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By:
Giuseppe
When: 17 Aug 21 20:18
"Ron De Santis price for Republican Nominee shortening today."

first Italian president incoming Cool
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:24
Well, I am not clear why you think that when I suggested, in January, court cases might take six weeks to appear suddenly mean that I was convinced, and trying to convince others, that Trump was about to serve serious jail time. As far as I am aware, cases against Trump and his business organisation are ongoing but as far as I know, no cases have reached court as yet.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:28
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-company-cfo-plead-not-guilty-criminal-charges-2021-07-01/
.

This update is from July 2nd.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:30
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-04/donald-trump-organization-tax-fraud-charges/100266220
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Another link from the same time.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:35
Btw, even if Trump were to face charges, be found guilty and go to prison...He can still run for President.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 20:37
Rubbish, you were pushing the Trump  about to face “child sex abuse” charges, why bother trying to swerve it, it’s there for all to read.
You have a habit of letting your mouth get the better of you when attempting to score points.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:41
Donald Trump, the former president of the United States, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
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That will be these type of allegations I guess?
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:45
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12?r=US&IR=T#jessica-leeds-1
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And these?
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 20:51
Yep, no charges, no convictions, and the allegations seem to have disappeared like a fart in the wind since his removal from office, strange that.

So, what’s your next guess as to when charges will be brought?
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 20:53
Best speak to the authorities in USA for that one.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 20:57
Really! didn’t stop you giving us the benefit of your wisdom back in January, six weeks wasn’t it?

Hope you haven’t gone in to deep laying Trump.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:06
Why on earth you think I know when any charges will be made regarding Trump, I find quite bizarre. I have given you a couple of links to the latest updates, I don't know anything more than that. As far as the current betting is concerned regarding the 2024 Presidential election, my biggest winner currently is Biden, both for Democratic nominee and President outright (this is mentioned up thread). My biggest winner currently in the Republican nominee market is Mike Pence. I will currently win £7.62 exactly minus commission if Trump wins.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 21:17
You didn’t know anything more than that when you ran your mouth back in January, didn’t stop you.

Sorry I thought you were on record as saying…

“Yep l will be laying Trump at the highest prices”

Back in early June,

Not a political player myself, but I imagine there’s a few playing with your money now, given the way the price has gone.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:20
I have already laid Trump at prices that I felt were value. I have also backed Trump at prices I felt were value. I have no interest in who wins, as long as I do.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 21:25
Thought prices had only gone one way since you started laying at the “highest prices” Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:27
You would be astonished if I told you the highest price I have backed Trump at.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 21:30
I thought you were offering the highest prices Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:32
You are mistaken, plenty have offered higher prices than what I considered what his highest price should be.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:33
And, needless to say, I backed him at those prices offered.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 21:41
Yep l will be laying Trump at the highest prices”

So that was you just running your mouth again then?

On that thread back in January you were offering to take every penny off those “mug” Trump backers, guess they didn’t know where to get those “astonishing odds” that you got, they came to you instead, you’re a clever guy.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 21:48
Well, thank you. The 2024 Presidential and associated markets is the same as any other political market from a betting point of view (as you say, you are not a political player). Before any market opens, you look at all available data and draw up a tissue price with lowest possible/highest possible price for the main candidates (or contracts, as they are commonly known, in betting parlance). If a contract falls outwith those highest /lowest odds thresholds, then you back/lay accordingly. It's a good solid system that works consistently and is very profitable.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 21:56
All very interesting, but hard to believe others haven’t figured out how to make a book on the possible runners and  what constitutes value in any market.this is a betting site after all.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 22:08
And of course those describe as “mug” Trump backer earlier in the year turn out to be no mugs at all, given where prices are now.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:08
Yes, plenty of them. The most important part in political betting is to be completely independent minded regarding the result. If you are clearly biased in any way, you will only back one contract with a political viewpoint you share and lay contracts you do not share. This is the quickest route to the poor house. Here is a fairly typical recent example. The Batley and Spen by election was on 1st July. I looked at the field and recent by elections such as Hartlepool and reckoned the tories should be favourite to win, with an initial shortest price of 1.5. Here are some of my lay bets made when the market opened....

2021-07-02
08:10    232921074868    2021-05-11
08:04    Politics / UK - By-Elections/ Batley and Spen By-Election / Conservative
Lay        1.10    500.00    Won        500.00   
    2021-07-02
08:10    232921005737    2021-05-11
08:02    Politics / UK - By-Elections/ Batley and Spen By-Election / Conservative
Lay        1.10    200.00    Won        200.00   
2021-07-02
08:10    232920694643    2021-05-11
07:49    Politics / UK - By-Elections/ Batley and Spen By-Election / Conservative
Lay        1.05    99.77    Won        99.77
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:09
That was to your 9:56 post.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 17 Aug 21 22:10
all that money and won't lend Uncle Beppe a dime Plain
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:19
Btw, with particular regard to Trump, don't ever assume that the odds available at bookies/exchanges represent an accurate reflection of winning chances. They are often miles out, particularly with well known contracts.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 22:26
So you got the market right, well done, we all do occasionally.

Can we see those “ astonishing prices” you managed to get against Trump,? and do you still consider those backing him earlier as “mugs” surly they are in the same trading position as you.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:29
No to the first part and I have no idea what positions others have regarding Trump for 2024. However, I would suggest that the majority are employing a similar strategy as myself.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:31
The reason I don't wish to show any Trump bets is because if I post them now, the company I placed one in particular with will be able to identify me on here.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 22:33
So not “mugs” for taking up your offer to lay every penny Trump supporters wanted on that thread then, ok.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:35
I layed Trump at odds I considered value for me. I also backed Trump at odds I considered value. I don't know how clear I can make it, whoever wins is irrelevant to me, as long as I win.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 22:42
So why describe others in a derogatory manner, Trump supporters, when they were simply doing what you’re doing? they are now in a excellent trading position thanks to you.
You should have taken your own advice and not let your emotions rule your head.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:44
As I have said previously, I have no idea what others positions are regarding Trump, no one does apart from the individual concerned.
By:
potlis
When: 17 Aug 21 22:45
It’s been a pleasant conversation, but time for a nap, happy to continue tomorrow if I’m around, night, night.
By:
politicspunter
When: 17 Aug 21 22:48
Good night.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 18 Aug 21 00:50
give us a few tips please betting master
By:
politicspunter
When: 18 Aug 21 16:02
PollTracker
@PollTrackerUSA
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47m
FLORIDA
2024 Presidential General Election:

Joe Biden 48% (+1)
Donald Trump 47%

@StPetePolls
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@Fla_Pol
~ 2,068 RV ~ 8/16-8/17

Bit of a surprise there.
By:
politicspunter
When: 18 Aug 21 16:05
2022 #FLGov General Election Poll:

Ron DeSantis (R-Inc) 46% (+3)
Charlie Crist (D) 43%

Ron DeSantis (R-Inc) 50% (+10)
Nikki Fried (D) 40%

@SusquehannaPR
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@PlayBUSR
~ 700 RV ~ 8/4-8/10

DeSantis should hang on here, if he chooses to run for Governor again.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 18 Aug 21 16:06
Biden's 4.4% popular vote lead almost gone after 8 months

imagine what the numbers will be in 2024
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