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By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 21:37
It won't.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 21:39
https://youtu.be/7O37DA04-po

Plenty of videos like this from Americans

The media can't declare a winner
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 21:41
Ah SS, you should stay off youtube and the like. That's how you lose money believing all that hokum.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 21:44
I don't care about money here, PP

The media, the politicians, can't declare a winner, there's a process that has to be adhered to

The media and some of these politicians gaslighting is pretty pathetic, they ain't jumping the gun they are just straight up lying to their gullible supporters
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 21:46
They can't move on with the next stage until all the states have officially given their results

And if Mr Trump is contesting it that state can't declare a winner
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 21:50
Sure.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 21:52
Yes it is sure

There's a process and the media can't go round declaring a winner UNTIL its done
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 21:56
Cast your mind back to 2016 SS do you think every single vote was counted before Trump was called president-elect?
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 21:56
The AP always call the winner of states etc. That is standard procedure every election.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 21:59
Hank

No Hillary conceded and Trump was then declared all the states he won, the votes tallied and then process begun of making him president
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:00
Mr Trump hasn't conceded, theres recounts going on, The Trump team are filing law suits etc

Therefor there isn't a president elect yet
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:02
There is a President elect as from about three days ago I think it is now.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:03
No its a projected president
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:04
Simply following standard USA election procedure. Now Trump doesn't have to concede but it if he doesn't then the tractor will be getting started.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:08
I know PA is now outside auto recount territory - is it the same for Michigan?
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:12
Nm I see it is outside of it so more $ for Trump
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:13
Michigan well outside any recount stuff.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:14
If they contest it and find any proof there's been voting fraud they have a right to call a recount
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:16
It must be hard to accept there is nothing coming forward SS - it is a good way to get his clueless marks to pay off campaign debts though- I will say this for him - possibly best grifter of all time.
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:18
As the Michigan judge told Trumps legal team, there is a lot of stuff you have failed to produce today and the main one is evidence. Biden is 150K ahead, well outside recount territory. The Trump team would be better trying another state.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:18
McSally thinks she is Trump - not conceding 80k behind with 45k to count ffs
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:19
Perhaps the state with GOP legislature and Gov pp? Wink
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:20
Trumps best shot is Georgia. Maybe he will win the full recount. Arizona also worth a look as is Wisconsin.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:21
Massive odds-  not as though we're talking 500 votes here
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:26
In Georgia they will almost certainly find ballot anomalies from both sides. Doubtful if it will change the result though.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:31
That's the infuriating thing pp - go through all 50 states and you will find mistakes - enough to overturn results? very, very unlikely. A deliberate whole scale fraud? - Let's see the hard evidence.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:34
Maybe the whole scale fraud isn't what they're looking for Wink

But there's fraud
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:40
I see you're lessening the accusations now SS - preparing yourself I think Silly
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:41
Has anyone yet to see the media prove there's no fraud?

There's proof of glitches, proof of dodgy ballots turning up etc

But the media say no fraud and then shut anyone off without providing a shred of evidence to kill off the debate

I'm not, hank
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:41
I think I saw on the bbc that USA voter fraud estimated over many years at roughly 0.000001 %
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:42
The media do not have to prove anything.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:42
The media are lying, PP

They can keep this charade up but to many people know the game now

Mr Trump gives the green light on the media and they are done
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:42
Fk me it's on the accuser to show the evidence not for people to prove there isn't fraud Laugh you all really need to put up or stfu
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:43

Nov 11, 2020 -- 5:42PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


The media are lying, PP They can keep this charade up but to many people know the game now Mr Trump gives the green light on the media and they are done


No they aren't.

By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:43
You must be one of those people that says 'well, prove there is no god'
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:43
The don't have to prove anything LaughLaughLaugh

So you take their word for everything without looking into it yourself ?

The media are saying no fraud, therefor they have to provide evidence there's no fraud, they are accusing Mr Trump of lying
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:44
So therefor the media have to provide evidence of baseless accusations of lying
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:44
Let's see his best legal minds in court shall we - there is massive evidence you say-  we should find out soon enough then eh.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:46
He is absolutely spewing that he lost to the worst candidate in history in his opinion Laugh I must admit it must be hard to find a dignified way out now.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:46
And the democrats have to prove they haven't cheated, if there's a lawsuit aimed at them they have to defend themselves
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