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timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 14:59
Lies, damned lies and the truth about Joe Biden

Nancy Pelosi dismissed Tara Reade’s accusations of sexual assault against Joe Biden. “I know him,” said the House Speaker authoritatively, and that was that.
Does Biden’s record warrant such confidence? Not really. In fact, Biden has a long history of lying — about himself, about his past and about events that never took place.

Democrats want the 2020 campaign to be a referendum on President Trump. Fine, but if this is to be a contest of characters, it is only appropriate that Joe Biden’s history of fabrication and deceit – often intended to bolster his intellectual credentials – also be fair game.

Over the past year, Biden thundered that the Obama administration “didn’t lock people up in cages.” He also claimed that, “Immediately, the moment [the Iraq War] started, I came out against it.” And… “I was always labeled one of the most liberal members of Congress.” Politico’s rating of all three assertions? False.

No one should be surprised. Lest we forget…

A video is making the rounds in which Biden boasts at a 1987 rally, "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship…[and] ended up in the top half of my class."

Biden also maintained that he "graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school" and was the “outstanding student in the political science department.”

Not one of those claims was true, as newscasters at the time affirmed. In fact, Biden graduated 76th of 85 students in his law school class, had only a partial scholarship and did not win top honors in his undergraduate discipline.

Biden explained in his 2007 autobiography “Promises to Keep” that he had been angry at that rally since “it sounded to me that one of my own supporters doubted my intelligence." According to a 1987 Newsweek piece, a supporter had “politely” asked Biden what law school he attended and how well he had done.
Biden bristled, saying “I think I have a much higher IQ than you do,” reeled off his fabricated accomplishments and concluded “I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank.”

The episode reminds us of Biden recently snapping “You’re full of sh*t” at an auto worker who dared to challenge Biden’s stance on guns; or calling an Iowa voter a “damn liar” for insinuating that Biden had helped his son gain access in Ukraine.

The Newsweek reporter wrote that Biden appears “hyper, glib and intellectually insecure,” and says the 1987 encounter was critical to understanding why Biden’s first run at higher office flopped. “The clip…reflects a view of Biden's character widely shared in the community. Reporters and political consultants long ago concluded that Biden's chief character flaw was his tendency to wing it. He seems to lack a crucial synapse between brain and tongue, the one that makes the do-I-really-want-to-say-this decision.”

That commentary holds up well, as today more than ever Biden blunders into conversational crevasses, with no way out. (Think: "If they believe Tara Reade, they probably shouldn't vote for me.” A new Harvard-Harris poll shows 55 percent of the country believes Tara Reade. Game. Set. Match.)

Biden’s 1987 campaign foundered also because he was caught lifting passages of a speech given by Neil Kinnock. Biden echoed (falsely) the British Labor leader’s history that he was the first "in a thousand generations" to graduate from college and repeated virtually verbatim the same story about his wife, just as Kinnock had. 

More shocking, Biden claimed: “My ancestors…worked in the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours,’’ even though no one in Biden’s family tree ever worked underground. That was Kinnock’s family.

It wasn’t the first time; Biden had also been caught plagiarizing during law school. He “borrowed” an entire five pages from a published law review article without attribution and had to beg not to be expelled. 

Interestingly, just last summer complaints arose about Biden “borrowing” the work of others, in putting together his climate plan. As Vox reported, Biden’s plan “contains a number of passages that seem to have been copied and pasted, at times with very superficial changes” from a variety of sources.

Biden supporters will dismiss these episodes as being in the distant past. But Biden’s tendency to mislead did not expire in 1988. More recently, the former vice president has told audiences that after his stint in the White House, “I became a teacher. I became a professor.” While it is true that he took a lofty salary to make a handful of speeches for the University of Pennsylvania, Biden has never taught students.

Then there was the inspiring tale of visiting Afghanistan to honor a heroic naval officer. Biden described the officer’s actions in detail, adding, “This is God’s truth, my word as a Biden.” But according to a review in the Washington Post, no such incident occurred. Biden was lucky not to be hit by lightning.

There were also Biden’s claims of having been arrested in the 1970s because he tried to visit Nelson Mandela in prison. Nope, didn’t happen. He has also cast himself as a civil rights activist and co-sponsor of the Endangered Species Act; those things aren’t true either.

Character does not change. Biden’s winning smile and genial nature have granted him license to mislead. But as Biden denies alleged misdeeds related to General Flynn, to his son Hunter’s involvement in Ukraine or to Tara Reade, his history of bending the truth is informative.


Democrats will counter that President Trump frequently exaggerates and embellishes, which is true. But we know Trump; he has been on the griddle for nearly four years, and been continually stripped and flayed by a hostile press.
Many of us are just getting to know Joe Biden.


A few more examples;


https://shaunking.substack.com/p/2-truths-and-31-lies-joe-biden-has

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciXaP26TJBg
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 15:03
So despite a long post and two videos, including one Youtube video which you don't watch, where is the evidence of him saying he will defund the police?
By:
dave1357
When: 02 Sep 20 15:03
^ha ha - trump's entire life is based on fraud and cheating to dupe mugs like timmeh.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 15:16
Charlie, enjoy your time as the last man standing who is so blindly and obediently loyal to the party line as to still be trying to pretend that joe`s `redirect` isn`t defunding. Fortunately for the world, American voters have joe well and truly rumbled.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 15:17
So no evidence whatsoever being offered. CHORTLE!!!
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 15:19
Charlie • August 29, 2020 8:51 AM BST
timbuctooth
You do seem to like telling porkies.

It started with
aaronh 25 Aug 20 22:12
in response to defund the police, Biden said he wants to in fact increase funding
knowing this to be untrue,

Biden has stated many times he has no intention of defunding the police and does in fact want to increase spending:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-biden-trump-rival-defund-police/story?id=72554629
So aaronh was correct and you are, yet again, wrong.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 15:50
joe stated that he would redirect police funds, making me right. Has he flip flopped since? Who knows with such a liar?

While we`re talking about joe`s qualities and virtues, just the first few seconds of this vt, with him calling black people the `n` word, (twice!) tells you all you need to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPUFwmZN9eo
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 02 Sep 20 15:54
Biden: redirect police funds
Harris: rethink how we do policing

Like with fracking they are not offering one thing or another. They have to appease the hard left whilst trying to win centre ground votes.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 02 Sep 20 16:10
What I struggle to remotely understand is why some people like Trump.

Aside from his lies (is he passed the 13,000 since  he lost the popular vote to Hillary?); he is a multiple bankrupt. He would have been bankrupt again but for financial aid from the Ex KGB men of Putin too. He is an odious racist. He was recorded boasting about how he liked grabbing young girls by the pussssy - how would you like it if it was your daughter he groped? He is defending racist murderers and refuses to condemn the KKK activists. He advised people to imbibe bleach and said that if you stop testing for covid the virus will disappear. He is an utter oaf and nasty with it.

If Trump had a few more brains he would be a dimwit.

So what is it that makes people on a british betting chat room so keen on worshipping the goon?

I really struggle to understand why anyone can stand him. He is evil, stupid, useless with money obviously, a self confessed abuser of his fame and power and a horrible bozo and bully.

What exactly is there to like?
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:11

Sep 2, 2020 -- 3:50PM, timbuctooth wrote:


joe stated that he would redirect police funds, making me right. Has he flip flopped since? Who knows with such a liar?While we`re talking about joe`s qualities and virtues, just the first few seconds of this vt, with him calling black people the `n` word, (twice!) tells you all you need to know.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPUFwmZN9eo


timbuctooth
Where is the evidence to say that Biden wants to defund the police? I've asked you so many times and all you do is deflect. Let's state the simple truth: you have no evidence. You have made it up. In short you were not telling the truth.

By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:12

Sep 2, 2020 -- 3:54PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Biden: redirect police fundsHarris: rethink how we do policingLike with fracking they are not offering one thing or another. They have to appease the hard left whilst trying to win centre ground votes.


So are you saying that Biden intends to defund the police?

By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:15

Sep 2, 2020 -- 4:10PM, cryoftruth wrote:


What I struggle to remotely understand is why some people like Trump.Aside from his lies (is he passed the 13,000 since

By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:16
I'll try again
A very good post and I have no idea why anybody would vote for him or even like him.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:27
For those confused about redirecting funds. Imagine a budget where the PM, President (it's not import who) decide they will increase the defence budget from one billion to two billion; to be split equally between navy, army and air force. They then decide to change the split to a half navy and a quarter each for army and air force. That is not a defunding of the defence budget it is redirecting where it should go.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 16:29

Sep 2, 2020 -- 12:32AM, timbuctooth wrote:


An hour and a half later, yet no response from pp/fs? How unusual, they`re normally refuting anything they disagree with in just minutes! I wonder are they reading back through everything, disbelieving that they so crassly walked into the trap, beginning to have that awful moment of realisation as the facts and truth hit them in the face? The sheer horror they`re currently feeling, knowing they`re FINNISHED, even their comrades see the truth? That they`re LIARS!!!


Initially I thought acknowledging this kind of deranged behaviour by dignifying it with a comment was a bad idea. But on reflection, it seems unfair for you to have put such a massive amount of trouble into constructing what you thought was a clever trap, or into making it look like that’s what you’d done after the event, without at least having someone tell you how crazy it makes you look. Either you lied about the loss on the market or you deliberately and dishonestly promoted the idea that you had. Either way that makes you, err, a liar. As does all the other lying you do, although to be fair, I suspect at least a lot of that is that you really are deluded enough to believe what you say.

I’m just going to post this on the one thread and not use any extra capital letters, if that’s okay with you.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 16:33

Sep 2, 2020 -- 4:27PM, Charlie wrote:


For those confused about redirecting funds. Imagine a budget where the PM, President (it's not import who) decide they will increase the defence budget from one billion to two billion; to be split equally between navy, army and air force. They then decide to change the split to a half navy and a quarter each for army and air force. That is not a defunding of the defence budget it is redirecting where it should go.


Like me Charlie, you’re wasting your electrons here. This has been explained at painful length to Tim (along with the importance of using proper sources and knowing which video it is you’ve linked to). He won’t get it.

By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 16:34
Interviewer; `...We can redirect some of the funding for police into social services, mental health counseling and affordable housing...are you open to that kind of reform?`

joe; `Yes! I proposed that kind of reform!!!`

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIPXpdeia8
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:39
Ha, ha, ha. CHORTLE!!! Watch the video and understand it which appears to be beyond your comprehension.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 16:39
`...Either you lied about the loss on the market or you deliberately and dishonestly promoted the idea that you had...`

Show the forum where I lied about my loss, or shut up.
Show the forum where I promoted the idea I`d lost, or shut up.
By:
DanielKoellerer
When: 02 Sep 20 16:41
Is Timmeh still going on about being wiped out in the VP market?!! Zzzzzz

MOVE ON !!
By:
politicspunter
When: 02 Sep 20 16:45
It was actually the Democrat Nominee market he was wiped out on. He even posted his losing bets, where he lost roughly £2.5K but claimed again and again that he had won.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 02 Sep 20 16:47
Considering you have blocked Tim why are you making up lies about him?
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 16:47
CHORTLE at the fully exposed and discredited lying hyenas!!!
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 16:52

Sep 2, 2020 -- 4:39PM, timbuctooth wrote:


`...Either you lied about the loss on the market or you deliberately and dishonestly promoted the idea that you had...`Show the forum where I lied about my loss, or shut up.Show the forum where I promoted the idea I`d lost, or shut up.


I mean, this is embarrassingly basic. It’s all in your very long post above. I can appreciate why most people won’t have read it but I had assumed it at least vaguely passed through your brain on the way out. Or is the problem here that you don’t understand the word “either”?

By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 16:56
Put up or shut up, you`re boring everyone. Yet again.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 16:58
timbuctooth
From your beloved video:

"Instead of sending two police officers with deadly weapons to that Wendy's drive thru in Atlanta we could have sent a wellness counsellor and a tow-truck and then Rayshard Brooks would still be alive today. And his three daughters would still have their daddy. Are you open to that kind of reform?" "Biden Yes" ...


That is nothing to do with defunding the police. You are either dim, don't understand what a conversation is, or both.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 17:14
Unbelievable!!!
Why have you left out the first sentence, that comes immediately before your quote? Does Google not show lefties that first bit? Here it is, then;

Interviewer; `We can reduce the responsibilities assigned to the police, and redirect some of the funding for police into social services, mental health counseling and affordable housing. So, for example,
nstead of sending two police officers with deadly weapons to that Wendy's drive thru in Atlanta we could have sent a wellness counsellor and a tow-truck and then Rayshard Brooks would still be alive today. And his three daughters would still have their daddy. Are you open to that kind of reform?`

joe; `Yes! I proposed that kind of reform!!!`
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 17:16
How do you `redirect some of the funding for police into social services, mental health counseling and affordable housing` without defunding, please?
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 17:19
I'll repeat you do not understand a conversation. Most normal people do but you don't. Watch the video, watch the breaks in the video, watch the questions asked in the video. Take your blinkers off you may be able to see better.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 17:22

Sep 2, 2020 -- 4:56PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Put up or shut up, you`re boring everyone. Yet again.


You’re the guy who posted a million line rant across the whole forum, not me! Also, I did put up. It’s not my fault you didn’t understand either my post or your own, or both.

By:
dave1357
When: 02 Sep 20 18:21

Sep 2, 2020 -- 4:34PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Interviewer; `...We can redirect some of the funding for police into social services, mental health counseling and affordable housing...are you open to that kind of reform?`joe; `Yes! I proposed that kind of reform!!!`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIPXpdeia8


once again timmy reposts republican lies

Why do the right wing have to lie all the time?

By:
dave1357
When: 02 Sep 20 18:24
"These are not my words," Barkan said in a tweet asking Scalise to remove the video and apologize to the disability community. "I have lost my ability to speak, but not my agency or my thoughts. You and your team have doctored my words for your own political gain."

The GOP are simply filth.  And timmeh loves them.
By:
dave1357
When: 02 Sep 20 18:25
For those that don't know the background

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/31/steve-scalise/house-republicans-video-manipulates-activists-comp/

House Republican’s video manipulates activist’s computerized voice to attack Biden
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 19:05
Thanks Dave. Was obvious from context that Biden wasn’t in favour of defunding but helpful to have chapter and verse on how dishonest people manipulate the credulous.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 02 Sep 20 19:20
Oh dear, boys, you`re getting your quotes mixed up! Yet again, here`s the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIPXpdeia8

Early in it, you can see that every word I have posted about joe defunding is true, every word accurate. Then, LATER!!!, they go back to it, and it`s this part of the interview that was wrongly edited!

Oh, these leftie boys, they do provide some fun!

CHORTLE! CHORTLE!! CHORTLE!!!
By:
peckerdunne
When: 02 Sep 20 19:21
Still over 1100 dead yesterday, it hasn't just gone away.
By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 19:23

Sep 2, 2020 -- 7:20PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Oh dear, boys, you`re getting your quotes mixed up! Yet again, here`s the linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIPXpdeia8Early in it, you can see that every word I have posted about joe defunding is true, every word accurate. Then, LATER!!!, they go back to it, and it`s this part of the interview that was wrongly edited!Oh, these leftie boys, they do provide some fun!CHORTLE! CHORTLE!! CHORTLE!!!


Let me be the first to quote this. You keep repeating the same old sh!te. You do not understand what is being said. A complete braindead right whinger. CHORTLE! CHORTLE!! CHORTLE!!! SNORT!

By:
Charlie
When: 02 Sep 20 19:25
I have never ever met anyone nailing his colours to the mast on such a dubious stance.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Sep 20 19:38

Sep 2, 2020 -- 7:25PM, Charlie wrote:


I have never ever met anyone nailing his colours to the mast on such a dubious stance.


It’s all totally in character with the conspiracy theorist mentality he manifests. There’s an obsessive focus on small details that apparently support his views (even when, as here, they really don’t), at the expense of any kind of appreciation of the broader picture. As I said to him a while back, there’s an interesting conversation to be had about that Biden interview if it’s not with a deluded liar. It’s revealing that Barkan was disappointed that Biden wouldn’t back police defunding or Medicare for all. Personally I think there’s a strong policy case for both but in terms of political positioning and of course, Biden’s centrist credentials, his stances make sense. The notion that he’s suddenly going to change his long term views, including those espoused at length while running for nominee, because of the not terrible powerful left of the Democrats, manifestly fails the plausibility test to anyone who follows Democrat politics without being sent into transports of rage that people at least to the left of stark staring insanely right wing exist.

By:
cryoftruth
When: 02 Sep 20 19:49
What I struggle to remotely understand is why some people like Trump.

Aside from his lies (is he passed the 13,000 since  he lost the popular vote to Hillary?); he is a multiple bankrupt. He would have been bankrupt again but for financial aid from the Ex KGB men of Putin too. He is an odious racist. He was recorded boasting about how he liked grabbing young girls by the pussssy - how would you like it if it was your daughter he groped? He is defending racist murderers and refuses to condemn the KKK activists. He advised people to imbibe bleach and said that if you stop testing for covid the virus will disappear. He is an utter oaf and nasty with it.

If Trump had a few more brains he would be a dimwit.

So what is it that makes people on a british betting chat room so keen on worshipping the goon?

I really struggle to understand why anyone can stand him. He is evil, stupid, useless with money obviously, a self confessed abuser of his fame and power and a horrible bozo and bully.

What exactly is there to like?

Having read some of the less literate or articulate contributions of those who are regular damp trumpers I understand a bit better now.

The damp trumpers do not leave skid marks behind them because of their rapid wit and intellect. The blatant lies like, “go home black woman” as trump said to a 7th generation American journalist appeal to people who are cerebrally compromised.
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