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By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 17:27
yeah and even if they all involved a thousand votes (which they don't - many are ineligible voting ie one vote) it would be utterly negligible given the billions of votes cast over the last 20 years.
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Aug 20 17:33
Deary me I never thought the corruption was so bad , can we not finger print the Dems before they vote ?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 17:33

Aug 15, 2020 -- 5:09PM, Jack Bauer '24' wrote:


They are desperate as they realise the long term demographics of the country are moving against them so they will go to any lengths to retain power for as long as possible to pack the courts with right-wingers and so on, to try and prevent progressive future change for as long as possible.


Definitely. Trump knows he has lost. Now his Republican supporters in government have to devise a plan to try and win the election corruptly. So far, it has taken the form first of all of removing hundreds of polling stations in poor/black areas and others who traditionally vote democrat. Next is to remove as many folks as possible off the ballots that may vote democrat. If the remaining poor/black folks make it to the few polling stations remaining within their area, try every delaying tactic possible to ensure they queue for hours and hopefully just go home. If it's a democrat area with high mail in ballots, simply start removing the counting machines at the mail offices. All of these options are currently being carried out by the party of Trump. You can be certain other corrupt options will be tried.

By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 17:38
You want sheer numbers? Ok, how about 14 MILLION??? Did you not see that in one of the links I posted above?

More than 16M mail-in ballots went missing from 2016 and 2018 elections: Report
By Washington Examiner, April 11, 2020:

Roughly 16 million mail-in ballots ended up missing in the 2016 and 2018 elections, according to federal data.Data from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission and the Election Administration and Voting Surveys for both the 2016 and 2018 elections show that 16.4 million ballots that were sent to registered voters by mail went missing, according to Breitbart News.

In the 2018 election, about 42.4 million ballots were mailed to registered voters. Of those mailed, more than 1 million were undeliverable, more than 430,000 were rejected, and nearly 10.5 million went missing.
By:
lfc1971
When: 15 Aug 20 17:38
After the polls close I notice the Dems always manage to ‘ find’ a few more votes
somethings not right, when are they going to stop selling their soul to win at all costs Sad
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 17:45

Aug 15, 2020 -- 5:33PM, politicspunter wrote:


Aug 15, 2020 --  5:09PM, Jack Bauer '24' wrote:They are desperate as they realise the long term demographics of the country are moving against them so they will go to any lengths to retain power for as long as possible to pack the courts with right-wingers and so on, to try and prevent progressive future change for as long as possible.Definitely. Trump knows he has lost. Now his Republican supporters in government have to devise a plan to try and win the election corruptly. So far, it has taken the form first of all of removing hundreds of polling stations in poor/black areas and others who traditionally vote democrat. Next is to remove as many folks as possible off the ballots that may vote democrat. If the remaining poor/black folks make it to the few polling stations remaining within their area, try every delaying tactic possible to ensure they queue for hours and hopefully just go home. If it's a democrat area with high mail in ballots, simply start removing the counting machines at the mail offices. All of these options are currently being carried out by the party of Trump. You can be certain other corrupt options will be tried.


If you are so sure that 'Trump knows he has lost' why still no bet opposing him at 2.58 on here?

By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 17:49
^^^what's missing is your brain.  If people choose not to vote, how can you term the ballot as missing?  I didn't see you skweeming that 100m+ voters went missing in the 2016 election.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 18:00
My `14million`^^^ should be `16 m`!


Because, from a few lines further down the same link,

`...“These represent 16 million opportunities for someone to cheat,” Adams said. “Absentee ballot fraud is the most common, the most expensive to investigate, and can never be reversed after an election.
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 18:04
rofl next the gop will ban voting altogether as "every opportunity to vote is an opportunity to cheat".

None of the 16m ballots were used to cheat - they weren't used at all.

Are you really as stupid as you make out?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 18:16

Aug 15, 2020 -- 6:04PM, dave1357 wrote:


rofl next the gop will ban voting altogether as "every opportunity to vote is an opportunity to cheat".None of the 16m ballots were used to cheat - they weren't used at all.Are you really as stupid as you make out?


Tim isn't in all seriousness suggesting that unused ballots were used for cheating Laugh

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 18:17

Aug 15, 2020 -- 6:04PM, dave1357 wrote:


rofl next the gop will ban voting altogether as "every opportunity to vote is an opportunity to cheat".None of the 16m ballots were used to cheat - they weren't used at all.Are you really as stupid as you make out?


Dave what do you reckon they should do about the 10%-20% of ballots that will arrive after election day if they push the mail-in voting to the levels they want?

By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 18:17
Oh, and were they all used for cheating by the Democratic Party by chance?Grin
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 18:19
You`re deflecting; 16m MISSING votes means 16m opportunities to cheat, that`s the point!

And here`s another 587,000, just from last week!

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/08/15/chesterfield-voters-included-erroneous-absentee-ballot-applications/

As The Don so correctly points out, why leave such opportunities for dems (sorry, `anybody`!) to cheat? Only lefties are demanding it, why is that? I think we all know the answer, don`t we!
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 18:21
Lol, maybe the Republican fraud group in North Carolina have them allLaugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 18:23
Now there's a thing, North Carolina is a battleground state. I wonder if the Republican voting fraud team are going to be employed there again?
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 18:30
^^ so why is trump creating "opportunities to cheat" by using absentee ballots?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:05

Aug 15, 2020 -- 6:30PM, dave1357 wrote:


^^ so why is trump creating "opportunities to cheat" by using absentee ballots?


Absentee ballots have been used for decades as have mail-in in the North-West.

The issue here is suddenly doing millions of mail-in votes with no checks.

It have been tried in the last few months due to the China Virus and there have been major problems even with used on a small scale.

10%-20% of votes have had to be voided.

How do the mail-in fanatics deal with that if it happens at a national level?

By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:11
what's the china virus?
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:16
and don't tell me what timmeh "thinks" the issue is that he said 16m absentee ballots went "missing".  He said that was 16m "opportunities to cheat".  I'm waiting for him to explain why trump is creating an opportunity to cheat.

also you still haven't answered why you want covid to spread amongst the elderly and sheltering due to crowded voting sationd.
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:17
* crowded voting stations
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:18

Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:11PM, dave1357 wrote:


what's the china virus?


The Chinese/Wuhan Coronavirus.

Have you not heard of it?

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:20

Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:17PM, dave1357 wrote:


* crowded voting stations


They can apply for an absentee ballot in the usual way.

Big difference between that and sending everyone a mail-in ballot.

Whats the problem?

By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 19:21
dave1357 15 Aug 20 19:16 
`... I'm waiting for him to explain why trump is creating an opportunity to cheat.

I didn`t know he was, explain please?
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:21
ok say you were using trump's racist trope
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:23
Are you a racist insider trader? - I noticed that your attitude to covid changed around about the time that it was discovered that the virus disproportionately affected minorities.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 19:24
InsiderTrader 15 Aug 20 19:20 
Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:17PM, dave1357 wrote: * crowded voting stations
They can apply for an absentee ballot in the usual way.
Big difference between that and sending everyone a mail-in ballot.
Whats the problem?

I think dave`s problem is he`s unaware of the difference between `mail-in` and `absentee`.
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:25
in the doc you linked, none of the 1000+ crimes detailed concern "mail in" ballots.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:26

Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:23PM, dave1357 wrote:


Are you a racist insider trader? - I noticed that your attitude to covid changed around about the time that it was discovered that the virus disproportionately affected minorities.


No I am not a racist.

Why on earth do you even have to ask something like that?

Absurd and deeply offensive question.

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:27

Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:23PM, dave1357 wrote:


Are you a racist insider trader? - I noticed that your attitude to covid changed around about the time that it was discovered that the virus disproportionately affected minorities.


What are you talking about here?

By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:28
but you, in this thread just used the racist trope "china virus"?  I think that's grounds for the question.  Perhaps you should stop making racist comments?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:32
Why is it racist to say that?

Is it racist to say 'Chinese virus' or 'Wuhan virus'?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:33
'Spanish Flu' is that racist?
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:35
If you don'y understand why calling Covid 19 the "Chinese virus" is racist, you probably should go on a racist awareness course.

Anyway back to timmeh

timmeh said that 16m "missing" absentee ballots were "16m opportunities to cheat".  He hasn't explained why trump using an absentee ballot isn't creating an "opportunity to cheat"
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:37
^^Well as that flu likely originated in the usa, it probably was.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 19:42
German Measles
Ebola
Lyme disease
MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome)
etc
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Aug 20 19:45
why is trump creating an "opportunity to cheat", timmeh?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 19:46
The only person I know who describes it as China virus is Trump as a pathetic effort to deflect from his appalling record on the pandemic within the USA.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Aug 20 19:46
dave1357 15 Aug 20 19:35 
timmeh said that 16m "missing" absentee ballots were "16m opportunities to cheat".  He hasn't explained why trump using an absentee ballot isn't creating an "opportunity to cheat"

All postal votes, mail-in or absentee, create opportunities for fraud. For the second time today, lefties destroy their own case!
So, now that we`ve established that dodgy things happen, why do it???
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 15 Aug 20 19:47

Aug 15, 2020 -- 7:35PM, dave1357 wrote:


If you don'y understand why calling Covid 19 the "Chinese virus" is racist, you probably should go on a racist awareness course.Anyway back to timmehtimmeh said that 16m "missing" absentee ballots were "16m opportunities to cheat".  He hasn't explained why trump using an absentee ballot isn't creating an "opportunity to cheat"


Dave did your course say it was NOT racist to say 'Chinese Virus' but is racist to say 'China Virus'?

By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Aug 20 19:54
172K deaths from Covid, 2.4 million active cases..and rising. Opinion polls name this as the top reason for concern in USA voters.
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