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By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 21:50
poll is obviously people not understanding the question or trolling.  Maybe if it was 2022, you could get that answer.
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Nov 21 21:57
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/87gqotkd1s/econTabReport.pdf
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Looks genuine enough to me.
By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 22:19
I didn't say the poll wasn't genuine.  I said that there is no chance that 28% think that.
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Nov 21 22:21
Why not?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Nov 21 22:22
I support Trump and think the moon landings were faked
By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 22:31
imo it is just as likely that someone doesn't understand the question as they believe something that has utterly no path to realisation.  And people do troll polls that ask these kinds of questions.
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Nov 21 22:38
The typical Trump voter is white, 30-50 and poorly educated. It tends to be if you suggest anything to them that may see Trump in a favourable light, they just go in automatic mode and say yes to everything. They probably genuinely believe the drivel he spouts, no matter how many times it is proven to be guff. The results of this poll are similar to the one conducted in October.
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Nov 21 22:41
Currently, Trump is actually harming the chances of any other prospective candidate by suggesting he may run. No serious financial support is going to get behind anyone else for now as it may turn out Trump runs after all.
By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 22:55
30-50 and poorly educated

it is just as likely that someone doesn't understand the question
By:
politicspunter
When: 13 Nov 21 23:01
A majority of Trump diehards won't even care about the question details. They will just say yes anyway. They might believe it because the suggestion in the question has been put to them so if there is any inkling at all of it happening, they say it will.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Nov 21 23:09
quite a few poorly educated people posting on this thread
By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 23:16
^^Yes, as I said, they don't understand the question, not that the poll doesn't reflect their answer.
By:
dave1357
When: 13 Nov 21 23:17
if a follow up question asked them to say how he would be reinstated, it would be clear that they didn't know.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 13 Nov 21 23:20
I think you`ll find they`re all the one chap; multiple usernames, laughing at his own jokes, agreeing with himself, in lockstep on EVERY issue, same two-year-long repetition of the same inane questions, and the personality of a facetious jerk.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 13 Nov 21 23:22
would be genuinely hilarious if that was really happening
By:
A_T
When: 14 Nov 21 08:07
the 28% of GOP voters roughly equates to the 11% of Americans that believe the moon-landings were faked - these will largely be the same people (Timber/timbuctooth types).

I don't doubt the 28% "believe" that Trump will be back in office this year but they don't have the critical thinking skills to be able to work out how that might happen - their "evidence" is of the "watch this video" type. It's like Trump's big lie - they can't explain how it might have happened they just believe it.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 09:48
https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2021/11/13/iowa-poll-trump-leads-biden-possible-2024-presidential-matchup/6385995001/
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Strong poll in Iowa for Trump.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 11:41
Trump to become President before 2025

https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/trump-to-become-president-before-2025
.

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By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 13:19
USA, Washington Post/ABC News poll:

House of Representatives election

Republican Party (Conservative): 56%
Democratic Party (Liberal): 45%

Fieldwork: 7-10 November 2021
Sample size: 882
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Nov 21 13:30
Can see smarkets getting some stick when the penny drops.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 13:34
Yep, they could be wiped out by bets from timber, timbuctooth and the like.
By:
edy
When: 14 Nov 21 13:41
Bit surprised Timber doesn't sweep up all the high odds on Trump. Not too long ago he thought 10 was splendid odds for it, and that was before the decertification guaranteeing results of Arizona's full audit had been released.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 16:28
2024 National Republican Primary Poll:

Trump 44%
DeSantis 21%
Haley 5%
Pence 4%
Carlson 3%
Rubio 3%
Youngkin 1%

@YouGovAmerica
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@YahooNews
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 16:28
2024 National Democratic Primary Poll:

Biden 25%
Harris 14%
Sanders 12%
Warren 8%
Ocasio-Cortez 8%
Buttigieg 7%

@YouGovAmerica
/
@YahooNews
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 16:32
2024 National General Election Poll:

Joe Biden 43% (+4)
Donald Trump 39%

@YouGovAmerica
/
@YahooNews
By:
A_T
When: 14 Nov 21 16:46
any figures for Biden vs a non-Trump GOP candidate?
By:
A_T
When: 14 Nov 21 16:50
by that I mean a candidate other then Donald Trump
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 16:51
No, afraid not, from this you gov poll anyway.
By:
tobermory
When: 14 Nov 21 16:52
Rest assured, Trump is likely the only Republican that could lose to Biden
By:
A_T
When: 14 Nov 21 17:50
a lot can happen in 3 years - and it will largely depend on the economic situation at the time - but yes Trump is the candidate least likely to beat Biden
By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Nov 21 17:53
12% of democrats would vote for 83 year old Bernie Sanders in 2024
By:
tobermory
When: 14 Nov 21 17:54
On the other hand, Biden and Harris could both lose to Trump.

Identifying a Democrat that could run instead of those 2 is likely the best way to make money on this, as surely they will be looking for one the way it's going.

But Bernie and Warren have had their shot and Buttigeg is just as awful as Harris.
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 17:55
I think it's also reasonable to rule out anyone from the Trump family, so out go Donald Junior, Eric and Ivanka. There are also plenty of no hopers too numerous to mention.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Nov 21 17:56
Ocasio Cortez is value surely
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 17:57

Nov 14, 2021 -- 5:54PM, tobermory wrote:


On the other hand, Biden and Harris could both lose to Trump.Identifying a Democrat that could run instead of those 2 is likely the best way to make money on this, as surely they will be looking for one the way it's going.But Bernie and Warren have had their shot and Buttigeg is just as awful as Harris.


Yes, this is a good point. It is very difficult at the moment to see any really strong contenders apart from Biden, Harris and Buttigieg.

By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Nov 21 17:58
Warren could easily run again in my opinion

in fact I think almost certainly one of Sanders / Warren / AOC will run
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 14 Nov 21 17:59
Biden is just finessing trump,
or maybe other way round.

Both a liability at the mo.

Dems want trump, reps want Biden.


Funny old world, with little
sign, yet of anybody breaking
the jam
By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Nov 21 17:59
if the left of teh party unites around a single candidate one of those three could easily beat Harris or Biden

the establishment sort of has to back harris if she runs and Joe doesn't, despite tehfcat she isn't a partucularyl good candidate
By:
politicspunter
When: 14 Nov 21 17:59
If Dwayne Johnson put his name up as a Democrat possible, everything could change.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 14 Nov 21 18:00
would Harris beat Warren in a primary? or even AOC?
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