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By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:46
Do you know how courts work?
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:46
Yep, if there is evidence of mass fraud, then Trump has a case. No evidence, no case.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:47
Why are they ordering recounts then PP

There must be something in it
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:47
Nothing to do with Democrats. Any Trump lawsuit will be with the persons in charge of the count.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:48
If the police arrest me for murder, they have evidence of it, I then have to defend myself in court
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:49
A recount can be ordered if the voting totals are very close, ie, less than 1%. All standard stuff, no suggestion of foul play.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:49
The evidence might not be enough to find me guilty

But I've been taken to court for the murder on that evidence

So the democrats should be forced in to defend themselves
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:49
SS you seem to think recounts suggest something wrong. Each state will have it's own laws as to when an automatics recount would be necessary. Evidence being key eh SS
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:50
There must be evidence already because their ordering recounts
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:50
SS, Trumps legal team have no case against the Democratic Party. They are trying to create a case against the folks who conducted counts.
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:52
As far as I can make out, Trumps best chance is to claim certain votes should not have been counted. I believe this is the route they are pursuing.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:52
Target the weak first, get them singing like canaries and trust me they will

Then go after the cheats second when you've got witnesses to it
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:54
Someone was saying on the other thread that so far Trumps legal team have lost sixteen court cases so far and won zero as they have no evidence of anything untoward.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 11 Nov 20 22:55
Well that's utter b0llocks because he's got 1 state to order a recount
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:55
Read again what I said about recounts SS
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Nov 20 22:56
the laws of Georgia mean a recount is happening.
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:57
SS, the recount is standard procedure in a close result. There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing.
By:
politicspunter
When: 11 Nov 20 22:58
Just to say there will likely be a recount in Wisconsin and Arizona too. Pennsylvania perhaps as well. All close results.
By:
Dave23
When: 12 Nov 20 09:24
Electoral fraud is very rare in the United States - the detected rate is less than 0.0009%, according to a 2017 study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

There, I've corrected the above assertion for you and the BBC, politicspunter.

Less than 0.16% of the balls bowled, 2 from 1255 legal deliveries, were r*gged in the August 2010, 4th Test Match of the England v Pakistan Series. However, those two deliveries, ultimately, resulted in mass media attention and 3 Pakistan cricketers being jailed.

Generally speaking, those who commit fraud do so with the aim of gaining money and/or power. Usually, fraudsters would prefer that their activity was not detected. Generally speaking again, most fraudsters would not particularly desire to spend time in jail as a result of said fraud. All of that greatly limits the situations in which fraud could reasonably be expected to be conducted effectively.

It would be somewhat ambitious and difficult to attempt to r*g the outcome of the Presidential race in the states of California or Oklahoma, given the expected distribution and number of legal votes. It may be a little less challenging to illicitly influence the outcome of a close Mayoral race in Chicago or, possibly, in states with close Presidential races.
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 10:30
Been paid out on Alaska winner and popular vote winner.
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 10:31
Not with Betfair thoughSad
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 12:53
Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Alaska and Electoral College markets all been settled elsewhere nowGrin
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 12:54
Not with Betfair thoughSad
By:
humahoneybadger
When: 12 Nov 20 13:55
Pretty sure there will only be a recount in Arizona if the count is with 1/10 of a percent, which it won't be. They also do not allow either side to request a recount. That market should be settled.
By:
humahoneybadger
When: 12 Nov 20 13:55
Pretty sure there will only be a recount in Arizona if the count is with 1/10 of a percent, which it won't be. They also do not allow either side to request a recount. That market should be settled.
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 13:57
No it shouldn't. Arizona hasn't been called yet.
By:
humahoneybadger
When: 12 Nov 20 14:13
What's your definition of called?
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 14:17
By everyone possible in order that the market can be settled. If there is any element of doubt, certain bookie/exchanges won't settle.
By:
johnni
When: 12 Nov 20 14:50
Trump will win. His base will go nuts if he isnt chosen so military will install him
By:
johnni
When: 12 Nov 20 14:52
Continuation: it will install him after vote recount makes him legally and democrayically the chosen president. (Forgot to add)
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 14:53
Ah, that will be the Trump "losers and suckers" military.
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 15:12
Lol, Trump has won Alaska and Betfair settle it right awayLaugh
By:
dave1357
When: 12 Nov 20 15:17
yes arizona isn't within recount margins def should be settled if the law case is dropped as reported.
By:
dave1357
When: 12 Nov 20 15:22
alaska still has more votes outstanding than trumps lead, so they are accepting a projection there?
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 15:24
YepSad
By:
bingo bongo
When: 12 Nov 20 15:26
Could it just be that Betfair can't call many more states for Biden because they'd have to settle the next pres market.
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 15:28
I can't think of a single reason why they haven't settled Nevada.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 12 Nov 20 15:29
That's a good point bingo - BF really fked this up
By:
politicspunter
When: 12 Nov 20 15:31
Not only are other bookie/exchanges paying out on states, they are also paying out on the Presidential market and electoral college totals.
By:
Escapee
When: 12 Nov 20 15:37
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