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2024 USA Presidential Election
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You know, if Trump definitely wasn't running, those Noem and Pompeo bets start to look real value.
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Wonder how low Trump can go in the next president market without having announced he's running.
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Will it matter? Trumpers will still back him, running or not
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He does appear to have drifted a smidge in the nominee market.
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Yet shortened in the presidential market.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/trump-running-president-2024-election/620502/
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PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA · 58m 2024 National Republican Primary Poll: Trump 47% DeSantis 10% Pence 9% Haley 6% Cruz 4% T. Scott 3% Pompeo 1% Rubio 1% @Harvard - @HarrisPoll ~ RV ~ 10/26-10/28 |
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2024 National Republican Primary Poll, Without Trump:
Pence 23% DeSantis 21% Cruz 12% Haley 9% T. Scott 5% Rubio 4% Pompeo 3% @Harvard - @HarrisPoll ~ RV ~ 10/26-10/28 |
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Trump/JFK Jnr
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Asked betfair to add him, well
you never know... Maybe call him the late JFK Jnr So the numpties don't squeal for their monets back when they lose, again. |
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2024 Wisconsin General Election Poll:
Joe Biden 45% (+4) Donald Trump 41% @MULawPoll ~ 805 RV ~ 10/26-10/31 An interesting battleground state poll. Even though Biden approval ratings are currently abysmal, he leads Trump by 3 points more than he won by in 2020. |
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Wisconsin is the type of battleground state Trump would have to win.
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Joe was leading Trump by 10pts there in the 'A list' polls last time. So Trump on course for a 3pt win unless they have sorted out their methodology.
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Slightly dubious reasoning
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Trump won't even be alive in 2024,a miracle he's alive now..
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Interesting to see what effect (if any) that Virginia win does for Trump running and the GOP's attitude towards him.
Does it firstly make Trump think, 'I've got a great chance of winning this time around, the way things are going' and therefore his chances of running are increased. Or because Youngkin distanced himself from Trump somewhat and pulled over a lot of those independents does it make the GOP think, 'Actually we'd have an even better shot without Trump'. Not that it's up to them if Trump runs or not, but would it motivate some regular GOP guys to challenge Trump if he did run. Or does it actually have no impact on whether he runs or not. I personally think the middle - the GOP will think quite seriously they have a good chance to win without Trump at the helm (which they do at this moment in time). Of course 3 years is a long time away, but the way things are going with the DEMs.... All Trump is going to do is rile up the opposition and force a serious vote against him (again). I think any GOP candidate less hardline than Trump wouldn't actually lose the Trump base, as we all know most votes are anti the opposition mostly (and it's all about those middle of the road independents). |
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Youngkin was a very good candidate who ran an excellent Trump free campaign that focused on local issues such as tax and education. He was helped by Bidens abysmal approval ratings but he deserved his win in a very tough heat. Why bring Trump in to the equation at all? It would only cause the same old issues to reappear.
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No trump... No Biden?
Reps surely want to take on biden So trump hanging around and not then standing having got biden to commit is likely perfect strategy |
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Yes, but doubt Trump will be putting what is right for the GOP first at all.
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Indeed
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Yes, it will be interesting to see where the parties go from Virginia.
Youngkin did not invoke Trump at all, but did not criticize him either. You can sustain that all the way up to when Trump enters the race, when it then becomes problematic. However, if Youngkin type politics continues and leads to a big success in 2022 perhaps Trumpism will start to fade. The Democrats ran a stupid campaign, but is seems it is the only one they know how to do. Constantly ranting about Trump, saying Youngkin was another Trump.... And of course Biden's poll ratings are a direct result of Biden's policies, so it is hard to see why they will improve. Some people are comparing it to Bill Clinton's first term, where he was hugely unpopular halfway through. Clinton turned it around mainly by dumping all the left wing policies. That is much less of an option here as Biden has far less power and seemingly not really in charge anyhow . These Democrats demonize their opponents and anyone that didn't vote for them, and if they lose they just double down on it. Their main tactic in 2020 - mass registration of unregistered voters (after filtering out the Trump supporters) - can't really bring in much new votes, and they will lose millions to people pissed off with nutty education policies etc |
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Tobermory, I think what you mean is, like in Georgia, ensuring that folks that have a democratic and legal right to vote are on the electoral register (despite being removed previously because they were black).
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who do you think is really in charge tobes?
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No.
They had a list of unregistered voters. They cross referenced the names on the list with social media posts, put a line through any names that seemed pro Trump, and sent out registration forms to everyone else. This brought millions of potential Biden voters into the race, many of whom may well not have bothered registering otherwise. It cost a fortune to do and was funded for by Zuckerberg et al As for 'removing people from the register because they were black' what evidence is there of this? |
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What "names" would be considered pro Trump ?
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who do you think is really in charge tobes?
Ron Klain 'the shadow president'. Klain is a behind the scenes guy and will never run himself. When Joe says '"they told me I couldn't...." 'they' are people that Klain has delegated the task of telling Joe what to do. |
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eg, they find that John Doe of Michigan is unregistered. They check the internet and find that John has a MAGA hat as an avatar. John does not get sent a voter registration form.
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yeah voter registration by partisan bodies is a bit unseemly
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what's next taxis and minibuses on polling day, restricted to certain areas, and followed with a free gift?
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More racism^^^, with mockery thrown in!
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I suppose if you say your favourite singer is Barry White, you could easily end up in the wrong list.
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i am wearing a MAGA hat on my facebook profile pic and i'm not even american
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Why are you not wearing a PTGBIFOB hat?
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what is that?
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I used to have a blue lega hat
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Put The Great Back In Front Of Britain, d'uh!
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i would be in favour of changing the name from "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" to "the Kingdom of Great Britain"
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