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DeSantis is the man
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Trump moves up to 2nd favourite (7.0) in outright betting for 2024 Presidential election in front of Harris (7.4).
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won't be long before he's favourite
hopefully the GOP will remove term limits at some point between now and 2024 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
. Some steady polls for Trump for 2024 Republican nominee and a pretty good one for Pence in voting without Trump although De Santis still clear favourite in that category. |
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Comedy Gold from PP regarding Trump on here! Tell all: "Lay at the highest price", but no, no, no, when the price goes south "I backed him for a profit"
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New Democratic Primary poll has Kamala Harris on 31%, 22% clear of a host of others led by Pete Buttigieg. It's difficult to see why you won't win money simply by dutching Biden and Harris for the nomination. There simply doesn't look to be any other serious candidates in with a chance. Black voters won't vote for Buttigieg, AOC is too far left, no one else really in the shake up at the moment.
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The slack or value in the market does appear to be on the democrat side. The winning party market is 1.78Dems Vs 2.44Repubs, but in the presidential market the republican runners actually have more of the book % than the democrat runners. So either the democrat runners are value, there's a substantial chance the democrat nominee isn't in the market, or the winning party market is wrong.
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Blank, Do you feel recent events in Afghanistan have increased or decreased the chances of Trump running?
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I think it has increased because he has more chance of beating the democrat nominee now.
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Yes, could be. However, do you think that in 2024 the Afghanistan situation is likely to change any voters minds ? Three years will be a long way back.
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Trump falsely claims it's "illegal for me to say" whether he's running for president in 2024
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/18/trump-falsely-claims-its-illegal-for-me-to-say-whether-hes-running-for-president-in-2024_partner/ . This article does suggest why Trump refuses to say whether he will run. |
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Probably not but I don't think it's just that single issue, it's the fact that it has shown there are dents in Biden's armour and there might be some more mistakes over the next few years.
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That is certain, no doubt about it.
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Money piling on Trump today for 2024 Presidential winner. Could overtake Biden as favourite if trend continues !
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is this Trump fans betting on what they want to happen rather than what is probable?
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Trump certainly has all the momentum in the betting market. Folks probably reckoning he has at least a 50/50 shot v Harris and now only a slight underdog v Biden?
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Kamala Harris price for President outright drifting badly which seems strange. If Biden were to be replaced before 2024, surely she would be an automatic choice?
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Who in their right mind would want her. She just seems to think that by putting on a fake laugh at pretty much anything then it will either make people like her, or the issue will disappear - but it does the exact opposite. She seems to have been missing for months, nobody knows her job or what she thinks as she has just been hiding away. Her handling of the border crisis is nothing short of negligent, and I wonder if she has even managed to go there yet. Shocking woman.
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she appeals to the asian demographic (6%), african americans (12%) and women (50%)
what's not to like? |
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Are Vice Presidents meant to be very visible?
When did anyone ever see Mike Pence outside of him staging walkouts from football arenas and outside of Trump fans wanting to lynch him? |
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and those two things probably already made Pence one of the more visible Vice Presidents in history.
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Pence is famous for being the Veep most publicly ridiculed by his President.
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I guess when there is a huge crisis at the border, that was caused by Biden and Harris, and then Biden puts Harris in charge of said crisis, then I would expect (and I guess the USA people) any VP to own it and at the very least show up down there to see the crisis first hand. I think she blamed it on Covid and the travelling first, but then managed to do various other trips that seemed pointless in comparison. But the media have just given both a pretty much free pass up until the last week.
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Yeah, Pence's visibility was basically based on
Him doing Patriotic Cringe Warrior publicity stunts he was ordered to do by Trump, like the staged football walkout Getting made fun of by Trump without ever defending himself Trump loyalists developing a lust to murder him because he didn't want to go along with Trump trying to steal the election in the end |
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So not sure why Magic__Daps, in his ever angry ways, rants about Harris not being visible enough.
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Pence still spends most of his time grovelling to Trump - he's like a dog who loves his master no matter how much he gets beaten
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Ok Edy, has her handling of the border crisis been great, and you don't think she at least show some sort of leadership whatsoever and go and see the mess she has helped create?
Her non stop fake laughing at every opportunity when there is something serious going on is awful (basically when she cannot give an answer), and how anyone could warm to her is just beyond me. But each to their own. |
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PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA · 11m 2022 Generic Congressional Ballot Poll: Democrats 50% (+10) Republicans 40% @EchelonInsights ~ 1,016 RV ~ 8/13-8/18 |
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how anyone could warm to her is just beyond me. But each to their own.
Daps you're not exactly positively inclined towards anyone left of Hermann Himmler |
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2024 National Republican Primary Poll:
DeSantis 25% Pence 23% Cruz 9% Trump Jr. 5% Haley 5% Romney 4% Rubio 3% Cotton 1% T. Scott 1% Hawley 1% Abbott 1% Noem 1% Christie 1% Carlson 0% Pompeo 0% Hogan 0% Sasse 0% R. Scott 0% Cheney 0% Taylor Greene 0% Lindell 0% @EchelonInsights 7:31 pm · 22 Aug 2021·Twitter Web App |
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PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA · 10m 2024 National Democratic Primary Poll: Harris 33% Buttigieg 11% Ocasio-Cortez 8% Abrams 6% Booker 6% Warren 5% Klobuchar 2% Yang 2% Newsom 2% O'Rourke 2% Beshear 1% Whitmer 1% Gabbard 1% Gillibrand 1% Sinema 0% @EchelonInsights ~ 514 RV ~ 8/13-8/18 |
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She has visited the border. Did you fail to do your research yet again? Though I'm not exactly sure how a border trip is meant to be useful. I know that some Republicans have lambasted her on the lack of trips, but what exactly are additional trips by Harris (or anyone) to every part of the border meant to do?
Seriously, Magic__Daps, if she was to be really visible and make lots of border trips, would you suddenly go "What a leader! This is how you tackle a crisis!"? |
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DeSantis 25%
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Edy - she should have visited the border when the crisis started off months ago, and within days, seeing as she was pert of the huge mess created. That is a given. She was asked time after time or the press secretary was, and never once was there any date given but just excuse after excuse after excuse, but she managed to go and and try and get some brownie points by doing visits that were meaningless.
As for your second part, why would I praise anyone for actually doing their job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk-CSEa6W30 |
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What change would it have made if she had visited when the crisis started off months ago? It would have been token actionism just like the latter visit you yourself called meaningless. She was just pestered into it by a bunch of Republicans, and surprise, surprise...when she gave into it that wasn't right either.
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What would Bill Clinton have polled in a Democratic primary in 1989? 2%?
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edy, whether she visits or doesn't visit, whatever she says or does, she just appears pretty useless at any aspect of national politics.
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harris didn't even make it to the first democrat primary in 2020
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