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Hi Daniel, no I don't feel she is, at those odds. She is still very much a contender but I feel that odds nearer to 10.0 would more accurately reflect her current chances.
Trump, who on earth knows? He is a walking lottery. |
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Why don't you ask Timber (I have him blocked) and whatever he says, we will back the opposite.
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Poll: Without Trump in the race, DeSantis dominates 2024 GOP White House hopefuls
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/14/desantis-poll-2024-president-499670 DeSantis definitely pulling ahead of the non-Trump candidates. |
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BTW, a very strong case could be made for DeSantis not running in 2024 and waiting until 2028. He has plenty of time on his side and may not wish to go up against the incumbent.
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Some reasons why DeSantis may decide not to run for President in 2024...
1/ He is only 42, he has plenty of time on his side. 2/ If Biden runs, any GOP candidate is likely to be underdog. 3/ The GOP party is currently hopelessly split, divided parties don't win elections. 4/ DeSantis strength is in the South of the USA. He would likely win states such as Florida and Texas but the GOP already hold them. It would be really tough to win states in the North and Mid West. 5/ He would have at least a 50/50 shot against Harris in 2028, a fair chance he would be favourite in a post Trump USA. 6/ Trump may run in 2024, eliminating any other GOP candidates. |
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2024 National GOP Primary Poll:
Trump 47% DeSantis 19% Pence 8% Haley 3% Romney 3% Cruz 2% T. Scott 1% Rubio 1% Cotton 1% Noem 1% Hogan 1% R. Scott 0% Pompeo 0% Hawley 0% Christie 0% . Head-2-Head: Trump 58% DeSantis 31% @Fabrizio_Lee ~ 800 RV ~ 7/6-7/8 |
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2024 National Republican Primary Poll, Without Trump:
DeSantis 39% Pence 15% Cruz 7% Haley 4% Romney 3% T. Scott 2% Noem 2% Pompeo 1% Cotton 1% Hogan 1% R. Scott 1% Hawley 0% Christie 0% @Fabrizio_Lee ~ 800 RV ~ 7/6-7/8 |
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If Trump does run, he won't be shielded from difficult questions/grilling by the media as he was when President. He will simply be a candidate and the primaries will be tough viewing for any GOP strategist that wishes to bring along centrist moderate Republicans and above all, moderate independent voters who very often decide elections in key states. There is also a hard core chunk of the GOP electorate (around 20% or so) who say they will not support Trump under any circumstances.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/presidents-used-to-be-the-faces-of-their-political-parties-is-that-no-longer-the-case/?ex_cid=538twitter
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Biden nets positive marks for handling pandemic, but vaccine resistance, Delta concern remains - CBS News poll
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-pandemic-approval-covid-19-opinion-poll/ |
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2024 National Republican Primary Poll:
Trump 46% DeSantis 13% Pence 6% Cruz 5% Haley 5% Rubio 3% Noem 1% T. Scott 0% Hawley 0% PEM Management Corporation |
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When you look at this initially you think this must be good for Trump. It isn't. His support is way down from this polling organisation previous poll.
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New National Poll:Trump’s GOP Support Is Fragmenting
Post-election missteps are leading Trump’s core supporters to abandon him Washington D.C. – A new nationwide survey by John Bolton Super PAC of voters reveals that a majority of Republican primary voters now agree “that a new Republican candidate – a fresh face – would be a stronger candidate to defeat Joe Biden in 2024.” That is a major shift since our first national poll taken in April where 50% of primary voters said Trump would be the strongest candidate to defeat Biden while 36% said another candidate would be stronger. That’s a shift of 17 points away from Trump and 16 points to a “fresh face” – a 33-point swing. Specifically, Republican primary voters disapprove of Trump’s handling of the January 6 riot, sided with Pence over certifying electoral college voters, and are concerned over the recent Trump Organization indictments. |
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2024 New Hampshire Republican Primary Poll:
Trump 47% DeSantis 19% Haley 6% Pence 5% Noem 2% Cruz 2% Hawley 0% Cotton 0% Pompeo 0% @UNHSurveyCenter ~ 770 LV ~ 7/15-7/19 |
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Chump is going to jail and so are some of his family. Fraudy!
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Trump Says He Can't Announce 2024 Run Because of 'Antiquated' and 'Ridiculous' Campaign Finance Rules
https://ijr.com/trump-says-he-cant-announce-2024-run/ basically it would increase scrutiny of his grifting and he certainly doesn't want that |
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Why Biden’s Approval Rating Has Barely Budged In His First 6 Months
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-bidens-approval-rating-has-barely-budged-in-his-first-6-months/?ex_cid=538twitter . |
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Biden approval rating consistently over 50%. It would need to come down to mid forties to give any Republican a chance of defeating him.
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Biden's approval must be tied to trump.
Trump goes... Biden is back in spotlite. |
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
. Looking down this page a little, you can see approval/disapproval ratings for past Presidents over their term, back to Truman. As polling has become more accurate over the years, Trump probably was busted years before election day. |
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Yet they want to save his
"legacy" by blaming covid |
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As I always said, in the main election thread, I wasn't convinced that the identity of the Democrat candidate was incredibly important. Basically, it was a referendum on Trump and all the polling was against him.
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I felt it important dems had
a respected candidate. They just couldn't hurt biden Their biggest success was attacking his stutter! Ffs |
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He might have been dull but that was his strength.
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yes Biden was incredibly dull but that's just what independent voters were looking for after 4 years of Trump
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Billionaire investor and former Donald Trump adviser Thomas Barrack has pleaded not guilty to charges of acting as an agent of a foreign government.
Mr Barrack, 74, was a key aide to Mr Trump during his 2016 campaign. He has been accused of illegally lobbying on behalf of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) during and after the election, as well as lying to the FBI. Mr Barrack entered his not guilty plea during his first court appearance on Monday in New York City. The ex-Trump official faces federal charges of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and making multiple false statements to the FBI during a 2019 interview. He was arrested in California last week. As he left court on Monday, Mr Barrack told reporters: "As you'd expect, the system is working... you'll all see that I'm 100% innocent." Mr Barrack's employee, Matthew Grimes, also faces illegal lobbying charges and pleaded not guilty on Monday. A UAE citizen, Rashid Sultan Rashid Al Malik Alshahhi, 43, was also charged and remains at large. The three men are accused of unlawfully trying to promote UAE government interests by using Mr Barrack's connections to influence officials and media appearances. They also allegedly promoted the candidacy of a UAE-favoured individual as US ambassador to Abu Dhabi. Mr Barrack, who also served as Mr Trump's inaugural committee chairman, had been friends with the former president for four decades. The wealthy investor is the latest ex-Trump aide to face criminal charges, like former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump Organization lawyer Michael Cohen. His next court appearance is 2 September. Mr Barrack is currently free on a $250m (£180m) bond, but must wear an electronic GPS ankle bracelet, restrict his travel and follow a curfew. |
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I would be more worried about the Dem's pumping money into the Co vid Lab in WUHAN ,why was money being sent to that Lab in Wuhan ,By the STATES
incredible tbh |
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I'd be more worried my son in law was trying to fcek me !
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2022 Generic Congressional Ballot Poll:
Democrats 48% (+7) Republicans 41% @EchelonInsights ~ 1,143 RV ~ 7/19-7/23 |
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2024 National Republican Primary Poll:
DeSantis 32% Pence 17% Trump Jr. 10% Cruz 9% Haley 4% Romney 3% Rubio 2% Carlson 1% Pompeo 1% Cotton 1% T. Scott 1% Hawley 1% Abbott 1% Noem 1% Cheney 1% Sasse 0% R. Scott 0% Christie 0% Hogan 0% @EchelonInsights ~ 421 RV ~ 7/19-7/23 |
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De Santis stretches his lead over the rest with no other new contender making an impact.
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The price of Donald Trump to be the Republican Presidential nominee in 2024 has been coming in for significant support, now down to 3.4 on the exchange. Now, someone may know something and is going to make a killing on almost completely free money but I am far from convinced.
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Is that hulk hogan?
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No, it's Governor Larry Hogan of Maryland. |
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How A Special Election In Texas’s 6th District Will Test Trump’s Influence On The GOP
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-a-special-election-in-texass-6th-district-will-test-trumps-influence-on-the-gop/?ex_cid=538twitter Hmm, I wonder who won this? |
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Carnage on an American site I am on as Trump endorsee Susan Wright is gubbed at 1/10.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas%27s_6th_congressional_district_special_election
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George P Bush has been sucking up to Trump for the the Texas AG election - stiffed by the Don!
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/27/politics/george-p-bush-donald-trump-ken-paxton/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29 |
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(CNN)George P. Bush wanted Donald Trump's endorsement badly. Or, at a minimum, he wanted the former president to stay out of his primary challenge to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.
To make that happen, George P. Bush kissed up to Trump in the most obsequious -- and embarrassing -- ways possible. ![]() |