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Profitable Punchestown ??
Profitable Punchestown ??
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Nichols Canyon was about 5/6 best with any firm that would lay a bet.
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"Its not laziness it's knowing those prices are not for me."
The above statement captures perfectly and equally your arrogance,foolishness,lazyness and your inability to decipher between illusion and reality. |
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Had an account with Victor Chandler closed after a year.
I was approached by a Grand National winning owner to open an account with Sunderlands,promised a host of guarantees,three weeks that account lasted. I gave up on morning prices long ago. I don't blame the bookmakers in this instance as they look on these prices as just a guide. |
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Have you ever been refused a €50 bet in a PP shop?
The 8/1 on Felix Yonger was there for five hours on Monday afternoon (over 12 hours online). It would take me less than 45 minutes to get to 10 shops without effecting the price. I think a monkey at 8/1 would be a decent bet for 95% on punters on here,how is this unrealistic? I accept 365 is a different kettle of fish but in terms of getting bets on (there are ways) but my god it's as lazy as sin not to try to avail of overnight prices. You obviously don't try to get your stake on in one shop. |
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That's a nothing response Wildman, ignoring the questions posed as you have done many times previously.
There's any number of ways to get money on as long as you manage it correctly. You have no interest in putting in the ground work and would rather believe that only mugs can get on. |
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Your posts and bets on this thread have been childish and lacked authenticity.
Wildman and the Gotchee's ridiculous staking and immature comments were clearly a childish attempt to sabotage the thread and convey everything that's wrong with the forum,ie Bitterness,begrudegery and a refusal to evolve. |
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Get off your moral pedestal ffs dj, you have maintained that overnight prices were just for mug punters and here you are with a sickening different tune, which is it? You slaughtered a thread that i started on overnight prices,go away and read your replies,it isn't far down.
(decent picking from ya all the same) |
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There is a clear distinction PA with getting on with PP online on overnight prices and getting on in the offices,perhaps I was envious of your account where as I have to do a lot of leg work. 365 is a lot more difficult for obvious reasons.
Anyways wasted enough time with these begrudging questions,go through the thread with any prices you want. |
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My comments on Yorkhill were on another thread well before I posted about him here.
You conveniently forget I'm not a professional,I punt because I enjoy it. You also forget I work and live in a rural area,I have no interest in driving around trying to filch prices that may or may not be there. Ye may be making money but I doubt it. TellTheKing would have a better chance than DJ876 because he is more flexible. DJ876 is interesting and I actually value his opinion but the poor fellow is tortured by rules,he's not a natural has no feel for gambling and you get the impression that a losing run would tip him over the edge. |
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You havn't spent anytime on it you have avoided it because it is a total contradiction to this thread,you have vilified PP for not allowing an overniight bet which i disagreed with and now a complete turnaround,not sure your argument in going to x amount of shops the night before would stand up to much scrutiny for a few reasons,namely the logistics for 1 and the quickness price cuts come into effect for another.
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You obviously haven't been in Dublin in a while,there are at least 15 PP shops within a 20 minute walk (in different directions obviously) from where I live.
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sounds like you are living within 20 min walk of the epicentre of gambling in dublin, with all those different disguises you can employ, should be able to get your bets on forever.
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DJ , Pa is correct , you seems to be moving the goal posts to suit yourself ...You must live in the City Centre to have so many PP so close ..Surely they would be wairy of you coming in day after day and having the same bets on the same horses ..?
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Ozymandius • May 3, 2015 12:50 PM BST
One question about banks and staking plans. Am I right in saying, for example ....if you were to double your original bank of 100 to 200, then a one point bet represents 2, rather than 1 as it was originally. It also means that you never go bust, unless you go all in. OR...does one point always remain 1% of your original bank? Oz, Dec has an article on staking on his site...http://www.learnbetwin.com/premium-advisory-service-horse-racing-tips/......scroll down to 'What betting bank should I have?' ROI is obviously the only way to truly assess success or failure. WD DJ, was a difficult week up until yesterday. Analifet and Sort Me Out done exactly that. Hoping for Murphy to complete to recovery on the baize. Wildman, you certainly had a better week than me!! Though was very surprised to read you didn't know how to calculate ROI. As for the Rule 4 in the hurling, I don't think I would have been able for that! I was doing a bet on the cricket in a PP shop last week....the girl behind the counter asked could I not fill the bet out on the correct slip. I asked which slip I should use. 49ers I was told. Ok!! |
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Mathematics wouldn't be my strong point.
Dart finishes,snooker scores mustard but that was out of necessity. The point our two intrepid punters are missing is whilst I'm trying to make money I don't have to,I just like punting. If I have a bad run I go back to the woods repentant and work my way back. |
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What does you not minding whether you lose money have to do with any of the points raised above? As Jordan Belfort said, there's no nobility in poverty.
In order to stave off another trip to the woods I suggest you have a few quid on Little Popsie in the next race at Belmont. |
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Thanks callit, interesting reading.
So Deco advocates that as your bank increases, so will your stake per point (plus many further nuances). So 1 point effectively means 1% of running bank total. We might have to run Borneo' figures again  ...that 70% hit at the end (rather than a 70 point decrease) will surely do for his final ROI % and he may have to reevaluate his proclamation off himself as the winner  Quick calculation, I make his ROI % as 9.6%.....94/983. DJs figures much less affected. Please return the Gold Medal. |
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I like the woods,I never bet on an American race in my life bar a bit of laying on the Breeders Cup.
Whilst I like reading others opinions on racing and contrary to what people think I heed those opinions but I like to make my own selections |
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Down to my last dollar, TTK. Please wire moneyz for girls and stimulants. |
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I got an email today from a king in Nigeria Ozy who needs an EU based bank account to legitimise some money. Will I pass him your details? I understand he would be amenable to giving you a slice. Certainly enough to replenish the hedonism fund.
You were right to stay away Wildman. I shall admonish my mole accordingly. |
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I'll cut the Nigerian in from the profits the next time your Mole finds a good one.
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I know a pro gambler who tries to bet early prices but simply can't get the dosh down or enough of it, so can't say it's mug punters betting them but it is more lads who are happy enough to get a few bob down.
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Deal.
Some very interesting stuff from Declan Meagher. Will be winding down the punting over the summer months but some food for thought for when the NH season gets going again. |
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One of the cleverest punters I know , backs in 20 15s ,takes what he can at night prices ..He was at Punchestown this week and backed winner after winner it seemed ..He said sometimes its very hard to get on even to his small stakes ...So it must be only pennies people can get on at those prices..
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Was not following this thread , most of my bets last week at Punchestown were not with the firms quoted most here . Had only one bet in PP office , although I checked them out each day , only bet was Road to Riches at 4/1 , money back if second to a Mullins winner . Given it was a clear 3 horse race and that general opinion ( including commentating pundits etc ) was not sure that Don Cossack would stay 3.1 , reckoned it was a sporting bet . Looked like money back 2 out , did not reackon with Don Cossack putting Djakadam away fairly easily .
Normally I would have lots of bets in PP offices during P/Town , that I didn't this year indicates something may have changed . No trouble getting decent bets in their offices up here , as long as you are not ripping the ar*e out of it regularly . JP had some meeting , think he had 4 on Saturday , only one of which was of interest to me as it happened . The jockey retention ( if it happens a la AP set up ) is going to be interesting . Personally I think they may go with the flow and just get the best available on a day to day basis , most of those riding JP horses last week were good pilots , and they do hold a winning hand -- trainers , jockeys , horses ( and owner) . |
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Tony does not remember any winners or this thread but was in fact the first person to reply (negatively) to it.
He did seem to go quiet when winners were being produced though. |
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yes that tony is a nasty piece of work, he threatened physical violence against a disabled fella on another forum.
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