Its fairly clear what's going on here Pa.  Best left alone.  Let him be and let him enjoy himself.

wouldnt know about other peoples horses, said it many times before concentrate on certain races, because dont watch
any horse racing, dont really notice horses finishing out of the places. ive got my formula that works well. most
of the races, bet in are class 6 and 5 races, always good when horse makes class 4 standard, most of then never will.
thats why anyone wanting to learn more about how the formbook works would be wise to concentrate around class 4 races,
good starting point, most of the winners are through association with other runners or previous winners, make it my business to find the right formlines and the prolific winners, dont think you can teach that to someone, your brain either makes the right connections and you find the winners easily or you struggle and can never make sense of the form. always remember the good performances by horses, and remember them in my MIND PALACE. everyday check the results
and make a mental note of horses that will be potential bets in the future. employ lots of variables in working out
which ones might be potential notebooks, could be winning price, winning distance, just a name i like
whole handicap system is based around horses improving, so thats what im looking for all the time, potential improvers. HTH

caramack beats smalljohn

smalljohn wins

caramcak wins again

alumina beats el duque and wiki tiki

el duque wins and wiki tiki wins

alumina wins again

maggie pink beats imagianry world

imaginary world win

associations through formlines and recent winners. making the right connections in the right races and things
like this happen.

what about joe eile tommorow rr the former ger lyons horse now with john quinn off the same mark he won off at naas in june.....

God bless him.......our races are defined by handicap ratings a 47-65 handicap would be our poorest quality race.....this is for horses rated between 47 and 65... incredible isn't

it......we also have 50-80 hcps....60-90......etc.........i sure you'll get the hang of it.......were not as thick as that lot in England you see...we are expected to know what we are looking at.....

wowee!!what logic..hes a beaut..put us up a winner for today lad..go on..

On another note i quite like the chances of Joe eile.....every chance he'll handle the surface seems quite versatile regarding ground...won at Dundalk and the Curragh on heavy ground also

won at navan off this mark on yielding ground.

If the lad doesn't go too soon on him i think he'll win.

Easy these ones.

Stick up fast horse. After the race it wins, you come on with the usual. It loses, we didn't back it.



I rest my case, my fellow brethertons.

And I know if these guys were serious about backing horses ahead of the handicapper with serious cash in the bookies at inflated prices they wouldn't be sticking them up on every forum in advance to the blokes who they are competing against to get these prices!!!

Ridiculous thread.

roadrunner you couldn't pick your nose without gigilo.

How does it feel having to wait for the nod from another punter for your bets??????

What a couple of days i've had.........after doing my conkers on Joe Eile i decided that enough was enough i'll listen to the Professionals.........no not Bodie and

Doyle.....Roadrunner and Gigalo.
First up was R&rs recommended shockingly short priced double.......Chelsea and oh it doesn't matter......

Next up Gigalo......Bretherton the stone wall certainly.....the 'top class 91 rated handicapper' running of 70 in a class 6 at Kempton...what happens?....gets run over by two yaks....how could this have happened!!!!!!!!

Our very own Scouse Tony regularly goes through the card on here.

Not considered a big deal on this forum given the quality of the contributors.  Would be forgotten about by the next day.

Must be a lot of 'top class 90+ handicappers running off 70 at southwell Kenco.....

Go easy on him Ozy...he's obviously lost....luckily he's managed to stumble across a thread to support his chum....what were the odds of that?......more than going through the card at Southwell i'd wager...

kenco
     13 Feb 14 21:57   









roadrunner46
     12 Feb 14 19:38 

fxxx off grumpy old fool, the horse was backed into 5/4 from 4/1 you silly xxxx, thats free bet, where are you when one wins
you silly xxxx, now go and do one. he went through the southwell card yesterdayLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


Think he had 6/7 winners didn't go through the card,that was the previous meeting!ShockedYet to see anyone put up previews on the net anywhere and get results like that and all for everyone to see,long may it continue!


Of course it will continue as long as I get the time,just a pity that fruit pastille hadn't got up would've been fullhouse again!

Kenco 21.57  "Yet to see anyone put up previews on the net anywhere"
Any chance of giving us a link to the "previews" beforehand and could you please till us when the next "preview" is with accompanying link?.
No interest in either backing or for that matter watching AW just be interested to know beforehand how the next "preview" does rather than afterwards.
Thanks in advance.

whats really insane is the views go up by 500, after few posters post a load of dribble.

That's not really how it works Pa.... i'm sure Gigalo will be along to let us know how he got on when he finds the time.

How have you got on today Pa?......backed 12 winners myself.....

EX EX ran yesterday off 10.2 lbs well OVER weighted for this race and was always going to be very competitive race, was well backed
from 7/2 into 11/10, on another note backed the winner, first two home had been in sparkling form. what was really amazing
the tricast paid £1500, dont think would of taken many lines to land that. racing lately has been exceptional, lots of horses that
have been holding their form so, and mostly they have already racked up lots of wins, have not been worth putting down as notebook,
on this thread.

class 5 6f lingfiled handicap

TEMPLE ROAD 3rd 7/1 just beaten over 1.5 lengths, has showed promise in the past and could be coming into a bit of form now,
only raced less than 20 times and won three, not a bad sprinter in these type of races. will wait and see. gl all

NICK THE ODDS ran the other day as well off 9.13 lbs another well OVER weighted, and another gamble on that too, memory serves me well
about 7/1 or 8/1 the night before and was well backed into 5/2 fav.

class 5 7f southwell handicap

FRUIT PASTILLE 2nd beaten 1/2 length after missing the break, no doubt would of won the race with a good start, raced 6 times
and still maiden, hopefully should be winning soon, most likely to go off fav in a weaker race. well bred by pastoral pursuits.

14:50 Lingfield (A.W.), 15 Feb 20146f
32red Handicap (Class 3) (3YO only)
Winner £7,439 - 9 ran
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Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1 Yellow and red (halved horizontally), black and red halved sleeves, quartered cap 4. Harwoods Volante (IRE) (9)ATR Tracker 5/1 3 9 - 3 R Havlin
Mrs A J Perrett
86
went left start tracked leader, ridden to lead over 1f out, driven inside final furlong, all out
2 shd Royal blue, white sash, white sleeves, royal blue armlets, red cap 8. Drive On (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 9/2 J2Fav 3 8 - 8p J P Fahy
Eve Johnson Houghton
77
dwelt in rear, headway on inner over 1f out, pressed winner inside final furlong, just held
3 nk Purple, pink sleeves, purple spots, pink cap, purple spots 3. Golden Amber (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker 8/1 3 9 - 5 Jim Crowley
D K Ivory
88
tracked leaders, ridden over 2f out, effort and every chance inside final furlong, not quicken near finish
4 nk Orange and purple (quartered), emerald green sleeves and cap 9. National Service (USA) (7)ATR Tracker 2/1 Fav 3 8 - 2
(oh1) Andrea Atzeni
S C Williams
71
dwelt and went right start, towards rear, headway on outer entering final 2f, effort inside final furlong, not quicken near finish
5 4½ White, dark blue diamond, dark blue sleeves, white armlets, quartered cap 7. Three D Alexander (IRE) (2)ATR Tracker 16/1 3 8 - 11 J P Spencer
P D Evans
80
led, ridden and headed over 1f out, no extra inside final furlong
6 4 Royal blue, yellow cross belts, royal blue sleeves, yellow stars 2. Scruffy Tramp (IRE) (5)ATR Tracker 9/2 J2Fav 3 9 - 6v1 R Winston
A Bailey
89
close up, ridden over 2f out, weakened over 1f out
7 3¼ Red, yellow sash, striped sleeves and star on cap 1. Lone Warrior (IRE) (3)ATR Tracker 10/1 3 9 - 7 M Harley
P D Evans
90
mid-division, ridden when weakened over 2f out
8 nk Red, Yellow Sash, Striped Sleeves, white cap 5. Intermath (IRE) (8)ATR Tracker 33/1 3 8 - 13 T P Queally
P D Evans
82
hampered start, mid-division, ridden 4f out, weakened over 2f out
9 nk Pink, black chevron, pink sleeves, black spots, pink cap, black diamond 6. Vodka Time (IRE) (6)ATR Tracker 25/1 3 8 - 6 E J Walsh (5)
P D Evans
80
dwelt, pushed along in rear, outpaced over 3f out

Off Time:14:51:04
Winning Time:1m 10.03s

National service
Drive on
Golden amber

The fastest 3yr old race this season run at lingfield although,looking at the class 2 later on the card and the pace of that race the track was quick as it's ever been.The winner harwoods volante off my to follows and runner up had been 2nd and third to another of my to follows the progressive oriental relation also runner up to alutiq previously so the form looked rock solid.
The first 4 in this race are still progressive although another penalty for winner,but showed great attitude to battle back and looking at times run at wolves,lingfield and Kempton although they are high in weights looks as though there are still wins in them.There may have been a slight advantage to be infront or near the pace at lingfield today,looking at some of todays races as the other meetings there this week suggested the opposite.Drive on and national service gave the winner and third 4-5l start from the break and although came to win the race just got oubattled.The fourth national service was out of the handicap is still only off 71 and 3 lifetime runs,there must be a chance that at least one of these could progress into top class sprinter on the aw and the most likely the lightly raced national service!!

Brethertons a fibresand horse totally unrelated to any other track,as dozens of other horses that don't go on turf or poly or any other surface,basic stuff for any beginner...