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By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Nov 21 18:00
Biden dispatched another large trump
in front of camilla!
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Nov 21 19:18
Forget aoc, no chance! The tide has turned against her and her evils, America has seen through the squad, with the less-evil dems distancing themselves from her, preferring to be known as `normal` dems. She`s finnnnnnnish.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 23:54
Trump to become President before 2025

https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/trump-to-become-president-before-2025
.

£1762 matched and down to 28.0 now. Was that your money tim?
By:
Corky
When: 15 Nov 21 00:41
Joe Rogan. MAGA. LETS GO JOE. Has a ring to it
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Nov 21 00:44
smarkets are charlatans, bookies seeding their own interface, under the guise of being `an exchange`. After reading their Ts and Cs, no winning punter would ever go near them.
Your constant advertising of them is in direct contravention of bf`s rules; you`re lucky us good and right thinking people aren`t the type to go running to the mods, you`d be banned instantly.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 09:03
Personally I have found them very fair.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 09:17
I mean, look at the market in question. They have clearly identified a demand for it and clearly, by the amount staked already, have proved to be correct. I guess it must be Timbers possibly?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 15 Nov 21 14:22
no it's mine
By:
Corky
When: 15 Nov 21 15:10
America crazy enough to elect any narcissist. Should have Oprah, Clooney and Meghan Markle in the betting. Harry could go full woke and transition to become first lady
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Nov 21 16:34
Here`s the relevant rules from their Ts and Cs. (I`ve discussed this on another forum; at the bottom there`s my summary, which I posted there, can`t be bothered to write a different one)

Clearly Erroneous Bets Policy
1. Erroneous bets
Smarkets may consider bets to be clearly erroneous in cases of obvious and significant input error, whether with stake, price or identification of a contract, and where best price execution cannot account for the error and bring the bet within the defined boundaries of the ‘fair price’ as described below. Please note that the price differences noted below are in absolute difference in percentage price unless stated otherwise. For example a bet matched at odds of 50% (2.0 in decimal format) is considered 10% different to the price of 40% (2.5 in decimal odds).

3. Outlier transactions
Outlier transactions are defined as bets matched at a price that exceeds +-20% of the determined fair market price at the time the bet was matched.

4. Defining fair market price
When a complaint is filed, Smarkets will use any available resources, including but not limited to, recent trades on the Smarkets exchange and prices available elsewhere at the time, to determine the fair market price at the time the bet was matched. If the erroneous bet was matched at a price of +-15% of the fair market price at the time, Smarkets reserves the right to void the bet.

In addition to recent execution prices and prices available on other platforms at the time the bet was matched, Smarkets may also consider a number of additional factors when deciding whether a bet is clearly erroneous.

These include, but are not limited to, system malfunction, the volatility of the contract, new information becoming available in the public domain that may significantly alter the price (such as team news for a football match), whether the result of the bet had been unconditionally decided before a complaint was raised, whether betting on the market was recently halted and resumed, the start price of the selection and if the complainant had taken any steps to limit their exposure to the erroneous bet.

For example if the price of a contract is particularly volatile at the time a bet was matched, due to new information becoming public or otherwise, it is less likely bets will be voided under this policy as the fair price would be more difficult to determine objectively.

In cases where Smarkets cannot provide a reasonable determination of the fair price of the contract, no bets will be voided.

5. Reviewing bets on Smarkets’ own motion
Smarkets may also conduct reviews of bets on their own initiative. In normal office hours, and excluding the case of outlier transactions, users will be alerted to the investigation and informed of a decision within 120 minutes of the bets being matched.

Where the erroneous bet occurs outside normal office hours, a decision will be conveyed by 18:00 GMT on the next business day, defined as Monday to Friday and excluding national holidays in the UK.





So, any whinging loser (Messrs G`n`T?) who says `I made a mistake, pressed the wrong button! Yes, I was happy with it until the market went against me, but now that I`ve lost, I`ll scweam and scweam until you bail me out!` can have the bet cancelled, even after the event! As for this whole `fair price` tosh, well, if bf applied such stupidity, I`d never win a penny! Worse, smarkets seed the markets, so many `erroneous` and `unfair` prices cancelled will be them saving themselves money, for their own mistakes!

And to compound it all, you could have a decent winner Friday evening, whisk the mistress off for a nice celebratory weekend in New York to spend all your winnings, get back Tuesday evening, just in time to receive an email telling you the winning bet was now, and only now, four days later, being void!


As I said; charlatans, steer well clear
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Nov 21 16:59
Corky Joined: 16 Jan 06
Replies: 380515 Nov 21 15:10 
America crazy enough to elect any narcissist. Should have Oprah, Clooney and Meghan Markle in the betting. Harry could go full woke and transition to become first lady

Oprah`s there already. Indeed, I seem to remember trading her for 2020, as she`d be a cert for the dem nom should she ever choose to get involved. Clooney was listed last time, too
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 17:32
I have been with Smarkets for some years. I have had one or two disputes with them which were settled amicably and fairly. As I only bet on politics it would be unfair of me to guesstimate of any issues that any folks have had outwith that topic. Their customer service is truly excellent.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 17:48

Nov 15, 2021 -- 4:59PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Corky Joined: 16 Jan 06Replies: 380515 Nov 21 15:10

By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 17:53
Oprah - 320.0 betfair exchange
Clooney- 200.0 Betfred and ****
Meghan- 260.0 Betfair exchange
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 17:54
Just discovered they don't like you mentioning the company that you sometimes need a poultice to mend.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 21 17:58
Purple? Boilers?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 21 18:00
The second one.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Nov 21 19:11
Your position must be below desperate PP Shocked
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Nov 21 19:39
People betting on Trump to be president before 2025 likely just don't understand the rules.

Probably think:

There's an election in 2024. Trump will win. So Trump will be president before 2025.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 21 19:42
Indeed.

There was evidence of that on other thread.

Long time to wait for 4% return.
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Nov 21 19:44
I guess so, with inflation etc
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 21 19:44
But then again there were
Plenty of mugs backing him
after he lost last electiin
..

And 28% think he's back in the
Whitehouse by Jan 22!

Lol
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Nov 21 21:28
re smarkets, I don't agree with that clause, but it is more than likely an anti money laundering/anti hacker rule.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 06:35
https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/trump-to-become-president-before-2025
.

£2463 matched now.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 08:30
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mnuchin-pompeo-trump-25th-amendment-1257958/
.
Mnuchin and Pompeo Discussed a Plan to Oust Trump from Office on Jan. 6: Report
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 08:50
Ryan Struyk
@ryanstruyk
· 15h
Do you believe Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square or only won it due to voter fraud via Monmouth poll:

Democrats:
97% fair and square
2% voter fraud

Republicans:
22% fair and square
73% voter fraud
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 08:52
Those figures may suggest a great deal of support among GOP members for Trumps fraud claims but the 22% who say Biden won fair and square are the ones Trump should be very worried about.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 08:55
Wyoming GOP votes to stop recognizing Cheney as a Republican

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-liz-cheney-wyoming-casper-1966d793df2baa85e0fecad4026b0e99
.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 16 Nov 21 14:45
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_in_Cambodia
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 14:50
I see my scammer troll has arrived Sad
By:
Giuseppe
When: 16 Nov 21 14:58
sorry thought this was the music thread
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Nov 21 15:41
politicspunter 16 Nov 21 06:35 
https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/trump-to-become-president-before-2025
£2463 matched now.

Another lie from s(cam)markets, deliberately aimed at fooling the unsophisticated mugs, a lie that you`ve fallen for! On bf, a £2 bet is counted as £4 matched, regardless of price. The scammarkets, in a deceptive attempt at seeming to be matching similar amounts as bf do, instead count £2 matched at 1.000 as £2,000. Meaning, with £2400 `matched`, that could be one bet of £2.40 at 1,000! In this case,(without me wanting to go near the scamsters website to check), it seems from what I`ve read on here that, with The Don being matched at 50-odd, that means about £50 actually backed, giving a true matched figure of £100;

Charlatans.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 15:43
No one suggested they were trying to copy anyone.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Nov 21 15:48
You`re forever posting their lying numbers as part of your advertising campaign, trying to big up the scamsters. If that £2,400 was measured in the bf way, you wouldn`t have posted that there had been a fiver matched. You`re either unaware of their lying ways, or you`re shilling for them. Either way, not a good look.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 15:54
No one is claiming they have an identical system as Betfair. As I have been a member of Smarkets for a few years now, I think it's fair to say I am aware of the operation of their product.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Nov 21 16:09
Not sure I believe that, but even given the benefit of the doubt, why post a matched figure that could amount to one single bet of £2.47p?
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 16:20
I don't know how many times I need to say the same thing. No one is claiming Smarkets system is identical to Betfair.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Nov 21 16:30
You`ve spent over a year and hundreds of looks at my winning 2020 bets, trying to figure out how I won, and still can`t see it, so I have no faith in your ability to understand anything, let alone scamarkets matching procedures. Indeed, only last week, you couldn`t work out how I laid Youngkin and backed macauliffe and won!
If we give you the benefit of the (huge!) doubt, then why post about a potential bet of £2.47? Are you paid to spread FAKE NEWS? Is bf aware of your blatant breaking of their rules?
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Nov 21 16:37
We?
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Nov 21 16:45
Prime wriggling! Avoid the charge, deflect, try to pull a clinton `It depends on what the meaning of the word `is`, is` 
Just for fun, though, let`s answer; the `we`, is those of us on here your FAKE claims are aimed at fooling.
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