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ALL WEATHER THREAD 2014 SOUTHWELL / KEMPTON / WOLVES / LINGFIELD

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By:
J.R.Hartley
When: 06 Feb 14 21:40
I'm beginning to suspect you're telling porkies rr......Laugh......i do hope i'm mistaken.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 06 Feb 14 22:13
see that horse BRETHERTON'S  formline has already produced a winner with EX EX winning last night, who named that horseLaugh

class 4 8f kempton handicap

DIXIES DREAM 1ST 5/1 turning into a good horse seems love racing around kempton, looks solid class 4 performer and
you never know could win at higher level off a low weight, good racing style when it gets going, remember when that beat
TASRIH.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 07 Feb 14 14:03
amazing how you get people complaining about putting up speed figure horses on a thread, ruining things for others.
no point in having racing threads if the info is useless and of little value, then you get other clueless posters
who constantly whine about the info, yet offer SWFA when its comes to knowing anything or offering any future winners
themselves, yet seek to have a laugh with themselves about their own musings.Laugh
By:
pa lapsy
When: 08 Feb 14 15:56
Perfect Pastures 6f C2 3.45 Lingfield 08/02/14
Notebooked on heaven knows when, the previous course and distance winner was well stuffed at an sp of 4/1.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 08 Feb 14 23:17
15:45 Lingfield (A.W.), 8 Feb 20146f
Compare Bookmakers At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Class 2) (4YO plus)
Winner £12,291 - 12 ran
Standard


Archive Video
Weighed In

Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1 Pink, purple sash and sleeves, quartered cap 6. Rivellino (5)ATR Tracker 8/1 4 9 - 1 D Tudhope
K R Burke
94

2 nk Pink, light green cross belts, white sleeves, light green cap 4. Alben Star (IRE) (7)ATR Tracker 10/1 6 9 - 1 George Chaloner (3)
R A Fahey
97

3 nk Yellow, dark blue spots on sleeves 11. Absolutely So (IRE) (9)ATR Tracker 5/2 Fav 4 8 - 8 David Probert
A M Balding
87

4 2¼ Orange, emerald green sleeves, orange armlets, quartered cap 2. Perfect Pasture (1)ATR Tracker 4/1 2Fav 4 9 - 7v G Gibbons
M W Easterby
100

5 shd White, red sash, red and white striped cap 7. Iptisam (3)ATR Tracker 5/1 5 8 - 12p Luke Morris
J Tate
91

6 1 Dark blue, pink cross of lorraine, sleeves and cap 9. Noble Deed (2)ATR Tracker 20/1 4 8 - 9 Liam Jones
M J Attwater
88

7 nk Red, grey sleeves, red and grey hooped cap 10. Taajub (IRE) (8)ATR Tracker 33/1 7 8 - 9 S W Kelly
P Crate
88

8 ½ Red, mauve epaulets and star on cap 5. Piscean (USA) (11)ATR Tracker 33/1 9 9 - 2 G Baker
T Keddy
95

9 1½ Light blue, light blue and pink diabolo on sleeves 1. Nocturn (6)ATR Tracker 6/1 5 9 - 7p L Dettori
J Noseda
100

10 ¾ Orange, emerald green stars on sleeves 8. Clockmaker (IRE) (12)ATR Tracker 50/1 8 8 - 11 Hayley Turner
C R Dore
90

11 1 Dark blue, pink spots, sleeves and cap 3. Woolfall Sovereign (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 20/1 8 9 - 4 Barry McHugh
G G Margarson
97

12 ½ Pink, emerald green diamonds on sleeves, pink cap, emerald green diamond 12. Diamond Charlie (IRE) (10)ATR Tracker 14/1 6 8 - 8 J P Spencer
S Dow
87


Off Time:15:45:40
Winning Time:1m 9.70s

Piscean

Veteran now at 9 but a decent aw handicapper on his day,he's 8/31 on the aw hadn't run since October,he was drawn 11 today George baker dropping in conceding 3/4ls in doinng so having very little chance from that break.He eventually made up ground into midfield and once hitting the furlong pole was allowed to come home in his own time.This was an encouraging run with ground conceded and ridden with some nice handicaps coming up in mind,plus he will be huge prices.
This time last year he won off 98 beating York glory off levels rated 103 at wolves,york glory runner up in group race last year on turf,piscean then followed that up with 2nd to tarooq off 100,tarooqs alreay won off 99 this aw season winning even better race than todays.The run today shows piscean maybe about to hit form and ridden with that in mind,he runs well at wolves and lingfield, off these sort of marks on the aw he's dangerous and the prices will be value.He ran off 95 today lowest winning mark on the aw since December 2012,he retains ability and looks worth following over remainder of season!ShockedCool
By:
dj876
When: 09 Feb 14 00:02
The Sand King and his protege Beep Beep are keeping the Aftertime Arms liquid!
By:
thegiggilo
When: 09 Feb 14 00:17
Not just the sand!Cool
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 09 Feb 14 14:43
class 6 8f southwell handicap

HOT RIGHT NOW 1st 33/1 has won twice over C/D only raced 5 times and is well bred by SLEEPING INDIAN which is a totally
underrated stallion, one that have mentioned many times on the bloodstock forum, also by grand lodge on the dam side,
lightly raced and trained by k burke, good with these young horses. OR 62 could be a 75 horse.


Stuffed at Evs Fav.....

Don't worry gigilo will send you a few more for your notebook....Cry
By:
roadrunner46
When: 09 Feb 14 17:30
HILLYBILLY BOY placed 2nd at 13/2 went as low as 1.5 IR place paid 2.95 and HOT RIGHT NOW 2nd at 1/1 place paid 1/2.
see noble citzen got another win today, im sure thats been mentioned on this thread a few times.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 09 Feb 14 17:42
forgot to add this one NICK THE ODDS 1ST 6/5 thought that was a good name
By:
thegiggilo
When: 09 Feb 14 20:49
Could the moderators tell me why this isn't being submitted please,or will it appear later thankyou.

16:10 Southwell (A.W.), 9 Feb 20147f
Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes (Class 5) (3YO plus)
Winner £3,234 - 7 ran
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Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1 Red, black stars, red sleeves 5. Tigers In Red (USA) (1)ATR Tracker 5/2 2Fav 3 8 - 10 L P Keniry
D M Simcock
-

2 2½ Gold and black check, pink sleeves and cap 4. Moonlight Venture (7)ATR Tracker 8/1 3 8 - 10 T Hamilton
K A Ryan
-

3 1¼ Dark blue, red disc, white sleeves, red cap 6. On Demand (3)ATR Tracker 5/4 Fav 3 8 - 5 David Probert
A M Balding
-

4 5 Black, grey hoops 2. Captain Swift (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 8/1 3 8 - 7b1 William Twiston-Davies (3)
B J Meehan
70

5 12 Emerald green, white braces, checked sleeves and cap 1. Nellies Quest (5)ATR Tracker 20/1 5 9 - 1 A Rawlinson (7)
M Appleby
-

6 3¼ Emerald green, royal blue triple diamond, royal blue cap, emerald green diamond 7. Sicilian Bay (IRE) (6)ATR Tracker 100/1 3 8 - 0 Shirley Teasdale (5)
P T Midgley
-

7 15 Cherry, black sash, primrose and white quartered cap 3. Every Honour (4)ATR Tracker 5/1 3 8 - 10 J Fanning
M Johnston
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Off Time:16:11:01
Winning Time:1m 29.50s

Tigers in red
Moonlight venture

This looks rock solid form backed up by the clock and the following 7f handicap,the time of the maiden only .16 slower than 77 rated older handicap winner the great gabrial,winner tigers in red half briother to snowboarder 111 out of spieghtstown.He won with a bit in hand at finish,you take repetition as the marker coming second in the older handicap off 71 that would have tigers in red on a mark of 70 with lots of improvement to come but running against own age group as 3yr old.He looks 80 horse on this run with probable even more improvement,the handicappers mark will be interesting as the form looks really solid with a bit of handicap form in behind from captain swift and the maiden on demand came out of at sailsbury.The second was nowhere near as convincing under pressure for most of the race,running green and hanging will probably see headgear on next time out but also half brother to wionner on surface 89 rated beautiful day.There is also some stamina in pedigree so may even improve with distance!!!!
By:
thegiggilo
When: 09 Feb 14 23:34
Thanks!Cool
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 00:07
thanks for posting those horses, thread needs an extra reliable source of future winners. clogging up with useless postings from
so called experts who all know their onions supposedly, who just post on here to wind me upLaugh
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 19:15
class 5 6f kempton handicap

EX EX 1ST 11/10 won very easily by 2 1/2 lengths, still lightly raced with only 5 runs and two wins so far, 4yo now and
has started racing only a few months ago, looks to be going the right way. has beaten a good sort bretherton giving lots
of weight that day.
By:
easygold
When: 10 Feb 14 21:20
Roadrunner== The Copycat Giggilo say no more???
By:
J.R.Hartley
When: 10 Feb 14 21:28
What a certainly EX EX was in hindsight...Sad...as rr has mentioned he gave 16lb and a beating to  bretherton last time out....a horse that all weather expert giglo has given a

'conservative' rating of 90!.....that makes EX EX a group 2 performer in my book......ran off 70 today....Cry

Won't find a bigger certainty in a month of sundays.....oh hang on Bretherton runs on Thursday off 70....even with a 6lb penulty he must have a stone in hand....oh joy!!!!!ExcitedExcited
Hope the handicapper isn't reading this.....Whoops
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 21:37
when any of you want to take the selection challenge, will be waiting for you. Laugh

start your own threads aswell, would be shocked if you find more 10 winnersLaugh
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 21:46
I,ll challenge ya Roadrunner.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 21:47
your not good enough sorryLaugh
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 21:49
Maybe not,just wanted to see something put up beforehand. But of course that could shatter the illusion RRWink
By:
J.R.Hartley
When: 10 Feb 14 21:49
You schoolkids have such imagination.....Laugh....will it be like top trumps were we have to post our selections after the racing has finished and compare prices......LaughLaughLaugh
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 21:56
will make you silly, average about 30 winners a week easily. dont take up the challenge i can only assume your
not upto the challenge.Laugh just like all the others you find that contribute nonsense 24/7 on this thread.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 22:00
you where very interested in HOT RIGHT NOW the other day , what was the value bet when it raced, was it 1/1 for the win or 1/2 for the place JR HARTLEY?
By:
callitasucit
When: 10 Feb 14 22:01
roadrunner46  • February 10, 2014 9:47 PM GMT 


your not good enough sorryLaugh



The fu**in irony of it,......brilliant!! Have to say RR, you're some craic! Keep them coming.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 22:06
I,m well up for it alright RR, not afraid of looking silly,don,t worry on that score as it wouldn,t be the first or last time.
You talk the talk but no mention of runners on any list on all the threads beforehand until after they have won. Nick the Odds got a mention earlier in the thread as a notebook horse as he is running tomorrow while i accept like most runners have a chance but the question for you is does he have a good chance and constitute a bet?,or will we not mention him until after the race is finished?
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 22:09
count how many horses that have been mentioned on this thread by me

2 winners
3 2nds
1 unplaced 3rd

have put my best notebooks on here, not once did anyone ever admit to backing one of them. or thank me.
dont forget got 28 winners in the month of october and had two saturdays 5 winning notebooks.
By:
callitasucit
When: 10 Feb 14 22:10
I think he just liked the name of that one Pa!! That's how my Granny picked em. She wasn't as funny as RR, but even in her latter stages of dementia, she had more cop on than the boy.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 22:12
now you hear alot about the dreaded long losing runs for gamblers, my notebooks dont have long losing runs,
because they average a winner every two daysLaugh
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 22:15
No qualms in regards you putting up your notebook,what is lacking is you putting your many notebook selections up before a race and attention is only drawn after the race. You have an opportunity to discuss your notebook selection Nick The Odds chances beforehand, nothing stopping you.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 22:18
Very possible Callit, no harm in putting your Notebook selections up beforehand though RR,surely you use horse tracker or whatever,too easy to pluck one from your lists after as they are both many horses and many lists.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 22:19
put the horse up the other day, already won a race, now you want me to tell you to back it tomoro or not?
as far as im concerned the horse has already done the business and repayed my faith. you brought up perfect pasture
the other day, dont think ive ever seen a horse win 7 times in a row and most of those wins coming on the AW,
what happened in the race, was won by the horse which had the form behind PP. still managed to whine about itLaugh
By:
callitasucit
When: 10 Feb 14 22:25
roadrunner46  • February 10, 2014 10:12 PM GMT 


now you hear alot about the dreaded long losing runs for gamblers, my notebooks dont have long losing runs,
because they average a winner every two days



That's because you have about 1200 runners every two days!!
By:
neill d
When: 10 Feb 14 22:36
When Aidan O'Brien does his traditional Leopardstown gallop, someone be sure to stick up a list of those horses. There will be plenty of winners in there... in fact I'd say twould be best to put up everything by Galileo and Montjeu. To cover the rest of the bases throw in the Juddmonte reciprocals by Oasis Dream and Dansili. Also, put in Fastnetrock, they've stuck a lot of eggs in that basket... and High Chaperal has had a bit of a mini-revival.. best mention him too. And sure if you liked these, you'd have to put in the Darley crew of New Approach and Teofilo, sure aren't they essentially Coolmore. And I'm nearly sure STS is a half brother to Galileo, I'd have him on my radar for the same reason as Fastnet, eggs in baskets. There'll be winners in this list, as well as almost any half-decent European horse in training.

Back the progeny of these stallions and you will make it rain money. Don King said "Only in America", not strictly true.
"Mohammad took us to the mountain... I want to take us to the bank."
By:
roadrunner46
When: 10 Feb 14 22:38
there was good race today on the AW 4.30 at wolves, have a look at the winners profile and try to understand
why it won that race, and then take a look at the 11/8 favs profile, ive always found the class 4 race's are
perfect race's for beginners to learn from.Laugh
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Feb 14 22:42
Stop bullying him, lads.  Take it with a pinch of salt and just let him be. He's harmless.
By:
neill d
When: 10 Feb 14 22:43
Not every day, but if you could tell us before the race occasionally, that would be great.

Would like your opinion on a horse that ran at Wolverhampton on Saturday night. Lineman is his name.
Ex-weld but by a sire I wouldn't like in Rail Link.
He went off short-enough in a Tipp maiden last summer and finished mid-div. hadn't shown too much in England until Saturday night where he was a close enough third behind a well-handicapped horse of Fahey's that got a good ride from tony Hamilton.
He has only just turned 4 and is a big shell of a horse that wants either decent ground or an artificial surface. I think he is better than his mark and will win races on the all-weather. Will get back on the day he runs next (actually probably the evening before) and assess the shape of the race.
By:
neill d
When: 10 Feb 14 22:44
You're right of course Ozy, that was in jest which I should have made clear with a smiley. No problem with someone highlighting horses of interest here, but a bit of discussion of their merits on the day would be a help too. If the guy is putting in as much work as he lets on, we could probably use him.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Feb 14 22:44
Or simply block him if he bothers you that much.  Just whatever you do, don't bother trying to introduce logic into the discussion, it's a complete waste of your time.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 10 Feb 14 22:47
Old Pa Lapsy, throwing his weight around in a school playground, challenging young lads, should know better.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Feb 14 22:59
Where Ozymandius? Roadrunner wanted a selection challenge, i obliged. Saying it as i see it as well in regards the selection being highlighted after a race and not beforehand, no intention on my part for what you are describing as cyber bullying but thats just your style.
Halfsin in that 4.30 is a huge brute of a thing and stole the race by kicking early,dropped from being well beaten in C2 was back in a winnable grade today.
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