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By:
Giuseppe
When: 18 Aug 21 16:08
DeSantis is the man Cool

would probably beat Biden too
By:
politicspunter
When: 20 Aug 21 21:08
Trump moves up to 2nd favourite (7.0) in outright betting for 2024 Presidential election in front of Harris (7.4).
By:
Giuseppe
When: 20 Aug 21 21:16
won't be long before he's favourite

hopefully the GOP will remove term limits at some point between now and 2024
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 09:24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
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Some steady polls for Trump for 2024 Republican nominee and a pretty good one for Pence in voting without Trump although De Santis still clear favourite in that category.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 21 Aug 21 10:26
Comedy Gold from PP regarding Trump on here! Tell all: "Lay at the highest price", but no, no, no, when the price goes south "I backed him for a profit" LaughLaugh

Who'd have guessed PP would be doing some aftertiming.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 11:27
New Democratic Primary poll has Kamala Harris on 31%, 22% clear of a host of others led by Pete Buttigieg. It's difficult to see why you won't win money simply by dutching Biden and Harris for the nomination. There simply doesn't look to be any other serious candidates in with a chance. Black voters won't vote for Buttigieg, AOC is too far left, no one else really in the shake up at the moment.
By:
blank
When: 21 Aug 21 12:47
The slack or value in the market does appear to be on the democrat side. The winning party market is 1.78Dems Vs 2.44Repubs, but in the presidential market the republican runners actually have more of the book % than the democrat runners. So either the democrat runners are value, there's a substantial chance the democrat nominee isn't in the market, or the winning party market is wrong.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 13:04
Blank, Do you feel recent events in Afghanistan have increased or decreased the chances of Trump running?
By:
blank
When: 21 Aug 21 13:11
I think it has increased because he has more chance of beating the democrat nominee now.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 13:15
Yes, could be. However, do you think that in 2024 the Afghanistan situation is likely to change any voters minds ? Three years will be a long way back.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 13:18
Trump falsely claims it's "illegal for me to say" whether he's running for president in 2024

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/18/trump-falsely-claims-its-illegal-for-me-to-say-whether-hes-running-for-president-in-2024_partner/
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This article does suggest why Trump refuses to say whether he will run.
By:
blank
When: 21 Aug 21 13:21
Probably not but I don't think it's just that single issue,  it's the fact that it has shown there are dents in Biden's armour and there might be some more mistakes over the next few years.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Aug 21 13:23
That is certain, no doubt about it.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 11:08
Money piling on Trump today for 2024 Presidential winner. Could overtake Biden as favourite if trend continues !
By:
A_T
When: 22 Aug 21 11:17
is this Trump fans betting on what they want to happen rather than what is probable?
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 11:19
Trump certainly has all the momentum in the betting market. Folks probably reckoning he has at least a 50/50 shot v Harris and now only a slight underdog v Biden?
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 14:22
Kamala Harris price for President outright drifting badly which seems strange. If Biden were to be replaced before 2024, surely she would be an automatic choice?
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 22 Aug 21 18:37
Who in their right mind would want her. She just seems to think that by putting on a fake laugh at pretty much anything then it will either make people like her, or the issue will disappear - but it does the exact opposite. She seems to have been missing for months, nobody knows her job or what she thinks as she has just been hiding away. Her handling of the border crisis is nothing short of negligent, and I wonder if she has even managed to go there yet. Shocking woman.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 22 Aug 21 18:43
she appeals to the asian demographic (6%), african americans (12%) and women (50%)

what's not to like?
By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 19:05
Are Vice Presidents meant to be very visible?

When did anyone ever see Mike Pence outside of him staging walkouts from football arenas and outside of Trump fans wanting to lynch him?
By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 19:07
and those two things probably already made Pence one of the more visible Vice Presidents in history.
By:
A_T
When: 22 Aug 21 19:09
Pence is famous for being the Veep most publicly ridiculed by his President.
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 22 Aug 21 19:20
I guess when there is a huge crisis at the border, that was caused by Biden and Harris, and then Biden puts Harris in charge of said crisis, then I would expect (and I guess the USA people) any VP to own it and at the very least show up down there to see the crisis first hand. I think she blamed it on Covid and the travelling first, but then managed to do various other trips that seemed pointless in comparison. But the media have just given both a pretty much free pass up until the last week.
By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 19:20
Yeah, Pence's visibility was basically based on

Him doing Patriotic Cringe Warrior publicity stunts he was ordered to do by Trump, like the staged football walkout
Getting made fun of by Trump without ever defending himself
Trump loyalists developing a lust to murder him because he didn't want to go along with Trump trying to steal the election in the end
By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 19:21
So not sure why Magic__Daps, in his ever angry ways, rants about Harris not being visible enough.
By:
A_T
When: 22 Aug 21 19:33
Pence still spends most of his time grovelling to Trump - he's like a dog who loves his master no matter how much he gets beaten
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 22 Aug 21 19:34
Ok Edy, has her handling of the border crisis been great, and you don't think she at least show some sort of leadership whatsoever and go and see the mess she has helped create?

Her non stop fake laughing at every opportunity when there is something serious going on is awful (basically when she cannot give an answer), and how anyone could warm to her is just beyond me. But each to their own.
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 19:41
PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA
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11m
2022 Generic Congressional Ballot Poll:

Democrats 50% (+10)
Republicans 40%

@EchelonInsights
~ 1,016 RV ~ 8/13-8/18
By:
A_T
When: 22 Aug 21 19:41
how anyone could warm to her is just beyond me. But each to their own.

Daps you're not exactly positively inclined towards anyone left of Hermann Himmler
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 19:42
2024 National Republican Primary Poll:

DeSantis 25%
Pence 23%
Cruz 9%
Trump Jr. 5%
Haley 5%
Romney 4%
Rubio 3%
Cotton 1%
T. Scott 1%
Hawley 1%
Abbott 1%
Noem 1%
Christie 1%
Carlson 0%
Pompeo 0%
Hogan 0%
Sasse 0%
R. Scott 0%
Cheney 0%
Taylor Greene 0%
Lindell 0%

@EchelonInsights
7:31 pm · 22 Aug 2021·Twitter Web App
By:
politicspunter
When: 22 Aug 21 19:44
PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA
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10m
2024 National Democratic Primary Poll:

Harris 33%
Buttigieg 11%
Ocasio-Cortez 8%
Abrams 6%
Booker 6%
Warren 5%
Klobuchar 2%
Yang 2%
Newsom 2%
O'Rourke 2%
Beshear 1%
Whitmer 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Sinema 0%

@EchelonInsights
~ 514 RV ~ 8/13-8/18
By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 19:48
She has visited the border. Did you fail to do your research yet again? Though I'm not exactly sure how a border trip is meant to be useful. I know that some Republicans have lambasted her on the lack of trips, but what exactly are additional trips by Harris (or anyone) to every part of the border meant to do?

Seriously, Magic__Daps, if she was to be really visible and make lots of border trips, would you suddenly go "What a leader! This is how you tackle a crisis!"?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 22 Aug 21 19:50
DeSantis 25% Cool
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 22 Aug 21 20:52
Edy - she should have visited the border when the crisis started off months ago,  and within days, seeing as she was pert of the huge mess created. That is a given. She was asked time after time or the press secretary was, and never once was there any date given but just excuse after excuse after excuse, but she managed to go and and try and get some brownie points by doing visits that were meaningless.

As for your second part, why would I praise anyone for actually doing their job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk-CSEa6W30
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Aug 21 21:02

Aug 22, 2021 -- 7:48PM, edy wrote:


She has visited the border. Did you fail to do your research yet again? Though I'm not exactly sure how a border trip is meant to be useful. I know that some Republicans have lambasted her on the lack of trips, but what exactly are additional trips by Harris (or anyone) to every part of the border meant to do?Seriously, Magic__Daps, if she was to be really visible and make lots of border trips, would you suddenly go "What a leader! This is how you tackle a crisis!"?


Thread is about the next presidential election. Pence was never much of a factor in the last race, Harris is supposed to by vying for favourite in this one.

By:
edy
When: 22 Aug 21 21:03
What change would it have made if she had visited when the crisis started off months ago? It would have been token actionism just like the latter visit you yourself called meaningless. She was just pestered into it by a bunch of Republicans, and surprise, surprise...when she gave into it that wasn't right either.
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Aug 21 21:06

Aug 21, 2021 -- 11:27AM, politicspunter wrote:


New Democratic Primary poll has Kamala Harris on 31%, 22% clear of a host of others led by Pete Buttigieg. It's difficult to see why you won't win money simply by dutching Biden and Harris for the nomination. There simply doesn't look to be any other serious candidates in with a chance. Black voters won't vote for Buttigieg, AOC is too far left, no one else really in the shake up at the moment.


That's a poor poll for Harris. In a scenario where Biden isn't an option, at a time when primary challengers are 2 years off making their bids, 69% don't want her. Hard to see what is going to improve her numbers either. Only If Joe has to go before '24, and she becomes default through incumbency, then some Dems may just feel obliged to stick with her.

By:
tobermory
When: 22 Aug 21 21:08
What would Bill Clinton have polled in a Democratic primary in 1989? 2%?
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Aug 21 21:09
edy, whether she visits or doesn't visit, whatever she says or does, she just appears pretty useless at any aspect of national politics.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 22 Aug 21 21:10
harris didn't even make it to the first democrat primary in 2020
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