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By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 13:50
ostend you do know that your brilliant idea means that Harris is joint president at the moment?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 13:50
joint pres elect that is
By:
wolf3011
When: 08 Nov 20 13:51
No use crying to me Dave, allow the due process to take its course. If funds are low due to the winnings not being paid out maybe pop across to quickquid as this could take weeks or months
By:
ostend
When: 08 Nov 20 13:54
and still 400+ Laugh Theres gotta be value in it.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 13:57
I don't have any bets in the market wolf, so I'm not crying about anything, unlike forum trumptards.
By:
wolf3011
When: 08 Nov 20 13:58
Listening to Biden in his speech banging on about " God" you know the country is going to hell in a handcart in any event which is the default option for the clueless.

If you have no bets in it Davey why are you so worked up?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 13:59
because I dislike incompetence, hence my contempt for trump,
By:
wolf3011
When: 08 Nov 20 14:00
BTW I predicted a Biden landslide, my predictions don't match who I want to win in events. It shows how weak Biden is that in the face of the covid/BLM hysteria the result isnt more emphatic even when handed to the democrats on a plate
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 14:00
The President Market is bad enough but what about States. Michigan, nearly all votes counted, Biden 150K lead, state declared, no apparent court issues, everyone else settled. Betfair? Nope.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Nov 20 14:03
So pence is joint president now?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 14:04
They aren't settling states that would give biden the potus win as that would undermine their idiotic position, which I'm now quite certain is about avoiding "betfair call biden the winner" publicity.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 14:05
Dave, they have paid out on multiple states Biden has won, just not the ones he has flipped.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 14:05
has been all the time surely you saw this water bottle action?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjY4vdyBx0Y
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 14:06
yes exactly my point - they are avoiding settling the last few states
By:
ostend
When: 08 Nov 20 14:08
No, Pence is vice-president now, if Trump was to die he would become the next president until 20th Jan, or it could be Nancy Pelosi but thats a whole new scenario. And i wouldn't want to be accused of ramping again.
By:
hulk23
When: 08 Nov 20 14:52
despite the heading, the market is -

Who will be elected to be the next President of the United States of America as a result of the 2020 presidential election?

Biden.  doesn't matter if he falls down dead tomorrow, he was elected as a result of the election.
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 14:57

Nov 8, 2020 -- 2:52PM, hulk23 wrote:


despite the heading, the market is -Who will be elected to be the next President of the United States of America as a result of the 2020 presidential election?Biden.

By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 14:59
Your point is correct but that line is irrelevant for the purpose of settlement. The rule states:

This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2020 presidential election.

Which is Biden, now.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1318573265820921857
By:
ostend
When: 08 Nov 20 15:04
hulk, I recall no mention of "elected to be" in the rules last week. i can see this being voided. b/f are making the rules up as they go along.
By:
toonboy
When: 08 Nov 20 17:22
Michigan will be overturned in court. Widespread fraud. 130k votes just for Biden delivered after the count was stopped in the middle of the night. Benfords law statistical analysis already proven foul play there. Also the issue of the voting machines 'accidentally' giving 6k votes from Trump to Biden. Possibility of a re run in some states without mail in ballots being allowed.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 17:25
As far as I can make out, it's only Betfair that haven't paid out in Michigan.
By:
Angoose
When: 08 Nov 20 17:45

Nov 8, 2020 -- 5:22PM, toonboy wrote:


Michigan will be overturned in court. Widespread fraud. 130k votes just for Biden delivered after the count was stopped in the middle of the night. Benfords law statistical analysis already proven foul play there. Also the issue of the voting machines 'accidentally' giving 6k votes from Trump to Biden. Possibility of a re run in some states without mail in ballots being allowed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj20LKdg8-8

Detailed explanation of these issues available here.

By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 17:56

Nov 8, 2020 -- 5:22PM, toonboy wrote:


Michigan will be overturned in court. Widespread fraud. 130k votes just for Biden delivered after the count was stopped in the middle of the night. Benfords law statistical analysis already proven foul play there. Also the issue of the voting machines 'accidentally' giving 6k votes from Trump to Biden. Possibility of a re run in some states without mail in ballots being allowed.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1325259390329425921

Debunked. There was no glitch in the software, it was user error. And it was spotted. Next!

By:
johnni
When: 08 Nov 20 18:04
I just listened to Donald Trumps head lawyer Rudy Giulianis live interview on youtube live, Steve Crowder show.

Rudy Giuliani said they have evidence of about 400,000 early votes "mail ballots", just in Pennsylvania, where a republican was not allowed to monitor the vote.

Rudy Giuliani said: 3 persons usually monitor the opening of the envelope. Inside the envelope is another envelope. Then it is opened and every person (of the 3 present) will see if it is a valid ballot.

Giuliani said these about 400,000 ballots, which were not allowed to be monitored by a republican, they will all be asked to be removed from the total vote as invalid.

(Side note by me: if invalid ballots have been mixed with valid ones ln purpose, a case of exspoliation exists, a legal term, where even more votes will be deemed invalid since no one can say what is a real vote and what not).

400,000 votes would be removed from Pennsylvanias vote count. If the the rest favour Donald Trump he wins.


Giuliani said that similar situations exist in several states and they will among others involve law suits of the following: deceased people votin, votes came too late, voting machine errors (dominion system).

Giuliani said he expects this to go to the supreme court.

This election is, far from over.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Nov 20 18:13
Guiliani gave an example of fraud in his press conference outside the garden centre, but it was of republican fraud.

It's just bizarre
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 18:14
Still on the denial stage, I see. Cannot wait for this to make it to the courts, it's going to be glorious.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:16
Why would these 400,000 invalid votes be taken only from Biden total please?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Nov 20 18:19
Maybe he's talking about the 400k
fake republicans they included in
Pennsylvania.

There's no evidence yet so it must
be true
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:24
Just realised that Betfair haven't settled Nevada either. Democrat state held by Clinton in 2016. Called for Biden in 2020.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:27
In Nevada, Biden is 31,464 ahead with roughly 88,000 to count and Biden is winning 60-70% of every upload. State called yesterday for Biden but Betfair won't pay out Sad
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 18:33
As I said PP they are simply not wanting to have "betfair pays on biden" publicity. The popular vote winner, whose rules say that it will be settled on the CNN count is not setteled despite CNN showing biden ahead by 4m.
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 18:38
It's getting beyond embarrassing now, really is shameful. I notice George Bush Jnr has congratulated Biden today but Betfair still pretending there is any doubt.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:40
Any idea why they won't pay out on Nevada?
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 08 Nov 20 18:42
Because that'll mean acknowledging that Biden has won.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:42
Btw, on the popular vote part, there are roughly 1 million votes to count in New York and 3 million in California. Maybe there is some doubt as to who these folks are likely to have voted for?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Nov 20 18:42
The absurd thing is if they had settled yesterday and pointed to their rules there would have been no issue - no one would have noticed. But they have engineered themselves into a situation where their decision implies something more than simple administration.
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 18:51
And now Biden has just picked up 91.9% of the latest upload from Pennsylvania. He is 42,858 ahead with roughly 71K to count. Called yesterday for Biden, Betfair won't pay outSad
By:
johnni
When: 08 Nov 20 19:28

Nov 8, 2020 -- 6:16PM, politicspunter wrote:


Why would these 400,000 invalid votes be taken only from Biden total please?


Most mail in ballot votes were for biden. Remove 400,000 of them in total, and very likely mr Biden isnt leading anymore with the current 40k.

Trump was golfing today, got a little personal funtime, before the legal battle truly begins.

This will be thriller of the century in (whatever country) politics.

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Nov 20 19:35
I see the loons have arrivedLaugh

Keep going boys. let you entertain us!

Prize for the most ridiculous idiot!

But there is some stiff competition!
By:
politicspunter
When: 08 Nov 20 19:35
You do know that observers do not need to view every ballot as Rudi alleges?
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