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By:
thegiggilo
When: 17 Feb 14 00:41
Perhaps he won't maybe he will only be an 80-85 horse doesn't really make any difference as long as there's some value betting wise that's all I'm interested in I've got hundreds of bets to look forward to this is just one in a myriad of bets.
By:
dj876
When: 17 Feb 14 00:53
No interest in the Sand but I can spot a spoofer and anyone that puts up a horse as being potentially underrated next time up after bolting up in a maiden by 9 lengths,suggests he is group class and then gets beaten by 60 rated handicappers but then  attempts to claim some credit because he was well punted and now we have that he is a fibre sand specialist only.

Anyone that comes on to anonymous forum and claims to have made fortunes over the last few years (why would anyone be bothered telling an anonymous forum) and also claims to have more runners than Patrick Veitch and Barney Curley combined also fits the bill of a spoofer.

Anyone that come on to an anonymous forum and boats about building their second /third house etc fits the category,you're either very insecure or full of crap.
By:
dj876
When: 17 Feb 14 00:53
Boasts
By:
thegiggilo
When: 17 Feb 14 01:03
I think you take things to seriously my friend,half the things you've said there are nonsense I've never mentioned runners ever,never said group class his speedfigure suggests 90 horse on the swell run.I told you before I email 20 on betfair they have all the bets for the last 3 years you could ask any of them they are not runners they are bets I give out of my own free time,i don't know any of them.I never said anything about the punt at Kempton that was road runner,i've made my living from racing for 12/13 years and yes I have two houses big deal..
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 01:08
dj86 leave it out, will ya. maybe people that have been betting for years and years and make good money, enjoy talking about horses,
just like people do, havent seen anything on this forum that can match his level of expertise, that includes youLaugh not going  remind you, that you thought al kazeem was no better than a group 3 horseLaugh watched his skills and know how good he is. then again, no doubt theirs other people who are good too, unless you have your own thread and ive seen enough proof over 12 months?,knows
what hes talking about, as usual always people on here trying to knock someone for putting up  follow horses.
By:
dj876
When: 17 Feb 14 01:13
It's sad that you have boasted about building a second house or constantly need to state that you have earned your living from professional punting for the last 12/13 years.

Roadrunner,Have you started watching any raving yet??

Irish forum has nothing to do with English bucket and sand BULL and the constant after timing by both of ye is tiresome.
By:
dj876
When: 17 Feb 14 01:14
Racing/Raving...An appropriate mistake
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 01:23
just half way through reading public enemy by patrick veitch, seems always liked to bet on good recent form horsesLaugh
no one can claim ive copied his style, only had the book a few weeks. very boring in places, hope learn something by the end
of it. theirs a very good reason why people bet on the all weather, judging by the some of the books ive  read, seems vital
to have extra built in advantages and track biases, definitely get that on the all weather, especially on fibre sand. gn all
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 15:23
DOLDRUMS 2nd today has run twice now since going on the thread, was 6/1 last night went as low as 4.2 on the machine today
and lower IR, only few horses on the thread, can manage to highlight few of the failures for the people who are interested.
By:
elvissss
When: 17 Feb 14 15:58
Highlighting failures?

How can something fail if nothing is posted?  Laugh
By:
dj876
When: 17 Feb 14 16:14
These threads are the equivalent of listing 15 premiership teams and then coming on with a smiley and making reference to the price  every time they win a game. Even though no reference has been made to that match,opposition etc

Pure and Utter Cods Wallop and if the OP can't see this,he's obviously not the full Whack!
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 16:57
SILKEN EXPRESS 2nd 11/1 12/1 last night matched as low as 5/2, another failure highlighted for youLaugh

dumb xxxxs, you know that, its notebook thread, dont have to tell you when to bet them, already highlighted, now fxxx off
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 16:59
you can put them in your horse tracker, and when they run, you can decide to bet them or not, not going to make up your mind for you.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 17:03
ive put few horses in my horse tracker from someone else, dont need that person advising me when to back them or not, make
up my own mind.
By:
elvissss
When: 17 Feb 14 17:10
you can decide to bet them or not, not going to make up your mind for you.




But.... not making up your own mind either .... until the race is over.... usually 2 late then?
By:
roadrunner46
When: 17 Feb 14 17:23
utter garbage you lot spew on this thread, horse tracker system is for, either follow my notebooks or you dont, upto you,
ive put selections on here in the past. remember not one person saying well done after they won, no problem, around that
time decided not going to put any more write ups or winners on here, what did do, was put up my best notebooks, same again
no thank yous.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 20 Feb 14 01:08
class 4 6f lingfield handicap

MAJOR CRISPIES 1ST 7/2 lightly raced just the one win so far, has raced against soem very smart types, well bred by one of my
fav sires pastoral pursuits, does get a good few prolific winners, hopefully this will be one of them.

THE DANDY YANK that run the other day, wasnt expecting much in that race, have been stepping it up in class steeply, coincidently
that race was won by a pastoral pursuits horse, FUEL INJECTION, apart from that the good horses are still holding their form on the AW.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 20 Feb 14 01:20
17:25 Kempton (A.W.), 19 Feb 20145f
BetBright.com Handicap (Class 5) (4YO plus)
Winner £2,588 - 8 ran
Standard



Weighed In

Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1 Brown and green stripes, brown sleeves and cap 5. Iffranesia (FR) (1)ATR Tracker 11/4 2Fav 4 9 - 4p T P Queally
R M H Cowell
67
slowly into stride, in rear, pushed along over 3f out, headway over 1f out, led inside final furlong, ridden out
2 1¼ Yellow, emerald green diamond on body and cap, yellow sleeves, emerald green seams 6. Novabridge (8)ATR Tracker 20/1 6 9 - 1b L P Keniry
N P Mulholland
64
steadied start, in rear, ran on inside final furlong, went 2nd close home, no impression on winner
3 hd Dark blue, yellow cross belts, yellow and dark blue striped sleeves, dark blue and yellow striped cap 3. Roy's Legacy (7)ATR Tracker 5/2 Fav 5 9 - 3 Michael J M Murphy (3)
S A Harris
69
tracked leaders, ridden on outside 2f out, led 1f out, headed inside final furlong, lost 2nd close home
4 ¾ Maroon and light blue stripes, maroon sleeves, light blue armlets, maroon cap 2. Sir Geoffrey (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 8/1 8 9 - 6p F Tylicki
S Dixon
69
prominent, led 3rd, ridden and headed 1f out, no extra towards finish
5 shd Emerald green and purple (quartered), purple sleeves, emerald green armlets 1. Desert Strike (4)ATR Tracker 3/1 8 9 - 7p Hayley Turner
C R Dore
70
prominent, led over 3f out, soon headed, ridden and every chance over 1f out, stayed on same pace inside final furlong
6 1 Orange, royal blue diamond, diamonds on sleeves, orange cap, royal blue diamond 7. Dawn CatcherShocked (6)ATR Tracker 20/1 4 8 - 10 J Quinn
Geoffrey Deacon
59
chased leaders, not clear run over 1f out, no impression
7 ½ Orange, beige sleeves 8. Your GiftedShocked (IRE) (3)ATR Tracker 14/1 7 8 - 2
(oh1)v Shirley Teasdale (5)
Mrs L Williamson
56
held up, took keen hold, headway over 2f out, not clear run from over 1f out until inside final furlong, not able to challenge
8 5 Red, white seams, white and red chevrons on sleeves, white cap 4. Pull The Pin (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 10/1 5 9 - 5tb William Carson
Miss A Stokell
68
led, headed over 3f out, edged right and not much room over 1f out, weakened final furlong

Off Time:17:25:09
Winning Time:0m 59.55s

Your giftedCool
Dawn catcherCool


Your gifted a thoroughly exposed 7yr old but an eyecatcher in this race travelling as well as anything trapped in on rail with nowhere to go throughout the race.She was up with the pace throughout,the race collapsed around the pacesetters and the two finishers won and came third, from last two positons in last furlong.
Considering she was up with the pace and was still travelling best bar the winner was even more eyecatching,how much she would've found is impossible to say but would surely have been in places against progressive winner.She's probably a horse I would avoid normally with strike rate and trainer but she could be overpriced after this run with books.
She's had a couple of seconds already this season both at wolves and a few places,this run would've been a long way infront of her recent best form and she maybe worth a few bets over the next few week.Quite interesting that she hasn't run at Kempton for 3 seasons but the track seemed to suit and the frenetic pace.
Dawn catcher similarly seemed suited by the track seemed to be travelling as well as most but was on outside of your gifted but couldn't get a run either,stopped in run shuffled back.She maynot have picked up as well as your gifted very difficult to tell but she's only had 8 lifetime runs,hadn't run since November had finished a length behind poyle Vinnie over c/d in a time that was respectable.Poyle Vinnie has since run 4th to expose after being hampered,there could be more to come from her and she could well be huge prices in very mediocre races.Just to mention roys legacy another very good run from poor draw up with pace throughout and still managing to get third place there may still be another race in him when given the draw and lead!!Shocked
By:
neill d
When: 25 Feb 14 12:12
Would like your opinion on a horse that ran at Wolverhampton on Saturday night. Lineman is his name.
Ex-weld but by a sire I wouldn't like in Rail Link.
He went off short-enough in a Tipp maiden last summer and finished mid-div. hadn't shown too much in England until Saturday night where he was a close enough third behind a well-handicapped horse of Fahey's that got a good ride from tony Hamilton.
He has only just turned 4 and is a big shell of a horse that wants either decent ground or an artificial surface. I think he is better than his mark and will win races on the all-weather. Will get back on the day he runs next (actually probably the evening before) and assess the shape of the race.


Came home to see that that horse did the business yesterday at Wolverhampton Roadie, needless to say I am sickened as I hadn't a bob on. Didn't get the chance to look at any racing properly since the weekend.
By:
kingrat
When: 25 Feb 14 15:21
is honest strike in yre note book,roadie? cheers!
By:
roadrunner46
When: 25 Feb 14 15:41
honest strike has been beaten already by keep kicking, is now getting weight to reverse placings , who knows? gl
kings request has won well over C/D that has good chance and the danger could be keep kicking.

LINEMAN was a good bet the other day, doldrums is unreliable and was well backed, so made for an easy trade, with RAIL LINKS
they usually good types and go well on the AW.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 26 Feb 14 18:30
1st 5/4 kings request
2nd 9/2 keep kicking
3rd 9/2 honest strike

the form worked out well in this race, with the unexposed fav just holding off keep kicking.

on another note two winners today that finished behind horses that i have put on this thread, GLOBAL EXPLORER finished behind
MAJOR CRISPIES and DUTIFUL SON that beat EX EX , so not bad those races working out well.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 27 Feb 14 17:08
thegiggilo
     01 Feb 14 01:11   









14:00 Southwell (A.W.), 30 Jan 20146f
Compare Bookmakers At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Class 6) (4YO plus)
Winner £2,264 - 7 ran
Standard

McBookie.com
Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1 Black, white seams, white sleeves, black armlets, black cap 5. Star Up In The Sky (USA) (2)ATR Tracker 11/4 2Fav 4 9 - 1b G Lee
K A Ryan
53
made all, driven clear over 1f out, ran on well
2 4½ Dark blue, yellow hoops, chevrons on sleeves, yellow cap 7. Orwellian (7)ATR Tracker 10/1 5 8 - 11 P Aspell
B Smart
49
slowly into stride, chased leaders, driven to challenge over 2f out, kept on under pressure closing stages, no chance with winner
3 ¾ Red, white diamond, white sleeves, red armlets, red cap, white diamond 1. Layla's Hero (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 2/1 Fav 7 9 - 13
(ex6)v Adrian Nicholls
D Nicholls
65
slowly into stride, reminders, driven and headway on outside at halfway, chased leaders over 1f out, no extra closing stages
4 2½ Yellow, black hoop, black sleeves, yellow armlets, quartered cap 6. Upper Lambourn (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 4/1 6 8 - 11t J Fanning
C N Kellett
49
tracked leaders, outpaced halfway, rallied over 1f out, never able to challenge
5 1¼ Dark blue, red spots 3. Gebayl (8)ATR Tracker 16/1 4 9 - 2t1 M Coumbe (3)
R Ingram
57
tracked leader, driven to challenge well over 2f out, soon one pace, faded final furlong
6 hd Dark blue, white cross belts, halved sleeves, white cap 8. Molly Jones (3)ATR Tracker 50/1 5 8 - 10 L P Keniry
D Haydn Jones
48
dwelt, tracked leaders, weakened well over 1f out
7 1¼ Red, royal blue seams, red sleeves, royal blue stars, red cap, royal blue star 4. Triple Aitch (USA) (6)ATR Tracker 5/1 4 9 - 0 H Poulton (5)
G C Bravery
57
in touch, effort 2f out, soon weakened
Light blue, pink star, pink sleeves, light blue stars, pink cap, light blue star 2. Girl At The Sands (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker Non Runner 59


Off Time:14:00:43
Winning Time:1m 14.84s


Star up in the sky

When I first saw this result thought the time looked exceptional for a 53 rated runner,but track was riding very quick I still think it was pretty good but with the penalty which will be 10 pound then the time is negated to what about a horse of 63 would produce on that surface.But this was only second run since September,penultimate run behind Basingstoke was the race I put on here being the fastest of the season over 7fs that race has worked out exceptionally well George Benjamin and todays winner plus three places already coming out of the race.
Today she was dropped back to 6fs and they were virtuially all in a line with 2fs to go,probably confirming they didn't go that quick early but she quickened impressively.She was a winner off 73 in august 2012 she's still only had 13 races she also could be versatile with the amount of ear;ly pace she shows,infact she has looked a little to keen she maybe even more interesting give a chance over the straight 5fs.She could turn out to be a big improver on this surface and one to fiollowCool

The ''KING''!!Cool
By:
roadrunner46
When: 28 Feb 14 00:51
that was a great write up, time was very good and the winning distance. WD

kempton 16f class 4

JAVA ROSE 2nd beaten neck, good type thats still lightly raced and was beaten tonight by poitin who had a good 4lb pull
for 3/4 length beating LTO,

there has been few winners lately coming form the dandy yanks races, basingstoke run today for its new yard over longer
trip, finished last, was raised 11lbs for last win, there was thousands for patriotic in the same race the night before
on betfair. FRANTHETANK won its 3rd race at southwell today, its only raced 8 times.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Feb 14 19:23
13:30 Lingfield (A.W.), 28 Feb
32red Burning Desire Slot Handicap (Class 6) (3YO only)
Winner £2,727 - 7 ran

1 Orange, emerald green stars 5. Tizlove Regardless (USA) (8)ATR Tracker 2/1 2Fav 3 9 - 0 A Kirby
M Johnston
58
tracked leader, ridden 3f out, led 2f out, stayed on
2 2½ Black, white diamond, white sleeves, black stars 7. Whispering Star (USA) (7)ATR Tracker 7/4 Fav 3 8 - 7
(oh1) David Probert
D M Simcock
51
in rear, ridden over 2f out, headway entering final furlong, ran on, not reach winner
3 3 Light blue, dark blue cross belts, dark blue cap 6. Sandy Cove (6)ATR Tracker 7/1 3 8 - 13 Luke Morris
J M P Eustace
57
towards rear, headway under pressure on outer 2f out, kept on one pace final furlong
4 2¼ Royal blue, beige hooped sleeves and cap 3. Barbary (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker 7/2 3 9 - 5
(ex6) F Tylicki
Charlie Fellowes
63
tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, kept on one pace
5 1¼ Pink, large mauve spots, pink sleeves, mauve spots, mauve cap 1. Black Vale (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 66/1 3 9 - 0t Donna Caldwell (7)
P S McEntee
65
keen led, 3 lengths clear 5f out, ridden and headed 2f out, weakened final furlong
6 2 Black, large light blue spots and sleeves 8. Royal Bushida (4)ATR Tracker 25/1 3 8 - 0
(oh4) Adam McLean (7)
D Shaw
51
in touch, pushed along halfway, outpaced 3f out
7 ½ Emerald green, black epaulets, striped sleeves, emerald green cap 2. Windlass (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 8/1 3 9 - 6 R Havlin
J H M Gosden
64
in touch, ridden and outpaced over 2f out
Royal blue, orange seams and armlets, quartered cap 4. Penara (3)ATR Tracker Non Runner 59


Off Time:13:30:38
Winning Time:1m 36.21s


Tizlove regardless

A very good time for a 3yr old only rated 58 1m36.21 infact I doubt any 3yr rated 10-12 pound higher than this has run quicker this season from memory.The johnstn horse has only had 6 runs,this large colt looked awkward on track and it maybe the surface even though he won easily may not be preferable.Out of top class sire tiznow,the progeny are very progressive from 3yr olds upwards and it maybe the Johnston horse could impriove for switch of surface.Regardfless of that he will still look well handicapped after this poor looking race today shouldn't be higher than 65 leaving him in the lower grade races.He could be one to watch closely as I wouldn't be surprised to see him far better than current markShocked,he may even go on the turfShocked as well so could well be interesting early season.There have been decent turf performers out of the pedigree even if tiznow was a purely dirt performer!!Cool
By:
roadrunner46
When: 28 Feb 14 19:53
SWIVEL 1ST 7/4 good run LTO in a better race, you will find that on this thread somewhere, finally one of these ones wins a race.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 03 Mar 14 15:29
HILLBILLY BOY 1ST 4/1 best price 8/1, one of the first ones notebooked on this thread.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 03 Mar 14 16:00
TEMPLE ROAD 1ST 2/1 best price 10/3 wins next timeout, told you they were good horsesCool
By:
roadrunner46
When: 03 Mar 14 17:03
must be the first notebook treble for the thread TIZLOVE REGARDLESS 4/7 best price 7/4 WD
By:
thegiggilo
When: 03 Mar 14 17:08
thegiggilo
     28 Feb 14 19:23   









13:30 Lingfield (A.W.), 28 Feb
32red Burning Desire Slot Handicap (Class 6) (3YO only)
Winner £2,727 - 7 ran

1 Orange, emerald green stars 5. Tizlove Regardless (USA) (8)ATR Tracker 2/1 2Fav 3 9 - 0 A Kirby
M Johnston
58
tracked leader, ridden 3f out, led 2f out, stayed on
2 2½ Black, white diamond, white sleeves, black stars 7. Whispering Star (USA) (7)ATR Tracker 7/4 Fav 3 8 - 7
(oh1) David Probert
D M Simcock
51
in rear, ridden over 2f out, headway entering final furlong, ran on, not reach winner
3 3 Light blue, dark blue cross belts, dark blue cap 6. Sandy Cove (6)ATR Tracker 7/1 3 8 - 13 Luke Morris
J M P Eustace
57
towards rear, headway under pressure on outer 2f out, kept on one pace final furlong
4 2¼ Royal blue, beige hooped sleeves and cap 3. Barbary (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker 7/2 3 9 - 5
(ex6) F Tylicki
Charlie Fellowes
63
tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, kept on one pace
5 1¼ Pink, large mauve spots, pink sleeves, mauve spots, mauve cap 1. Black Vale (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 66/1 3 9 - 0t Donna Caldwell (7)
P S McEntee
65
keen led, 3 lengths clear 5f out, ridden and headed 2f out, weakened final furlong
6 2 Black, large light blue spots and sleeves 8. Royal Bushida (4)ATR Tracker 25/1 3 8 - 0
(oh4) Adam McLean (7)
D Shaw
51
in touch, pushed along halfway, outpaced 3f out
7 ½ Emerald green, black epaulets, striped sleeves, emerald green cap 2. Windlass (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 8/1 3 9 - 6 R Havlin
J H M Gosden
64
in touch, ridden and outpaced over 2f out
Royal blue, orange seams and armlets, quartered cap 4. Penara (3)ATR Tracker Non Runner 59


Off Time:13:30:38
Winning Time:1m 36.21s


Tizlove regardless

A very good time for a 3yr old only rated 58 1m36.21 infact I doubt any 3yr rated 10-12 pound higher than this has run quicker this season from memory.The johnstn horse has only had 6 runs,this large colt looked awkward on track and it maybe the surface even though he won easily may not be preferable.Out of top class sire tiznow,the progeny are very progressive from 3yr olds upwards and it maybe the Johnston horse could impriove for switch of surface.Regardfless of that he will still look well handicapped after this poor looking race today shouldn't be higher than 65 leaving him in the lower grade races.He could be one to watch closely as I wouldn't be surprised to see him far better than current markShocked,he may even go on the turfShocked as well so could well be interesting early season.There have been decent turf performers out of the pedigreeShocked even if tiznow was a purely dirt performer!!Shocked

Took all the 7/4,6/4 right down to 4/5 the clock never lies keep watching he could be an 80+ horse....ShockedCool
By:
roadrunner46
When: 03 Mar 14 22:10
class 4 6f kempton handicap

GLASTONBERRY 1ST 10/1 very good horse and still only won 5 times, could be few more wins in the future. has run some good times
in the past, finally won in grade 4 today and goes well at kempton / wolves / lingfield,
By:
roadrunner46
When: 08 Mar 14 21:35
class 4 7f wolves handicap

EURO CHARLENE 1ST 5/4 only raced twice and won both races, easy winner today by 9 lengths, time 128.62 slow (1.82)
trained by marco botti and OR 78, sire  myboycharlie hasnt produced any really good horses yet, hopefully this
could be one of the good ones.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 22 Mar 14 01:24
WD TIZLOVEREGARDLESS won again the other night, was going to put PROFILE STAR on here after it finished 2nd recently after being well backed and then drifting , couldnt be bothered, won the other day going off 3/1, never know if this horse will ever rack up a few wins in a row, live in hope.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 22 Mar 14 01:34
oh yeah nearly forgot ALUMINA racked up its 4th win a row the other day, hopefully more wins to follow, there has been few prolific winners lately on the AWWink
By:
roadrunner46
When: 22 Mar 14 01:38
5f class 4 southwell

2nd FUEL INJECTION beaten a nose, only raced 10 times and won twice, well bred by pastoral pursuits,
good horse goes well at southwell, hope can continue to improve, there has been few other horses, they
have already been cleaning up.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 22 Mar 14 22:05
MAJOR CRISPIES went close today again at 50/1 finishing 3rd, has gone up form OR 79 to OR 94 + plus now, since notebooked on the thread. the winner did have exceptional form finishing behind my guineas tip toormore. kings request won again the other day, tipped on this thread LTO.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 25 Mar 14 19:31
ALUMINA wins for the 5th time in a row, did say there was more wins to come hopefully only 3 days ago.Wink

now you know why its worth mentioning the winnersCool going to close this thread down as the start of the
flat season this weekend. gl all
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 25 Mar 14 19:32
Is there going to be a closing down sale roady?
By:
poorpup
When: 25 Mar 14 19:38
well done roadrunner
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 25 Mar 14 19:42
Ah stop taking the p1ss out of him like that poorpup
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