyone inject themselves with an experimental vaccine, even though they have had theirs, so they can feel 'safe'.You couldn't make up the hypocrisy, PP another leftie I assume.


What the hell has leftie got to do with it you lemon???


You come out with "experimental vaccine". Clearly you're a bit unsure about taking something. Shame 80 year old grannies have more bottle than some fellas in this country nowadays.

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:44
IT with the perfect "what's next mummy?" to prove my point there.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:45
(particularly when it's complete hogwash tooLaugh)
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 25 Feb 21 17:45
With the goal being what ? - total economy meltdown , and paying out billions of pounds to us to sit in our garden  ?

Your total control argument just makes no sense  - What is the endgame ? - control of a bankrupt , crippled nation ?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:48
He is right though Porky
You are a lefty
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 17:48
The vaccine uses experimental mRNA technology, therefore it is 'experimental'

Im about as scared of the vaccine as I am of covid btw, have already stated ill probably end up taking it if it means I can have some of my life back - that last sentence pretty much encapsulates the area of all this that I find 'scary'.

The lefty comment alluded to the correlation between left wing voters and their well known traits of hypocrisy and desire to control.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:49
JLS...........................you can stay mate.
Porky, get back in the kitchen Cool
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:49

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:


He is right though PorkyYou are a lefty


Occasionally. On some subjects, I undoubtedly am. I repeat though: what has that got to do with it you lemon?

By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:50
JLS just told you Porky
2 sugars
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:51
Aah, he's a whingeing cry-baby. Explains a lot.


Anyhoo, here's my prediction. 99% of everyone on here who says they won't take it, or are in tears at the thought of others taking it, will quietly take it. Though they'll never admit to it of course.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:56
Well that's covered all bases then Porky
I predict if any vaccine-head suffers any health repercussions they will not come on here and say so.
Easy this game.
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 17:56
Of course people will take it if the other option is becoming a social pariah, it's called coercion. That's the entire point of this thread silly billy Laugh
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 25 Feb 21 17:57
Have you got stocks in pfizer?
Sell, sell, sell
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 17:59
and most of the whinging I can see are from the lefties furious we wont give them the extra 'protection' they need to get out from behind the sofa and clean up the urine theyre standing in.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 17:59
Yep it is the whole point of the thread. Mummy I'm being coerced, they're making me do this mummy. No, I don't want to just get on with my life mum, I want to wail about it online and join my friends who all agree it's part of Operation Windows 99 or whatever it is.



Thank god most people don't engage with social media too much as right now 90% would be equally bemused/amused at the rantings of the small minority of bed-wetters.
By:
inner city sumo
When: 25 Feb 21 18:00
'ill probably end up taking it if it means I can have some of my life back'

You clearly don't have any belief in what you're saying then. No principles. What a hypocrite.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 18:03
Laugh
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 18:08
Why would I fall on my sword when in my opinion the war is already over. I have no fear that there is anything sinister in the vaccine, it's the government and its policies that concern me.

I look forward to the reactions when the economy crashes and the true extent of the damage is seen. Maybe that'll be the wakeup call the plebs need, far too late by then of course.

PP, make sure you have some more underwear for next winter and the new variants, hopefully mummy will help you clean up the messLaugh

Am I doing that right??
By:
wolf3011
When: 25 Feb 21 18:12

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:10PM, impossible123 wrote:


Just stick to Covid vaccines and Covid. I'm 100% certain most here are able to make differentiations adequately and intelligently. Covid is no ordinary virus. It's deadly and indiscriminate. And, health advice by distinguished, highly qualified and experienced health advisors is nothing to do with big-brother. They are not charlatans!


so deadly the vast majority have it without even knowing and an average age of death above natural life expectancy- scary

By:
frog1000
When: 25 Feb 21 18:13

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:59PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Yep it is the whole point of the thread. Mummy I'm being coerced, they're making me do this mummy. No, I don't want to just get on with my life mum, I want to wail about it online and join my friends who all agree it's part of Operation Windows 99 or whatever it is.Thank god most people don't engage with social media too much as right now 90% would be equally bemused/amused at the rantings of the small minority of bed-wetters.


Are you stuck in some kind of Oedipus complex?

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 25 Feb 21 18:14

Feb 25, 2021 -- 5:44PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


IT with the perfect "what's next mummy?" to prove my point there.


Swap IT for cuckoo and repeat.

By:
JetLoneStar
When: 25 Feb 21 18:15
Lmao, he seems a truly bizarre creature Laugh
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