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By:
tobermory
When: 16 Oct 21 20:56
Pompeo on 1% now don't matter.

If he is endorsed by Trump that could become 25-30% overnight, which likely would put him on top.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 20:56
Yeah it's just worth thinking outside of the box a little if taking an interest in such a market such a long way out.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Oct 21 20:57

Oct 16, 2021 -- 8:56PM, tobermory wrote:


Pompeo on 1% now don't matter.If he is endorsed by Trump that could become 25-30% overnight, which likely would put him on top.


Of course, that is certainly possible, but right now it's a real long shot.

By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 20:58
Have to agree on tobermory on this one. Pretty irrelevant polling.

Is he likely to be the nominee? No, of course not - simple numbers game. But with my view on Trump, and looking at Pompeo (his actions since the summer in Ohio etc, his relationship with Trump, and his personality) I think he's an interesting runner. Can't see many others I'd put in that bracket. Noem perhaps.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 20:58
Iowa not Ohio.
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Oct 21 21:04
My take is that Trump will have the nomination himself.

If he doesn't then he may not endorse anyone at all. But if he does do that then Pompeo is a credible as anyone else.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 21:07
Could well be. Think there's a twist with Trump at some point in the next 3 years though - it's too long a time in this day and age. He may well not endorse anyone - doubt he'd care, but even without endorsing someone he may take a big dislike to others if he didn't run (and his positive relationships would be clear enough).
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Oct 21 21:12
If a candidate is endorsed by Trump, will that not simply make him/her a puppet, forever at the bidding of Trump?
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Oct 21 21:15
I still think Paul Ryan is the best value.

He is the guy the traditional Republican donors would like to throw everything behind. But they won't engage in a futile contest with Trump.

However in a scenario where Trump does not run, and does not clearly endorse anyone else, you could have a crowded field of would be Trumpers, all getting in each other's way. DeSantis, Pompeo and Noem are all fairly well aligned with Trump, but none of them are Trump, who I think has a somewhat unique appeal. Ryan could beat them all I think, rather like Biden beat Sanders and Warren, who were both seemingly more popular but perhaps took support from each other and enabled Joe to come through the middle.

In an alternative world where Trump dropped dead in 2014, Hilary is early in her 2nd term and Paul Ryan is currently favourite for this.
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Oct 21 21:17
Does anyone give Rand Paul an outside shot?
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Oct 21 21:20
Unlikely, but no harm backing at 500+ I suppose.

He has gained popularity with his battles against Fauci.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 21:22
Sounds a logical call on Paul Ryan. Worth keeping an open mind.
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Oct 21 21:24
Ryan is 'retired' but why still make political speeches, like this a couple of months back...


“So once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads, and here’s the reality that we have to face. If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality or of second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere. Voters looking for Republican leaders want to see independence and mettle. They will not be impressed by the sight of yes-men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago.”
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Oct 21 21:29
There are twelve GOP candidates who regularly get polled (not including Trump).

Tucker Carlson-no chance
Josh Hawley-no chance
Tim Scott-no chance
Don Trump junior- no chance

Larry Hogan- Surprised he is polling so badly
Mitt Romney- He is adamant he will not run.

Mike Pompeo- I don't rate his chances but others clearly do.
Marco Rubio- Outside chance, can't be ruled out.
Nicki Haley- I could see her winning, decent chance.
Ted Cruz- Had many chances but hasn't made it count previously.
Mike Pence- I like him, others don't.
Ron De Santis- Strong contender, good chance.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 16 Oct 21 21:33
I don't really fancy Pence. De Santis is the obvious strong contender - ticks all the boxes if Trump doesn't run, but Tobermory's thoughts about a few Trumpsters going head to head may ring true. Agree on the no chance contenders.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Oct 21 23:30
Forget Ryan. Promised to bring a bill to end obamacare, didn`t do it, despised by The Don`s fans, no chance.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Oct 21 06:04
Timbuctooth falling into the trap again of assuming that voters will follow Trump regardless.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Oct 21 06:45
POL4 Do you believe Donald Trump should play a major role in the Republican party, a
minor role in the Republican party, or should he no longer play a role in the
Republican Party?
Play a major role in the Republican party 619 31%
Play a minor role in the Republican party 235 12%
No longer play a role in the Republican party 937 47%
Don’t know / No opinion 208 10%
POL5 Do you believe Donald Trump should run for president in the 2024 election?
Yes, definitely 495 25%
Yes, probably 195 10%
No, probably not 175 9%
No, definitely not 1009 50%
Don’t know / No opinion 126 6%

This is by Morning Consult, GOP voters, October 8-11th.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Oct 21 06:50
Sorry, that should be all voters, not GOP only.
By:
politicspunter
When: 18 Oct 21 17:46
https://smarkets.com/event/42185561/politics/us/donald-trump/trump-to-run-for-president-in-2024
.

This is an interesting Trump market where you will be paid out early if he formally goes through the process of making a run.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 18 Oct 21 19:09
Kam Harris on twitter...

Virginia has an important election coming up on November 2, and we need all hands on deck to remind voters what’s at stake.

Sign up to make calls to voters today:
By:
politicspunter
When: 18 Oct 21 19:18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Virginia_gubernatorial_election
.

This is the one. Not much in it. Here is the betting link...

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.187090973
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By:
politicspunter
When: 18 Oct 21 20:11
There is an incredibly small number of undecided voters in that Virginia event. Looks close to toss up stuff with whoever can get their vote out better likely to win.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Oct 21 18:13
https://twitter.com/BBCJonSopel/status/1450481570285072385/photo/1
.

If Trump is intending to run for President again, disgusting posts such as this are guaranteed to be wheeled out. Why would he possibly alienate aspiring black voters and traditional Republicans?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Oct 21 18:44
FBI raids Washington home linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.

WASHINGTON, Oct 19 (Reuters) - FBI agents on Tuesday raided a Washington mansion linked to Russian Oleg Deripaska, a metals billionaire with ties to the Kremlin and to Paul Manafort, former U.S. President Donald Trump's one-time 2016 campaign chairman.

An FBI agent stood outside the house in one of Washington's wealthiest neighborhoods, with yellow "CRIME SCENE DO NOT ENTER" tape across the front of the mansion, while members of the FBI's Evidence Response Team carried boxes out of the property.


Friend of Georgie Osborne too, iirc
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 20 Oct 21 13:45
Shameful comments from Trump. Expect nothing less.

If he ran again, and lost, he really would go down as one of the biggest chumps/losers. He knows that too, so maybe that possibility will be too much.
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 13:51
He has probably achieved that dubious accolade already. Laugh
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 20 Oct 21 13:53
Yes, but not in his own mind. Losing twice to Biden (or any Dem) would confirm it inside his own wee brain.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 20 Oct 21 15:56
Karl A Racine


BREAKING: I just added Mark Zuckerberg as a defendant in my lawsuit against Facebook.

Our continuing investigation revealed that he was personally involved in decisions related to Cambridge Analytica and Facebook’s failure to protect user data.
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 16:13
Some really dreadful approval ratings for Biden. He is going to have to improve on them considerably if he wishes to win in 2024.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 20 Oct 21 17:01
Some really dreadful approval ratings for Biden.


Imagine my shock, I mean what has his Administration done so badly apart from the Border crisis, Covid crisis, Afghanistan withdrawal crisis, inflation crisis, the Kamala crisis, Bidens obvious cognitive crisis... Biden and his mob better hope the teleprompter doesn't break mid read, or he won't be able to say anything at all. But other than that I thought his numbers would by sky high being the most transparent Administration in history, and the most popular President ever.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 20 Oct 21 17:03
what was the kamala crisis?
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 17:04
It just shows how poor a candidate Trump was.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 20 Oct 21 17:19
Poor old PP, Biden has screwed up everything he has touched, but it has to be spun to Trump!! Who'd have guessed....


Giuseppe20 Oct 21 16:03
what was the kamala crisis?


Her being part of the Administration is the main crisis, her handling down at the border, her non stop disappearing is getting slated by many, oh and that lovely video last week with the children sent out to show how great she was - only to find out they were Actors!!
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 17:24
No doubt about it, in the polls the GOP are closing the gap.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Oct 21 17:30
I heard 4/5ths of Republicans want Chump to stand again....good! If he is not in jail that is!

Dems will have to fins a candidate that is not Harris then they will easily win again and we can all make some more easy money off the basket of deplorables!
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 17:33
Obviously, serious political punters such as myself are desperate for Trump to stand again. His presence probably increases the betting turnover by a factor of two minimum.
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 17:35
The problem Trump has is that is there a hard core (roughly 15%) of GOP voters who will not vote for him under any circumstances according to multiple opinion polls from various companies.
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Oct 21 17:37
These are probably traditional GOP supporters who would support the likes of John McCain, Mitt Romney or George Bush Jnr.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 20 Oct 21 17:40
when you say traditional do you mean they live in Scotland, are ex-khmer rouge and vote for the SNP?
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