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47 tourneys, $48 profit, this is probably where you want to be. Keep it up ben
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13 more games played
Starting bank $650 Previous bank $864 Current bank $890 Total stts played - 969 Total cash hands played - 1,009 |
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what a fing waste of time......get a job son and get on with it.
you would have made $150 flipping burgers by now..idiot |
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Had a little think about this today and decided i cant make it justifiable to play these. Even with volume and hours put in the variance is so so long term. Im currently at something like an hourly rate of $1. Which for somebody who has no other income is a total waste of time. My cashgame hourly rates are significantly higher than this. I propose a fulltime switch to 25 nl6max. with 50,000 hands to complete the staking period. If you dont want me to do this, i will refund all stakes + whatever it is your % works out at. Ill leave it a few hours to let you decide. Todays stats, 76 games played, total load of **.
Starting bank $650 Previous bank $890 Current bank $809 Total stts played - 1,043 Total cash hands played - 1,009 |
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cash defo a good idea
need to run very bad to lose |
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Either way i dont mind, Ive personally made $80 in a month and obv cant justify this, especially the mind numbing hours i have put in. If you guys just wana call it a day now then ill ship back and take my $80 to 2-4 :)
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Woohoo ive made 16$ but your only 13% of the way through so I'm on target for 123$.
I dont like quitters but if yr win rate is higher at cash then go for it ;) |
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I hate quitting but i hardly have much choice mate i cant make $1 p/h and keep my sanity!
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Engy, Itchy and kaka up to you boys...
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it's not really quitting
it's just choosing to make better use of your time i'm pretty sure there are far worse players at the cash tables than stts etc who wants to gamble in an stt |
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This isn't really about the hourly rate though, is it? It's about you proving to yourself and others that you have the discipline to see it out. Presumably that's why you needed the staking in the first place. Soul destroying it may be, but surely that's why you have to complete it.
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he's not doing it for credibility lol
he's doing it for money and he hasn't lost anything so not chasing people's losses |
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if you were depserate for a job, offered one, but it turned out they could only pay you a quid an hour, you wouldn't carry on to show you had discipline
it was just show you were stupid |
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so he is now going to play cash ( forgive me dont know much about poker) but looking his posts on this thread one of 1st things he says he didnt want to play cash games as he tilts too easy on them
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I think multi tabling is the way forward for me as i can fight variance quicker and make my graph go diagonal rather thaan new york skyline. Pretty confident i could play NLH without tilting but guess thats up to the stakees to decide
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OK, if you reckon you can turn something decent, profit-wise, at 25nl then I'm game.
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Ok cool itchy. We can just see how it goes, if its not working then we can stop, or revert back to stts or whatever. Pretty confident though.
Just need kaka and Engy to give their blessing |
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just play like a rock lol
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ok by me ben
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Had an ok session but im on crazy mega tilt cos my holdem manager has just exploded along with all my pokerstars hand historys. Havent got a clue how many hands i played in tonights session. About 3 hours worth so id guess 1,000. Tried checking pokertableratings but that just gives a load of **t data. Emailed stars and holdem manager to try and get it sorted.
Starting bank $650 Previous bank $809 Current bank $868 Total stts played - 1,043 Total cash hands played - 2,000 |
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Pretty good session so far today. Cleared my first 'stellar bonus' of $10, i will include this in the totals. 2,328 hands since the last update. Back in the thousands now again, (Well $999.80 but i rounded it up) so hopefully can keep my head above $1k til the challenge is complete
Starting bank $650 Previous bank $868 Current bank $1,000 Total stts played - 1,043 Total cash hands played - 4,328 |
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Good job!
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well done, keep it up
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Terrible evening and night session tonight, went down 6 buyins in what seemed like 30 seconds and just struggled thereafter. Ran 2 boats into quads and KK into AA in the blinds. Marv.
Starting bank $650 Previous bank $1,000 Current bank $864 Total stts played - 1,043 Total cash hands played - 5,586 |
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So you have played how many hands and how many hours for $240?!! Once you give money back to your stakers you would keep how much for yourself - maybe $50? For hundreds of hours, sweat & stress?!
Forgive me but what is the point, you would make more standing outside Waterloo train station with a cup in your hand and a flea bitten dog on a piece of string. Sropusly with no bankroll and no forseeable prospect of earning a living wage you have to consider giving this up for your own sake. Sotty to be grim about it but I can see no alternative. Anyway, good luck. |
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Wouldn't surpise me if your backers arnt thinking that it was a waste of time backing you, i can see you making profit if you borrowed $650 of someone and asked to pay them to pay them back in 6 months time and u give them an extra $100-$150 back, you can easily turn $650+ rake back into $10k+ within this time. why on earth u ask for backers for just $650 is beyond me (are your friends and family tired of you always asking them to lend you any money for gambling?).
It's obvious to me you havn't got 2 pennies to rub together to bankroll yourself because your a degenerate gambler and you blew all your own money and now your skint. If i didin't know anyone in the world i could get a credit card for £6K and easily double or triple that in 6 months and pay off initial £6k back to the credit card provider, your credit scoring must be so poor you rinsed all your available credit already and no one will touch you now and your last resort was to ask in the forum, i would say this is probably 95% of the truth, if you got a problem with gambling don't get others involved. |
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Cheers for the concern Charwell but its really for me to learn a bit more discipline and try and become a fulltime grinder. By the end of the staking period i'm pretty sure it will be at least semi worthwhile
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These sort of challenges are definitely worth doing and you can learn lots of good habits from them imo.
Keep going and good luck. |
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Challenge...what challenge?
he came on for staking to play 8000 45man STT. He did a few hundred, got fed up, played some 9 man STT. got fed up of that, now hes playing a bit of cash instead. All we are seeing is a degen who has scrounged a few hundred quid off people and is now doing what the hell he wants with it!!! |
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Gentlemen, He is clearly doing this (very publicly) for a reason and I stand by what I said earlier, it is not about the money. He needs to prove himself (for his own reasons) to himself and/or to others, but this is no business of mine or anyone else's and Im not a psychologist. Considering 95% of "poker players" out there are losing players, until he moves into negative territory he is in the top 5% and whether he makes a cent or a million, he deserves some respect. He's run bad, he's run good but the one thing I can see through all of this is that he has not lost his head. If he feels that his returns may be higher playing cash, let him find out for himself. With all due respect I dont see any of his backers complaining because end of the day, he's in profit. considering my offshore bank is currently giving me less than 3% on my money, I think a 30% return thus far is very encouraging. OK, we're not talking mega stakes or mega returns but money is money and the guy is in profit so give him a break. Im sure he is learning a lot about himself (and others) and improving his game with this, so unlike so many people on here that just want to see the negative side of everything, I think youre doing just fine and I wish you luck.
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Lenny the Guvnor 06 Jan 08:45
Cheers for the concern Charwell but its really for me to learn a bit more discipline and try and become a fulltime grinder. By the end of the staking period i'm pretty sure it will be at least semi worthwhile It's all summed up their perfectly imo. The usual keyboard warrior abuse will always be rife when someone is brave enough to stick their neck out and do something like this in public. |
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winkleholland ^^^^ post of the year so far imo
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Thanks Six - I just find it amazing how everyone seems to hate success in this country. Forgive me for this rant but this thread really makes me angry. Why cant people be nice to each other? Want the best for each other? The guys making an effort for Gods sake. I personally like people like that. Why do so many of us hate winners ? As soon as someone is successful in life you just need to pick up the tabolids next day and you'll find (on the front page) that they picked their nose once, we try and find fault with them. It seems most of us love failure. Jealousy is an easy emotion to deal with. Much easier than Envy. Certainly looking at this thread most of the people here would love to see this guy who most of them havent even met or dont even know, fail. Why? Simple, because it makes you feel better to see someone else fail. Why? Simple, because it helps you forget your own problems and your own failures. Sad
So you thought you found someone you thought was worse off than you, but actually you're wrong. The guy's going for it. He found the backers, he's putting in the hours, he's trying but for you this adds up to failure. What does that make you? Ask yourself these questions and do something about your attitude towards those of us that are trying to do something with our lives. - you have your own problems which you need to address - address them, become successful as a person (doesnt have to be money) but don't go through life as a 'bitter" person. Successful people (Mother Teresa - net worth $0, Bill Gates - Net worth 60 Billion) rarely talk down to anyone who is trying to better themselves because in most cases they had to fight themselves and understand that effort is a positive thing . If this was posted in America everyone would be sending the guy chocolates. And yes, it is success in my books, even though the actual figures may not excite many people there is a bigger picture here, this guy has carried out this excercise in a "controlled environment" against a torrent of abuse and he is doing ok. Those of you that cant see that have a problem. At the end of it all we (but most importantly "he" ) will be able to make his own judgement based on his real abilities. Maybe he will decide that its not worth his time and find something else to do, what the hell business is it of yours. Take some time to deal with your own issues which I promise you need to do. You want someone you dont know to fail. That makes you sick and bitter person. Yes he may be able to make more money standing in front of a station (as someone kindly suggested earlier) but maybe he has more drive, determination and self respect than you are giving him credit for. He's begun a learning process which will show him whether he can move up to higher stakes and thus a decent income or not. Let him find this out for himself one way or another and if you cant find it within yourself to give the guy encouragement, then better to just keep quiet because your negativity reflects badly on you. I personally want to see him (and his backers) succeed because I am apositive person, I live my life in a positive way, and Id rather see people happy, not sad. Good luck to you all. Chelsea M |
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Excellent post Chelsea
How about this next time? ;) Thanks Six - I just find it amazing how everyone seems to hate success in this country. Forgive me for this rant but this thread really makes me angry. Why cant people be nice to each other? Want the best for each other? The guys making an effort for Gods sake. I personally like people like that. Why do so many of us hate winners ? As soon as someone is successful in life you just need to pick up the tabolids next day and you'll find (on the front page) that they picked their nose once, we try and find fault with them. It seems most of us love failure. Jealousy is an easy emotion to deal with. Much easier than Envy. Certainly looking at this thread most of the people here would love to see this guy who most of them havent even met or dont even know, fail. Why? Simple, because it makes you feel better to see someone else fail. Why? Simple, because it helps you forget your own problems and your own failures. Sad So you thought you found someone you thought was worse off than you, but actually you're wrong. The guy's going for it. He found the backers, he's putting in the hours, he's trying but for you this adds up to failure. What does that make you? Ask yourself these questions and do something about your attitude towards those of us that are trying to do something with our lives. You have your own problems which you need to address - address them, become successful as a person (doesnt have to be money) but don't go through life as a 'bitter" person. Successful people (Mother Teresa - net worth $0, Bill Gates - Net worth 60 Billion) rarely talk down to anyone who is trying to better themselves because in most cases they had to fight themselves and understand that effort is a positive thing . If this was posted in America everyone would be sending the guy chocolates. And yes, it is success in my books, even though the actual figures may not excite many people there is a bigger picture here, this guy has carried out this excercise in a "controlled environment" against a torrent of abuse and he is doing ok. Those of you that cant see that have a problem. At the end of it all we (but most importantly "he" ) will be able to make his own judgement based on his real abilities. Maybe he will decide that its not worth his time and find something else to do, what the hell business is it of yours. Take some time to deal with your own issues which I promise you need to do. You want someone you dont know to fail. That makes you sick and bitter person. Yes he may be able to make more money standing in front of a station (as someone kindly suggested earlier) but maybe he has more drive, determination and self respect than you are giving him credit for. He's begun a learning process which will show him whether he can move up to higher stakes and thus a decent income or not. Let him find this out for himself one way or another and if you cant find it within yourself to give the guy encouragement, then better to just keep quiet because your negativity reflects badly on you. I personally want to see him (and his backers) succeed because I am apositive person, I live my life in a positive way, and Id rather see people happy, not sad. Good luck to you all. Chelsea M |
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You generally reap what you sow in life (p.s. I don't know Alex Ferguson but I so want him to fail!)
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Thanks Keith. I guess I get a little carried away sometimes. It looks much prettier that way. Im glad you didnt do a spellcheck on it ;-) Seriously though, I speak from the heart. I hate seeing people getting beaten on.
I do of course respect Alex but can't say I want to see him successful since I support Aston Villa ;-) Interesting point. I guess if you're involved then it does make things a little different. |
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I couldnt resist Chelsea
For spelling you need Dibble |
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Haha - cheers mate. I think I'll keep my future posts to one liners to be safe.
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Ta Chelsea M. Great posts i think i may have to adjust my outlook on life sometimes. I think i read the sun too much :)
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[group hug]
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