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By:
A_T
When: 21 Jan 21 10:37
With Trump, who knows? He is so unpredictable that you can't place long term bets for/against him with any great confidence.

he could get the GOP nomination (unless he's convicted) but he won't be president again
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 11:03
With Trump, possible convictions for various allegations, many going back decades, are certainly a threat to any future prospect of 2024 success. I can understand the massive price drift as you don't know what is round the court corner or what may still to be revealed.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 15:26
I see that on the exchange, Mike Pence has moved to marginal favourite for the Republican nominee...

Mike Pence 7.4
Nicki Haley 8.0
Donald Trump 9.2
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 15:45
In an interview with Politico a senior Democratic Senator, Chris Coons from Biden’s home state of Delaware and close friend, said that the new President will run for re-election. He told Politico:

“He is planning to run again. He knows that we are at the middle of an absolute turning point, a pivot point in American history. And he’s up for the challenge.”

I think it's correct for the Presidents team to make clear he is there for both his terms, it strengthens his position. Folks need to be assured that he is not just a here today, gone tomorrow President.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 21 Jan 21 16:37
market isn't convinced polly
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 16:56
I think Pompeo is worth a punt if the basket of deplorables have not joined The Patriot Party
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 17:39
I don't. Pompeo was adamant, on record, as saying Trump won and the administration were in the process of preparing, post election, for the next four years.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 17:50
I am wondering if we are going to have a moneysavingexpert type moment when I look at the over round figure on the main marketGrin
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 17:54
Look its a long way to go. The GOP needs to decide if it is a political party or a cartoon. The Tea Party and basket of deplorables are casting such a figure that Congressmen and women are scared to criticise or vote against The traitor in fear not only of their careers but their lives and will no doubt break their oath!

Yes you would have thought someone like Nikki Haley would make a great centre ground candidate but would the white supremacist contingent of the GOP vote for her? I don't think so!

Too far out to have a punt for me in any case but some of you people ain't as dumb as you sound so I do listen like on election nightWink, thanks again!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 17:57
Now will The Senate convict Chump?

That is interesting. Not unless they uncover more damning evidence but I think it is there, just not been found or released yet!
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 18:51
Actually, whispering, the senate hearing could have a direct impact on the identity of the Republican nominee, depending on the outcome. You might have to be in one defined camp to be selected.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:13
I think it will depend on the deplorables and if the GOP want their party back they will have to unite behind one candidate to defeat them. I would have thought a middle aged white bloke would be favourite although for me he is scarier than Chump. Mike Ponce believes the God Squad clap trap and given power might enforce it. Chump was just a clown and entertaining he was not really dangerous except for ripping open Amrika's prejudices.

Haley I think would be a candidate to appeal to most Americans. I dare say the sitting President Harris will be the bogey woman for America's right wing. Ponce would take it back to tribal politics but the numbers are increasingly with the Dems. If the GOP are smart they go for Haley, she could win the title if she could get through the nomination process. Large parts of America wants to hate Harris.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:16
The other thing of course is if Chump is not in jail will he wreak his vengeance on the GOP in which case he hands the Election to the incumbent President Harris!
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 19:18
One area where the Republicans have been leaking votes badly is women voters and particularly suburban women voters. Haley could be a possible answer to that problem.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 21 Jan 21 19:23
nominating a democrat would also solve that problem
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:29
Not just that. The GOP is the hate party. They need a rebrand. She would appeal across the spectrum. There are plenty of blacks, Hispanics and Asians of every hue who have conservative tendencies. Plenty of white working class and middle class who are fed up of enriching the Liberal elite.

Pompeo or Ponce could attract the support of the deplorables. Pompeo has a better grasp of the populist playbook than Ponce who is an old school bible thumping type of politician.

I think these are the current three in the frame. I do not think any Chump has a chance of the GOP nomination.

I would put Ryan and Rubio on the Haley side. They need to sort it out between them who takes on the inbred hillbillies.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 21 Jan 21 19:31
GOP share of minority vote increased in 2020

they almost won, they don't need to chnge
By:
Giuseppe
When: 21 Jan 21 19:32
"inbred hillbillies"

classy
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:33
I think they do. The numbers are growing on the Dems side if it becomes tribal like I said before otherwise how did Biden win? Is he going to get big business to pay its fair shair of tax? Rein in Chinaa?
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 19:33
I have a couple of folks in mind, one a real long shot, not listed in some betting markets. I will wait till I get my money down then maybe we should try and identify a long list of possible candidates?
By:
Hank Hill
When: 21 Jan 21 19:33
Don't be fooled whispering, Pompeo is just as much an evangelical as Pence. Shame the Patriot party won't happen - seeing them rip up the GOP would be amusing.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:34
"inbred hillbillies"

classy



but accurate!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:35
oh as I said Pompeo knows how to play the game. He is even scarier than Ponce imho!
By:
Giuseppe
When: 21 Jan 21 19:37
i hope you're not white mate, because if you are that's kind of f***** up calling them that
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 21 Jan 21 19:41
what inbred hillbillies?

Have you been to Amrika?

Laugh

I'm sorry if I have touched a nerve or brought back terrible childhood memories. If it helps I went to a Catholic boarding school!
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jan 21 20:00
Main market now at 100.0% Grin
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Jan 21 12:25
98.8%
By:
Escapee
When: 22 Jan 21 13:13
from the rules: Additional candidates may be added to this market on request.

98.8 is not unexpected
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 13:46
It's the lay market you need to watch

Any unnamed is currently 30% chance to get market to 100%
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Jan 21 13:56

Jan 22, 2021 -- 1:13PM, Escapee wrote:


from the rules: Additional candidates may be added to this market on request.98.8 is not unexpected


Yes, I know escapee. This is where the moneysaving expert thread, referred to earlier, went nuts. They didn't understand that folks could be added/drop out.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 14:10
Money-saving was because pink lay book was at over 100%

They didn't realise non runners would be removed leaving them with
a nasty red book





Series 2 or 3 of celeb big brother was a good one too
as betfair quoted about 24 runners, when some trusted insider
posted the actual runners you could back them giving some
horrendous reds on non runners that were removed on opening night as the
trusted insider proved their worth yet again.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 14:14
There was also a cricket one where there was an
all in play or not market, one of the listed
had said he was not playing, but by removing his
odds, backing all others gave a profit.

Somebody argued he should be removed and bets voided on him

I guess he was the layer, lol...
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Jan 21 14:22
Haley would not be of interest to me at less than 150 or so.

There are about 50M who will only vote for Trump, or someone Trump endorses (which is unlikely to be her). That number may drop, but will still be at least 30M in 4 years I would think.

The only way she could be elected would be if Republicans were banned from voting and Democrats were only allowed to vote for a Republican.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Jan 21 14:25
Tobe, any strong contenders in your opinion for the Republican nominee?
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Jan 21 14:41
Trump I suppose!

Hard to see him not running. I think Pompeo the most likely if Trump stands aside for whatever reason.

Paul Ryan would be the dream candidate for the Republican leadership. I'm sure he will trade below 30 at some point, but hard to see how someone like that could win the nomination.

I think he would easily defeat Biden or Harris if it was one v one, but unlikely if Trump is a 3rd party candidate.
By:
Escapee
When: 22 Jan 21 14:54
Anyone know any strategies for playing a 4 year market?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 14:55
Lay them at their lowest point, make millions...
By:
A_T
When: 22 Jan 21 14:56
will be almost impossible for a non-MAGA candidate to win the GOP nomination - denial of the legitimacy of Biden's win will be a key campaign theme in the caucuses
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 15:01
2 years time a sensible Conservative could have built
a decent campaign that sees them gain traction to wipe trump.

The better Biden does the easier it is to beat trump
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Jan 21 15:03
The easier it is for a solid Conservative to beat trump.


Get it back onto policy....
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