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By:
douglas in the jungle
When: 27 Dec 09 07:31
My issues are this, if Ben wanted the £400- im presuming he's on the dole- no-one plays that many $6 stt's an isnt- he could get a budgeting loan an not need to drag the forum further down into a beggers paradise.

He called me a liar.

I am telling the truth.

He kicked me when i was on the ground- restrained.

He's done this so often with so many and theres yet to be a return that ive heard of anyway.

A lot of those sharkscope stats he put up he didnt even play all the games.

* but essentially its the lookn staking that is just other peoles money to gamble with and calling me a liar- the forum never used to be people begging money of each other- it was banter an poker craic. The other thing im deadly serious about Ben is if you sayn im lying bout what you said. If you addmit it fine- build a bridge get over it- but if you call me a liar again after me swearing on my families life- I swear, i dunno what i'll do- but i'll do somthing- WORD ON THAT.

Ive never asked a penny from anyone- anyone- from this forum, I asked Ari once bout 6 months ago- he said he wasnt with em- end of story. 30sec most. ive staked quite a few tho.

other thing is, seeing as ur 10x the poker player ill ever be- lets do 40 $10 hu sngs, few at a time, blast thro that in a few/four hours- hey $360 for a few hours works not bad been huh?

Just tell ur backers ur 10x the player i am- im sure they will thro money at you to burn. Hey im a limit player- its printinting money!

personally id rather play higher than 10, but as its quite the jump from 6- so a wee afternooon of multi-n 40 10's would be grand.

I hope this spurs you on to prove everyone wrong an grind out a nice pot of cash for people, I hope you admit the truth and apologise for callig me a liar- especially that you lied to Shaa's face as well- uneal. Belfast people take that ** serious- and rightly so- If Shaa truely believed I was lying about u sayn that, well sure- id be pretty gutted- an you'd be gettn seen too. i hope you play the 40 $10 u games (turbo's 3 at a time)

Im in foul fkn form, so dont even try rowing with me- ripping you to bits on a keyboard would take my mind of the symptoms.

I do hope you do well- but ffs stop making out ur Doyle Brunson- an imo- find ur own sate.

GL fella, i antiipate ur reply, i dont wana go to war- ban the bomb, nuke the whales etc- but you want it- its here.
By:
HYPE
When: 27 Dec 09 09:39
You can tell Dooms off the drugs - I can actually make sense of what he posted!
By:
bethammer
When: 27 Dec 09 09:53
winkelholland 27 Dec 02:06


I don't know you, I dont know Ben, but this has been an interesting thread! Well done for giving up the ****, Im certain that there will be times that you struggle with it and it will probably be the hardest battle of your life, but you are getting better and I hope you succeed. You are showing character and strength, and no matter how good or bad your poker may be, it is so unimportant compared to what you are trying to do to turn your life around. I truely wish you good luck, be strong and give yourself a chance of living a long and healthy life. You go back, you die.You know that so I'll say no more on the subject. Good luck. As for Ben, I can't understand why so many people are being so abusive towards him. Again, I dont know him but he's doing something that is important to him, however big or small, and its for him to decide where he wants to take it. We all have choices in life, Ben has found backers for his project and seems to be doing well.Im sure this will give him the confidence and experience to move up to higher levelsin the future, but this is his business and I wish you luck
with it Ben. Merry Xmas and Happy new year to all

spot on, sums it up perfectly, great thread and really hope you both get are successful with what you are doing.

good luck
By:
bethammer
When: 27 Dec 09 10:10
douglas
if i was you, i would forget about ben having to say sorry, i expect you have done a lot of thing you are not proud of and just want them forgotten , put it all in the past and just carry on fighting to stay of the drugs, dont worry whats happened before, you wil see things a lot clearer after being clean for a while, i know it must be hard but stick with it and leave ben to do his thing, the staking he has is not much money and i'm sure his backers are not doing it for the money but to help a friend.

good luck
By:
.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º>
When: 27 Dec 09 10:17
great thread,

we wish you a merry christmas , we wish you a merry chritsmas and a happy new year
By:
nospamallowed
When: 27 Dec 09 10:20
just awesome thread
By:
Nova Sicko
When: 27 Dec 09 10:30
who fancies a bailys?
By:
aristonandon
When: 27 Dec 09 10:34
finally aristons winnings wont win thread of the year weeeeeeeeeeeeee


merry christmas everyone
By:
Semi Skimmed Milk
When: 27 Dec 09 11:49
Theres only one way to shut the haters up Ben and thats to do exactly what you said you could do at the begginning of the thread. Just remember your goal when you go on a horrible downswing and keep your head. If you blow up once and do it all in you will just let everybody be able to say 'i told you so'.

If you are 10x the poker player you say you are, let the poker do the talking.
By:
douglas in the jungle
When: 27 Dec 09 18:07
I thought id post somthing.

Today has ben rough as fk for me- i didnt sleep till to 10am, house fulla kids, shower in use went for a lash round the back- Da caught me an went mental (hes 3.5 months of smokes after smoking all his life) was right up in my face calling me an animal 'an i wasnt brought up that way'- fkn slash like. I near busted him, tho hes been doing a sht load weights recently, an tho ive been in 20x more rows..................... wtf is this about??????????????? Is this a poker forum??????? Im not gona delete the above- ive had a rough day near came to blows with my Da.

Ben- hand on heart I hope u succeed- bethammer put it well when he said theres stuff ive done that im ashamed about- and there is. And i simply wouldnt publicly apologise- so forget that.

I think 800 games a day is too many, get a part-time job an do 200/250 a day. Its a marathon not a sprint. I would be certain you would get better results- as long as ur puttin in 5/6/8/9 hrs a night thats the thresehold of optium playing imo. I think you will bring home the bacon on this one.

An for all my guff, i dont hate u, ur a cnt- but so are we all to degrees- nature of the beast. I think your backers would be happier with a better return over a slightly longer period (also ur lss likely to tilt if u go stir crazy at a monitor 13/14hrs a day).

I do wish you the best of luck, im not lookn an apology- we both know what was said- if you want to mention it again- fine. We'l mention it again. I can let it slide.

GL CNUTO
By:
douglas in the jungle
When: 27 Dec 09 18:08
nearly 24 days :)
By:
douglas in the jungle
When: 27 Dec 09 18:27
Oh a thanks Winkle Holland- I never tought it would be this tough. But I will beat it. Like I beat this game, like im gona to hopefully make an effort with the girl im crazy about.

Time will tell tho- an its the moments of weakness your most vunerable. Steel will tho an precautions, like deleting numbers etc. Im 29, 30 very soon, if you run a drug habit past 30- well..... who am I to judge.

Best of luck to you to sir, and the others that havnt busted Mine or Bens balls. ie everyone.

I think Bens gona make it this time
By:
douglas in the jungle
When: 27 Dec 09 18:34
Last post from me in a looong time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UphfrPANJk
By:
Pokermonster
When: 27 Dec 09 18:41
BBC should have screened this thread instead of The Royle Family.

Very funny indeed. Thanks very much gentlemen. :)
By:
winkelholland
When: 27 Dec 09 22:28
You're more than welcome and I wish you luck with the girl. Just a small piece of advice from someone who has put in some time to help people with addictions in the past, if you ever feel that you need to talk to someone who will understand, keep the number for Narcotics Anonymous handy, you can always get hold of someone in your weakest moment or you just need a lift. I suggest you even consider going to meetings, you will need some support from time to time and these people know exactly what you are going through. Even if you know you can do it on your own, here's nothing wrong with making your life easier and a little more comfortable and nothing to be ashamed about. A night or two a week, great support structure. Think about it but whatever you do, definately keep the number handy.And get your dad an electronic cigarette!
Wish you all the best (Chelsea M)
By:
hammer45
When: 28 Dec 09 01:19
really admire what your doing douglas, it seems that you really want to open up and get it all out, this is probably not the place to do it, why dont you do as advised by chelsea, get some help from narcotics annon, it must be twice as hard doing it on your own, good luck with whatever you decide to do.
By:
checkAA_
When: 28 Dec 09 07:43
loving your work Nathen :)
By:
DECKIE SPIDER
When: 28 Dec 09 08:25
Thread of the year. :-)

Douglas in case you haven't noticed Ben has not replied to any of your last 25 posts/rants.
By:
R0ykeane
When: 28 Dec 09 09:17
pmsl, there are some real nut cases with issues on this forum.

some of you mugs belong on j springer
By:
bethammer
When: 28 Dec 09 10:52
great roy, a gambling forum and some people have issues and addictions, amazing. just hope you never have any problems.
By:
Lenny the Guvnor
When: 28 Dec 09 21:59
Played 31 games, no good.

Starting bank $650

Previous bank $1,010

Current bank $955

Total games played - 807
By:
Baron von purple hoffan
When: 29 Dec 09 00:01
Don't wanna hijack Bens thread, very well done btw mate.

But this has dragged the sausage stuffer back from retirement.

I've started today on Sun Poker playing 10man $10 sngs, with a $300 roll i iam to turn this into several zillion.


edit: starting roll $300

Now £359
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 29 Dec 09 00:16
how much is £359 in dollars?

this just won't do imo ;)
By:
Nova Sicko
When: 29 Dec 09 00:16
edit: starting roll $300

Now £359

pleasing start indeed
By:
Nova Sicko
When: 29 Dec 09 00:17
oh i'm not the only moderater working so late
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 29 Dec 09 00:21
:D
By:
canaryboy
When: 29 Dec 09 00:23
i thought about saying something long before you lot lol
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 29 Dec 09 13:34
So This is how the Pro's keep a Tally :^0
By:
I PUSH YOU FOLD !
When: 29 Dec 09 13:49
R0ykeane 29 Dec 14:35
I have given him the same warning i gave mr winner before i got him banned, its up to him now. If he persists i will have to take action



Looks like he has some issues.
By:
I PUSH YOU FOLD !
When: 29 Dec 09 14:02
R0ykeane 29 Dec 14:34
JIM JAM, I got mr winner banned now be warned I will get you banned if you persist with these blocks.
By:
jamesbeckton.
When: 29 Dec 09 14:10
this thread is funny
By:
Baron von purple hoffan
When: 30 Dec 09 15:03
LOl $359 it was and still is, miss type due to 3 bottles of Faustino 1.
By:
charwell.
When: 30 Dec 09 18:54
I must make a big effort to get to the nxt forum poker game. Sounds like a right hoot :)
By:
Lenny the Guvnor
When: 30 Dec 09 23:04
Marathon this evening. Wanted to get to goldstar before the end of the month. Got there but had a disaster tonight, loading HHs into HEM now to check the EV damage, i suspect its quite high. 102 games played today. If stakers dont mind i would like to move to either 25nl or $10 double or nothings. Please let me know if this is ok, and which one you would prefer. Seems to be an influx of stt grinders at the moment, we all seem to be sharing very little dead money. probably to do with people doing crazy challenges at the moment and grinders trying to copy them.


Starting bank $650

Previous bank $955

Current bank $783

Total games played - 909
By:
BlufDaddy
When: 30 Dec 09 23:26
This is a lot of work for £2.50 per day.

Bet you're wishing you'd paid more attention at school.
By:
Lenny the Guvnor
When: 30 Dec 09 23:30
Link to EV graph - http://i46.tinypic.com/2kqw0.jpg

It says the other 171 tourneys are 'not finished'

Dont have a clue what this means btw
By:
BlufDaddy
When: 30 Dec 09 23:42
This should make everything clear

http://rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/FacePalm.jpg
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 31 Dec 09 00:11
You need to manually edit the finish position, $ won, and tick the completed box for each of the tourneys. I find it easiest to print off opr results and cross ref. If there is a quicker way I would also like to know.

then refresh graph.
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 31 Dec 09 01:52
The $10 DoNs are soft as fk mate, i am back at d2ns again and plan to stay a while after playing them for most of 2009 (altho i am gonna play 50-100s).

Also, the variance is lower cause ur not allin as often. a bad day might mean u break even whereas playing these multi man stts, a bad day will see anyone lose a chunk.

There are a few unique spots in the** DoNs that u should know about tho to maximise ur ROI as well. shout me and i can let u know some tips otherwise it will take u longer to adjust to em.

I also have thousands of hands worth of stats on loads of regs (even some at $10 level) which i can give u. u can paste them into the notes and it might make the difference between winning and losing a game now and again. For example if folded to u in sb, ur sitting with Q8 or something & all stacks are level. Usually u can raise but if u already know the guy is a horrifically stupid brain dead donk then give them a walk instead...!

I found after playing these for a while as well that u can autopilot much easier and therefore can put in even more volume than normal stts. I guess it's cause there is no real 'end', just a series of correct decisions u need to make.

TBH by playing $10s in a few days u could/should make a good few hundred $s imo. If u run at 10% ROI (which is highish but achieveable) then u should be playing $20s within a week...! Again I got stats/notes at $20 level.

Finally, I taught my bro to play the $20 d2ns within a few days (he was playing lo stakes nl on ipoka before but wanted something with less variance). He can now play em pretty much faultlessly and has made a bit of extra income at $20 level. So what I'm saying is get ur anus to the DoNs!
By:
Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag
When: 31 Dec 09 01:52
The $10 DoNs are soft as fk mate, i am back at d2ns again and plan to stay a while after playing them for most of 2009 (altho i am gonna play 50-100s).

Also, the variance is lower cause ur not allin as often. a bad day might mean u break even whereas playing these multi man stts, a bad day will see anyone lose a chunk.

There are a few unique spots in the st arrs DoNs that u should know about tho to maximise ur ROI as well. shout me and i can let u know some tips otherwise it will take u longer to adjust to em.

I also have thousands of hands worth of stats on loads of regs (even some at $10 level) which i can give u. u can paste them into the notes and it might make the difference between winning and losing a game now and again. For example if folded to u in sb, ur sitting with Q8 or something & all stacks are level. Usually u can raise but if u already know the guy is a horrifically stupid brain dead donk then give them a walk instead...!

I found after playing these for a while as well that u can autopilot much easier and therefore can put in even more volume than normal stts. I guess it's cause there is no real 'end', just a series of correct decisions u need to make.

TBH by playing $10s in a few days u could/should make a good few hundred $s imo. If u run at 10% ROI (which is highish but achieveable) then u should be playing $20s within a week...! Again I got stats/notes at $20 level.

Finally, I taught my bro to play the $20 d2ns within a few days (he was playing lo stakes nl on ipokka before but wanted something with less variance). He can now play em pretty much faultlessly and has made a bit of extra income at $20 level. So what I'm saying is get ur anus to the DoNs!
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