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ALL WEATHER THREAD 2014 SOUTHWELL / KEMPTON / WOLVES / LINGFIELD
ALL WEATHER THREAD 2014 SOUTHWELL / KEMPTON / WOLVES / LINGFIELD
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class 5 6f lingfield handicap
TAUTIRA 1st 12/1 raced 10 times, 2 wins todate, ran good 2nd behind disko now rated 95, good time that day 0.17 slow lightly raced and looks good candidate for the notebook. |
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class 5 12f fillies handicap
DOLDRUMS 1st 2/1 has won twice at wovelhampton now 8f/12f 300k buy well bred by bernstein 150k fee, only had the 5 runs and with mark jonston's horses you never know how good they will become. possible will be going off at short prices in furure, which is not ideal. on another note LITTLE BIG MAN 1st 4/5 franked the form of TAUTIRA today with an easy win by 2 1/2 lengths. |
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class 6 8f southwell handicap
HOT RIGHT NOW 1st 33/1 has won twice over C/D only raced 5 times and is well bred by SLEEPING INDIAN which is a totally underrated stallion, one that have mentioned many times on the bloodstock forum, also by grand lodge on the dam side, lightly raced and trained by k burke, good with these young horses. OR 62 could be a 75 horse. |
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The two occasions the horse has won over c/d he beat a 55 rated animal 3/4l and a 62 horse 1 1/4L......also been stuffed out of sight when running off 65 and 63.....what makes you think
he could be a 75 horse?......just as a matter of interest.....i'm very willing to learn you see. |
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your not going to learn from someone who is making an eduacated guess about a horse being a potential OR 75 thats rated 62 at the moment, why are you bothering to read my posts anyway?, wish could tell you the horse ran a very good time for the grade, the fact
is the time was nothing special, maybe even slower compared to the rest of the races on the card that day, lets just call it a hunch. |
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when notebooked PERFECT PASTURE that was OR 67, wish told everyone now that was going to be a 100 horse now, look through my threads most of the winners went up over a stone in the ratings, you could say im using historical data to come up with that guesstimate, HTH
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Wow that really is amazing rr....which notebook was perfect pasture first mentioned btw.
So the estimated 75 rating of Hot Right Now is a guess/hunch? |
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only mentioned after it won two races, then it won its next 4 races, total of 6 races on the bounce, most likely you didnt notice
that won because you wont find anyone on this forum, that said well done ive made few pounds backing that horse, many thanks  very difficult to find horses that win 6 in a row.  |
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What list was it on please.
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was on the notebook 2013/2104 list, that list is 4 months old now, going to start another list of 200/300 horses in febuary.
always need fresh supply of winners to keep the profits rolling in, hoping going to strike it lucky in the summer, will be doing 10 pence accumulators with 6/7/8 selections and trying to win 500k. as kevin blakes says ITCANBEDONE |
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october 5th 2013 notebook winners
notebooked on DARK ANGEL THREAD heavens guest 9/1 yojojo 20/1 sound hearts 12/1 notebooked on 2013/2014 list top notch tonto 5/1 ingleby angel 5/1 wedding ring 11/4 tanshi 8/1 perfect pasture 11/4 4,738240/1 would of payed 474k for a 10 pence bet, all those horses where put on this forum, every one of them notebooked on here. would be foolish not to try and land a bet that like this in the summer, not going to cost me much to put on a few lines every saturday. |
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I must be going blind....where did you say he was on this list?...........
LA TINTA BAY 7/2 PILATES 5/2 DANGEROUS MIDGE 11/4 MCDELTA 20/1 FEEL THE HEAT 11/1 LYN VALLEY 2/1 AQUILONIUS 16/1 DEEDS NOT WORDS 4/1 SLIP SLIDING AWAY 20/1 MUSICORA 3/1 THE DARK WIZARD 4/1 FINN CLASS 6/4 PROSPERA 3/1 ELYSIAN PRINCE 7/4 DISCAY 5/2 MISHAAL 7/2 CRIMSON QUEEN 3/1 PERFECT ALCHEMY 6/4 ACCILO 40/1 DOVILS DUEL 3/1 RADIATOR 11/10 MULTI BENE 9/1 BRIAN NOBLE 9/4 CONROW 8/1 DEGLET NOOR 33/1 MARMALADY 2/5 SHANKLY 6/1 TANTSHI 7/2 VIKING STORM 14/1 AMULET 25/1 THE GREAT GABRIAL 7/1 CORAL MIST 11/10 BOP IT 4/1 BIG JOHNNY D 2/1 ENNSITOWN 11/2 BASIL BERRY 4/1 MISTY SPARKLER 10/1 SOUND REFLECTION 8/15 CAT O MOUNTAIN 3/1 FLYING BEAR 7/2 TABLEFORTEN 8/1 LANANSAAK 6/1 TOP NOTCH TONTO 22/1 CHIEF BAKER 5/4 NEARLY CAUGHT 3/1 GRAPHIC 9/1 BROWN SUGAR 11/2 FOOTSTEPSINTHERAIN 10/1 INDEGO BLUES 4/1 AERONWYN BRYN 7/1 RHOMBUS 7/2 STORM MOON 10/1 DILETTA THOMAS 14/1 ROYAL ALCOR 5/2 REMEMBER 7/2 ALPHABET RAP 13/2 HALLELUJAH 7/1 COSMIC HALO 33/1 EAGLE ROCK 8/1 LANCELOT DU LAC 3/1 MONTEFELTRO 7/1 |
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your just mistaken, done 6 lists on that thread total 327 horses notebooked between sep 2nd and oct 13, roughly 6 weeks worth.
just so happens perfect pasture was the most prolific winner, clues where there after its 3rd win at redcar, ran 1.32 faster than the other 5f race on the card both class 5 races and was carrying 12lbs more than thatcherite and won easily. |
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Your probably right rr.....
 .....but if you wouldn't mind showing me what list he was on......can't seem to find him.... Just for educational purposes. |
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When your ready there RR......no rush.
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I have one simple, profitable rule when it comes to the Aw
BACK KIRBY WHEN THE MONEYS DOWN  |
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^^^Yeah, I find similar with Botti. Would have Kirky over Harley as well. I thought he'd get the Botti job. Pity, very good AW jockey that can prove himself better than that if given the ammo. Guessing, but I'd say he is strong numerically/statistically the last few years.
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Gig's exposed them again.
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who are you and what are you talking about posting on the thread about gigs exposing them again?
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class 4 10f lingfield handicap
SWIVEL 1st 5/6 has won 3 in a row now, still only had the 4 runs, time was nothing special, seems to be progressing nicely. unlikely to be going off a big prices for future races. mark johnston trained and this could be a big improver hopefully. michael appleby is very good trainer and is buying lot of cast offs from other trainers and improving the horses quickly. |
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Applebys paying for my second house!
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Yep, a 10 grand double, won,t be long before you will be able to buy the rest of the street.
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Only idiots bet in thousands pa I don't need to bet in those sort of stakes,besides getting on would be an impossibility!
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Only idiots bet in thousands pa I don't need to bet in those sort of stakes,besides getting on would be an impossibility!
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Thought you said the two Appleby winners paid for your second house? Thanks for letting us know,i,ll sleep better for it.
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I mean't in general not two winners
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Fair enough,thanks for letting us know things are going well in regards the purchase of your 2nd property,keep the thread updated please.
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14:00 Southwell (A.W.), 30 Jan 20146f
Compare Bookmakers At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Class 6) (4YO plus) Winner £2,264 - 7 ran Standard McBookie.com Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR 1 Black, white seams, white sleeves, black armlets, black cap 5. Star Up In The Sky (USA) (2)ATR Tracker 11/4 2Fav 4 9 - 1b G Lee K A Ryan 53 made all, driven clear over 1f out, ran on well 2 4½ Dark blue, yellow hoops, chevrons on sleeves, yellow cap 7. Orwellian (7)ATR Tracker 10/1 5 8 - 11 P Aspell B Smart 49 slowly into stride, chased leaders, driven to challenge over 2f out, kept on under pressure closing stages, no chance with winner 3 ¾ Red, white diamond, white sleeves, red armlets, red cap, white diamond 1. Layla's Hero (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 2/1 Fav 7 9 - 13 (ex6)v Adrian Nicholls D Nicholls 65 slowly into stride, reminders, driven and headway on outside at halfway, chased leaders over 1f out, no extra closing stages 4 2½ Yellow, black hoop, black sleeves, yellow armlets, quartered cap 6. Upper Lambourn (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 4/1 6 8 - 11t J Fanning C N Kellett 49 tracked leaders, outpaced halfway, rallied over 1f out, never able to challenge 5 1¼ Dark blue, red spots 3. Gebayl (8)ATR Tracker 16/1 4 9 - 2t1 M Coumbe (3) R Ingram 57 tracked leader, driven to challenge well over 2f out, soon one pace, faded final furlong 6 hd Dark blue, white cross belts, halved sleeves, white cap 8. Molly Jones (3)ATR Tracker 50/1 5 8 - 10 L P Keniry D Haydn Jones 48 dwelt, tracked leaders, weakened well over 1f out 7 1¼ Red, royal blue seams, red sleeves, royal blue stars, red cap, royal blue star 4. Triple Aitch (USA) (6)ATR Tracker 5/1 4 9 - 0 H Poulton (5) G C Bravery 57 in touch, effort 2f out, soon weakened Light blue, pink star, pink sleeves, light blue stars, pink cap, light blue star 2. Girl At The Sands (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker Non Runner 59 Off Time:14:00:43 Winning Time:1m 14.84s Star up in the sky When I first saw this result thought the time looked exceptional for a 53 rated runner,but track was riding very quick I still think it was pretty good but with the penalty which will be 10 pound then the time is negated to what about a horse of 63 would produce on that surface.But this was only second run since September,penultimate run behind Basingstoke was the race I put on here being the fastest of the season over 7fs that race has worked out exceptionally well George Benjamin and todays winner plus three places already coming out of the race. Today she was dropped back to 6fs and they were virtuially all in a line with 2fs to go,probably confirming they didn't go that quick early but she quickened impressively.She was a winner off 73 in august 2012 she's still only had 13 races she also could be versatile with the amount of ear;ly pace she shows,infact she has looked a little to keen she maybe even more interesting give a chance over the straight 5fs.She could turn out to be a big improver on this surface and one to fiollow! |
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17:50 Kempton (A.W.), 29 Jan 20147f
Visit And Dine In The Panoramic Handicap (Class 7) (4YO plus) Winner £1,617 - 14 ran Standard Weighed In Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR 1 Black, white chevrons on sleeves, white cap 9. Starbotton (3)ATR Tracker 11/2 4 9 - 2 J P Spencer J D Bethell 45 made all, ridden clear over 1f out, kept on well 2 2¼ Yellow, light green epaulets and sleeves 4. Six Silver Lane (9)ATR Tracker 3/1 Fav 6 9 - 6v G Baker D Shaw 49 tracked leaders on inside, ridden and went 2nd over 1f out, stayed on inside final furlong, no threat to winner 3 3¼ Brown, white halved sleeves 5. Fleetwoodsands (IRE) (13)ATR Tracker 6/1 7 9 - 5tb S M Levey P D Evans 48 pulled hard, in touch in mid-division, ridden 2f out, headway over 1f out, went 3rd inside final furlong, stayed on 4 ¾ Purple, emerald green striped sleeves, white cap 13. Salford Prince (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker 8/1 6 9 - 2b L P Keniry D R C Elsworth 45 prominent, ridden over 2f out, stayed on same pace inside final furlong 5 ½ Orange, royal blue diamond, diamonds on sleeves, orange cap, royal blue diamond 12. Ryedale Lass (4)ATR Tracker 6/1 6 9 - 2b R Kingscote Geoffrey Deacon 45 prominent, ridden over 1f out, stayed on same pace inside final furlong, no extra close home 6 1¾ Red, dark blue and red striped sleeves 1. Glennten (5)ATR Tracker 20/1 5 9 - 2b Josh Baudains (5) S Kirk 50 held up in touch in mid-division, ridden over 2f out, one pace and no impression 7 nse Emerald green and orange check 3. Strategic Action (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 10/1 5 9 - 6 R Havlin Mrs L C Jewell 49 tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, one pace and no impression inside final furlong 8 1¼ Maroon and grey stripes, grey sleeves 11. Surrey Dream (IRE) (8)ATR Tracker 8/1 5 9 - 2 A Kirby J J Bridger 45 held up towards rear, ridden over 1f out, never dangerous 9 hd Dark green, yellow stripe, armlets and cap 2. Flow Chart (IRE) (12)ATR Tracker 20/1 7 9 - 4 S O'Hara (3) Peter Grayson 50 not much room start, held up in rear, ridden over 1f out, some late headway, never any chance 10 ½ Grey, mauve hoop, grey sleeves, orange armlets, mauve cap 10. Chester Deelyte (IRE) (10)ATR Tracker 33/1 6 8 - 13v M Coumbe (3) Mrs L Williamson 45 mid-division, ridden over 2f out, soon hampered and switched left, no headway 11 1¾ Royal blue, red hoops, red and royal blue halved sleeves 8. Mucky Molly (7)ATR Tracker 9/2 2Fav 6 9 - 3tv T Eaves Alison Hutchinson 46 not much room start, held up towards rear, ridden over 2f out, well beaten over 1f out 12 1½ Light green, yellow star, light green sleeves, yellow stars, light green cap, yellow star 14. Coach Montana (IRE) (11)ATR Tracker 50/1 5 9 - 2hp1 Adam Beschizza Mrs C A Dunnett 45 tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, lost place over 1f out, soon weakened 13 ½ Red and royal blue stripes, yellow sleeves, emerald green cap 6. Kaylee (6)ATR Tracker 50/1 5 9 - 5v1 C Catlin B R Johnson 48 held up towards rear, ridden and well beaten over 1f out 14 1 Red, purple chevrons, red sleeves, red cap, purple star 7. Michael's Nook (14)ATR Tracker 25/1 7 9 - 5p Luke Morris A J Lidderdale 48 held up towards rear, ridden over 2f out, soon well beaten Off Time:17:52:51 Winning Time:1m 25.36s Starbotton Lowest grade racing,but for the grade quite a decent time for horses rated 45 and 49 the second six silver lane also maybe worth following again back at this trip and particularly both of them at this track.Compared to starbottons other recent aw runs the time was very favourable so this track may well have brought about improved form,this race only .96 slower than the class 4 on the card.The third in this race was another 3ls back,they'll be out again in same grade and probably be overpriced,no reason why the winner and runnerup cannot win again over this c/d off these marks... |
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Giggilo- Any chance to stop ruining the speed figures for others who work very hard on getting prices before the odds compilers cop on. Is it an ego problem you have or bored??? because this is not on, you work hard and then give the price away, don`t understand it really and now you have Roadrunner doing the same???? What`s that all about????? Cheers
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One more for the road.
14:40 Southwell (A.W.), 4 Feb 20146f Best Odds At bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Stakes (Class 5) (3YO plus) Winner £3,068 - 11 ran Standard Archive Video Weighed In Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR 1 Red, red cap, white spots 4. Bretherton (9)ATR Tracker 5/4 Fav 3 8 - 12b1 G Lee R A Fahey 70 close up, led over 1f out, soon clear, ran on, eased towards finish, comfortable 2 9 Red, black seams, white sleeves, black armlets, black cap 7. Jaeger Train (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 9/2 3 8 - 7v1 Joey Haynes (5) K R Burke - tracked leaders, went 2nd halfway, ridden and every chance over 1f out, soon outpaced by winner 3 ½ White, dark blue and white check sleeves, dark blue cap 9. Royal Encounter (1)ATR Tracker 7/2 2Fav 3 8 - 12 J Quinn E F Vaughan - led over 4f out, ridden and headed over 1f out, kept on one pace 4 3½ Royal blue, pink chevrons, royal blue cap 1. Spowarticus (8)ATR Tracker 100/1 5 9 - 6 Matthew Hopkins (7) S Dixon - led, headed over 4f out, tracked leaders, ridden over 3f out, kept on same pace from over 1f out 5 5 Red, yellow stripe, chevrons on sleeves 5. Hot Stock (FR) (10)ATR Tracker 6/1 3 8 - 12 B A Curtis J Hughes 62 raced wide tracked leader until ridden halfway, weakened over 1f out 6 3¼ Light blue, orange epaulets 10. Ventura Reef (IRE) (11)ATR Tracker 33/1 3 8 - 5 Josh Quinn (7) R A Fahey - outpaced, ridden 4f out, never near leaders 7 1 Dark blue, white chevron and armlets, red cap 11. Trefnant (IRE) (3)ATR Tracker 100/1 3 8 - 2 Shelley Birkett (5) C A Dwyer - mid-division, ridden over 3f out, soon weakened 8 ½ Pink, light blue cross belts and armlets, quartered cap 3. Beatabout The Bush (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 14/1 3 8 - 12 T P Queally C Hills 57 mid-division, ridden over 3f out, soon outpaced 9 2 Light blue and yellow check, red sleeves and cap 6. Incurs Four Faults (7)ATR Tracker 12/1 3 8 - 12 T Eaves K Dalgleish - very slowly, away outpaced 10 ½ Black, yellow spots on sleeves 2. Saktoon (USA) (5)ATR Tracker 100/1 6 9 - 8v D Swift D Shaw 45 towards rear, ridden and outpaced 4f out 11 7 Light green, purple stars 8. Robbian (6)ATR Tracker 100/1 3 8 - 12 A Mullen C Smith - slowly into stride, outpaced Off Time:14:42:20 Winning Time:1m 16.37s Bretherton This could turn out to be one of the nicest if not the best 3yr old run at swell this season,showing moderate form previously on the poly was on a mark of 70 in this maiden.He was in first time blinkers and his classic action on the surface made him look a natural,the time was only .17 slower than abi scarlet hacking up in the class 4 older handicap off 8-4 rated 71 bretherton carried 8-12 yet hacked up and could've won another 3-4ls.On those figures alone it would suggest that bretherton is top class handicapper a mark of 90 could even be conservative on todays times.The new handicap mark should be really interesting,he should get underestimated on previous form and he maybe one that eventually ends up in America,a very interesting and exciting prospect!! |
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Still waiting on the list with Perfect Pasture on RR......anytime you like.......after you get home from school will be fine.
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Funny feeling this might spur him into action JR!!
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See your thread got removed J R Hartley,odd. Was it seen as advertising(not by you J R) or what?
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Strange one Pa....as it's an old thread.....forgotten all about it tbh until the gigalo dug it up at two o'clock in the morning....no doubt sobered up and realised what a t1t he made of himself....
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A powerful man with de shades indeed, surely all this AW stuff should be solely only be on the main horse racing forum, maybe we are just too mannerly on this forum. |
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I think he's also boring them to death over there Pa........He certainly has a powerful influence on young Roadrunner though.....earlier in this thread RR proclaims that a horse that won
a southwell handicap off a mark of 62 after getting beat off marks 65 & 63 is really a 75 horse!.......left me wondering where he got that from until i read this gem from gigalo... '.17 slower than abi scarlet hacking up in the class 4 older handicap off 8-4 rated 71 bretherton carried 8-12 yet hacked up and could've won another 3-4ls.On those figures alone it would suggest that bretherton is top class handicapper a mark of 90 could even be conservative on todays times'.He posted the same drivel on the horse racing forum only adding.......'i hope the handicapper isn't reading this'...... |
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A few decent posters gave him a good word and on that part fair enough, the vast majority haven,t a clue whether they were put up beforehand and to see the long lists on your thread that got removed with accompanying emoticons smacked of blowing your own trumpet, also the reference above to buying a second house on the proceeds of winners also smacked of same. All might well be very true but until they are put up beforehand on here is it really right to come on here after the result with your shades? Answer has to be no. No interest in backing your selection btw as very rarely do an AW bet.
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perfect pasture is on the 2013/2014 notebook list on page 3/4
HTH thanks for putting those horses on the thread.two runners so far from me that have lost from this thread, silken express beaten by (SWISS CROSS) tipped that on here way back in april last year on the flat racing selections thread, was badly hampered at the start back then and nassua stormthink that didnt get the strong pace it needed to win, still made the place money. class 5 5f kempton handicap DANDY YANK 1ST 9/1 just started to win now 2 wins from 10 races and likes winning at good prices 10/1 and 8/1 so far. |