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By:
cooperman
When: 04 Sep 20 07:13
A progressive US veterans group has hammered Donald Trump in an election ad aimed at his treatment of US service members, endangered by president's refusal to intervene in the Russian bounty scandal, according to the ad.

Political action committee VoteVets, counting 700,000 veterans and their families and supporters among its members, said that the president is "panicking" and "finding any excuse to show up in military communities" following alleged threats among Russian-backed militia in Afghanistan to target US troops, as well as "unconstitutional" attempts to deploy service members into cities against other Americans.

"He knows if elections were held today he'd lost the military vote in a landslide," according to the ad, quoting a recent Military Times poll that found 60 per cent of active-duty officers disapprove of his term in office.

The poll, released this week, was performed before Republican and Democratic presidential nominating conventions. In a survey of 1,000 active-duty troops, nearly half had an unfavourable view of the president. Among all participants, 42 per cent said they "strongly" disapprove of the president.

That same poll found that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has 41 per cent support among active-duty service members.

Only 37 per cent would re-elect the incumbent.

"Favourable" views of the president in Military Times polls have slipped from 46 per cent at the beginning of his presidency to 42 per cent last year. The 2020 poll reveals that only 38 per cent of respondents have a favourable view.

The VoteVets ad follows another military-focussed ad from Republican Voters Against Trump, which featured several Republican veterans speaking out against the president in support of his opponent. The ad aired on Fox News during the week of the Republican National Convention.

Dozens of national security officials who worked in four Republican administrations also have supported the former vice president in a platform released by Republican Voters Against Trump.

"Our troops are in more danger today because of Donald Trump's betrayals," the VoteVets ad says, claiming that the president "abandoned" Kurdish allies in Syria, "playing right into Russia's hand."

He "wouldn't stand up" against Russian president Vladimir Putin following the bounty controversy, igniting violent and tense confrontations between US and Russian troops, according to the ad.

"His weakness emboldens the enemy," the ad says. "Now Russia is directly engaging US troops."
By:
politicspunter
When: 04 Sep 20 08:39
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’
The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Belleau Wood is a consequential battle in American history, and the ground on which it was fought is venerated by the Marine Corps. America and its allies stopped the German advance toward Paris there in the spring of 1918. But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?” He also said that he didn’t understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the Allies.
Trump’s understanding of concepts such as patriotism, service, and sacrifice has interested me since he expressed contempt for the war record of the late Senator John McCain, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese. “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in 2015 while running for the Republican nomination for president. “I like people who weren’t captured.”
By:
cooperman
When: 04 Sep 20 08:48
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Sep 20 09:02
Trump is one of America’s great soldiers and defender of the nation
He should be given a medal every time he insults a liberal
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 Sep 20 10:46
The anti-Trump echo chamber was up early today.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Sep 20 14:00

Sep 4, 2020 -- 10:46AM, InsiderTrader wrote:


The anti-Trump echo chamber was up early today.


Your usual detailed rebuttal, I see. Let’s focus on a specific: what did you make of Trump’s comments about McCain’s Vietnam service?

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Sep 20 16:57
The anti-Trump echo chamber was up early today.

It's all down to pure envy, he's rich and they're skint.

That's all there is to it.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Sep 20 17:07
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other ******* die for his.
George S. Patton.

Very true.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Sep 20 17:31
The art of war is to fake bone spurs and let some other **** be a patriot.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 04 Sep 20 18:21

Sep 4, 2020 -- 2:00PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Sep  4, 2020 -- 10:46AM, InsiderTrader wrote:The anti-Trump echo chamber was up early today.Your usual detailed rebuttal, I see. Let’s focus on a specific: what did you make of Trump’s comments about McCain’s Vietnam service?


What did he say? It was so long ago I cannot remember all the details from 2016.

By:
cryoftruth
When: 04 Sep 20 20:25
As a friend with 2 real war veterans it is impossible to conclude that Trump is the biggest tossspot walking.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 04 Sep 20 20:26
That is apart from Putin who controls Trump of course
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Sep 20 21:42

Sep 4, 2020 -- 6:21PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Sep  4, 2020 --  2:00PM, Fatslogger wrote:Sep

By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Sep 20 21:47
Oh ffs. Bloody double space bug. He called him a loser and joked hat he preferred his war heroes not to have been captured. That’s before they really fell out.

When McCain died he claimed he’d never called him a loser.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Sep 20 21:52
joked hat he preferred his war heroes

What language is that?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Sep 20 21:54
Rumpism
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Sep 20 21:55
It’s English with not exemplary typing Crips. If you think about for a bit you might be able to work it out.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Sep 20 21:56
I couldn't care less.

I only pointed it out because you pulled me up over a mistake last night.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Sep 20 22:27

Sep 4, 2020 -- 9:56PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


I couldn't care less.I only pointed it out because you pulled me up over a mistake last night.


Yes, I just spotted that. My belated apologies for my bad manners. In my defence, it really wasn’t so obvious what you meant.

By:
thegiggilo
When: 05 Sep 20 02:25
Troops now voting Biden,they know he's a fake and lowlife..
By:
tobermory
When: 05 Sep 20 04:03
Trump blaming John Kelly - chief of staff from July 2017 to January 2019 - for the 'dead suckers' article.

“It could have been a guy like a John Kelly,” Mr Trump said while calling the story a “hoax”.

"I don't know that it was him, I see 'anonymous', but it could have been a guy like a John Kelly"

“I know John Kelly. He was with me. He had no temperament,” Mr Trump said. He went on to say that Mr Kelly was “exhausted” and “unable to function” by the end of his time with the Trump administration.

" He was sort of a tough guy, but by the time he was eaten up by this world he was unable to function, you look at some of his news conferences, he got eaten alive. I said "John, you're gonna have to go, please give me a letter of resignation" , and he did that, there are people who are upset that they're are not here anymore ........ He was unable to handle the pressure of this job,”
By:
cooperman
When: 05 Sep 20 07:00
VoteVets ad follows another military-focussed ad from Republican Voters Against Trump, which featured several Republican veterans speaking out against the president in support of his opponent. The ad aired on Fox News during the week of the Republican National Convention.

Dozens of national security officials who worked in four Republican administrations also have supported the former vice president in a platform released by Republican Voters Against Trump.

"Our troops are in more danger today because of Donald Trump's betrayals," the VoteVets ad says, claiming that the president "abandoned" Kurdish allies in Syria, "playing right into Russia's hand."

He "wouldn't stand up" against Russian president Vladimir Putin following the bounty controversy, igniting violent and tense confrontations between US and Russian troops, according to the ad.

"His weakness emboldens the enemy," the ad says. "Now Russia is directly engaging US troops."
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 07:52

Sep 5, 2020 -- 7:00AM, cooperman wrote:


VoteVets ad follows another military-focussed ad from Republican Voters Against Trump, which featured several Republican veterans speaking out against the president in support of his opponent. The ad aired on Fox News during the week of the Republican National Convention.Dozens of national security officials who worked in four Republican administrations also have supported the former vice president in a platform released by Republican Voters Against Trump."Our troops are in more danger today because of Donald Trump's betrayals," the VoteVets ad says, claiming that the president "abandoned" Kurdish allies in Syria, "playing right into Russia's hand."He "wouldn't stand up" against Russian president Vladimir Putin following the bounty controversy, igniting violent and tense confrontations between US and Russian troops, according to the ad."His weakness emboldens the enemy," the ad says. "Now Russia is directly engaging US troops."


HAHA WALOFS WAC

By:
politicspunter
When: 05 Sep 20 08:43
From the bbc...

Trump panned over reports he called US war dead 'losers'

US President Donald Trump is facing a backlash over reports he mocked American soldiers killed in action as "losers" and "suckers".

The alleged remarks were first reported in the Atlantic magazine, and some details were corroborated by the Associated Press and Fox News.

But the president and his allies have denied he made the remarks.

Veterans' groups were among those who attacked the president over the reports.

Progressive group VoteVets posted a video of families whose children were killed in action. "You don't know what it is to sacrifice," says one.

Paul Rieckhoff of the Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America, tweeted: "Who is really surprised by this?"

Analysts say the comments could prove damaging with the president needing support from military voters as he bids for re-election.

What is Trump reported to have said?
According to The Atlantic, Mr Trump cancelled a visit to a US cemetery outside Paris in 2018 because he said it was "filled with losers".

Four sources told the magazine he rejected the idea of visiting because the rain would dishevel his hair, and he did not believe it important to honour America's war dead.

During the same trip, the president also allegedly referred to 1,800 US soldiers who died at Belleau Wood as "suckers". The battle helped to prevent a German advance on Paris during World War One and is venerated by the US Marine Corps.

In 2018 the White House said the visit was cancelled because bad weather had grounded the president's helicopter. This account was backed up in a recent book by President Trump's former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who has been a vocal critic of Mr Trump.

The Atlantic's reporting was based on anonymous sources but the Associated Press said it had independently confirmed many of the remarks. A Fox News correspondent said she had corroborated some of the remarks.

What has the reaction been?
On top of the comments from veterans, President Trump's challenger in November's presidential election, Joe Biden, responded by saying his rival was "unfit" to lead.

"If the article is true - and it appears to be, based on other things he's said - it is absolutely damning. It is a disgrace."

Democratic Senator Tammy Duckworth, a veteran who lost both legs while serving in Iraq, said President Trump "liked to use the US military for his own ego".

Khizr Khan, the father of a US soldier killed in Iraq who criticised Mr Trump during the 2016 Democratic convention, joined Ms Duckworth on the call.

He said: "When Donald Trump calls anyone who places their lives in service of others a loser, we understand Trump's soul."

How is the White House fighting the story?

President Trump has pushed back hard against the reports, calling them "fake news".

"To think that I would make statements negative to our military and our fallen heroes when nobody's done what I've done with the budgets, with the military budgets, with getting pay raises for our military," he said. "It is a disgraceful situation by a magazine that's a terrible magazine."

Speaking to reporters on Friday, he suggested the source of the story was his former White House chief of staff, John Kelly. Mr Trump said the former US Marine general "was unable to handle the pressure of this job".

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Fox News on Friday morning he was with the president for a good part of the trip to France and never heard him use the words described in the article.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper was quoted by Politico as saying Mr Trump had "the highest respect and admiration for our nation's military members, veterans and families", though the Pentagon chief did not explicitly deny the story.

Another former White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, and former press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders were among those in Mr Trump's orbit who rejected the story as false.

Where do Trump and the US military stand?
The US president has often staked claim to strong support among the military, and Pew Research Center last year found that veterans were generally supportive of him as commander-in-chief, with 57% in favour. Three-fifths of the veterans identified as Republican, the research found.

But there have been previous spats and controversies.

He caused outrage by saying the late Senator John McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam, was not a "war hero" saying: "I like people who weren't captured."

President Trump has never served in uniform. He received five deferments from a military draft during the Vietnam War - four for academic reasons and one for bone spurs, a calcium build-up in the heels.
By:
cooperman
When: 05 Sep 20 09:18
Laugh Remember his Iraq visit? He couldn't handle the plane landing because they turned all the lights off and poor little donny was in the dark.
By:
politicspunter
When: 05 Sep 20 10:14
Now Trump is saying he even phoned Melania back in Washington to say how disappointed he was that he couldn’t go to the military cemetery outside of Paris. In fact, Melania was with him in Paris. He just made up his alibi.
By:
politicspunter
When: 05 Sep 20 10:25
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden

Look down at some of the very powerful video regarding Trump disparaging American troops. This story could be real trouble for Trump.
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 10:58
Anybody in the army who votes for Geriatric joe must be thick as pig sh1t
Defund the police quickly moves to defund the army and the veterans
Got to make money available for all the scumbags who want free money for the rest of their lives
By:
Fatslogger
When: 05 Sep 20 11:06
Except Biden doesn’t actually want to defund the police. We’ve been through this at some length with tim.
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 11:21
Biden is an empty vessel, he hasn't got a clue where he is, never mind make serious policy decisions.  He was on tv talking about defunding the police, as he was reading off another prompter.
He wasn't the smartest 30 years ago and now he's a complete dummy
By:
GAZO
When: 05 Sep 20 11:28
swap scumbags for bankers and you have both party's policys
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 11:36

Sep 5, 2020 -- 11:28AM, GAZO wrote:


swap scumbags for bankers and you have both party's policys


Thanks to Obama the bankers now have free reign to gamble to their heart's content
'Too big to fail' was a terrible policy decision
Allowing banks to move away from mark to market was another disastrous move

By:
GAZO
When: 05 Sep 20 11:41
so trump didnt beg the fed to drop interest rates to negative and start QE whatever,who do you think that helps
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 05 Sep 20 11:49
Very early to be getting the big guns out.

2 months to go.


Maybe trump meant ex wife he phoned, or future wife....
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 11:53

Sep 5, 2020 -- 11:41AM, GAZO wrote:


so trump didnt beg the fed to drop interest rates to negative and start QE whatever,who do you think that helps


The bankers always win.
They literally can't lose

By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 12:02
The support for Trump from Blacks and Latinos is absolutely skyrocketing!!

LANDSLIDE INCOMING
By:
dave1357
When: 05 Sep 20 12:16

Sep 5, 2020 -- 11:36AM, jucel69 wrote:


Sep  5, 2020 -- 11:28AM, GAZO wrote:swap scumbags for bankers and you have both party's policysThanks to Obama the bankers now have free reign to gamble to their heart's content 'Too big to fail' was a terrible policy decisionAllowing banks to move away from mark to market was another disastrous move


So Leamans didn't go bankrupt?

By:
dave1357
When: 05 Sep 20 12:20
ok withdraw lehmans filed before obama took office
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 12:20
Yeh that was before the policy
By:
jucel69
When: 05 Sep 20 12:21
You can have free market capitalism and too big to fail
It's madness
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