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The Trainer Myth?
The Trainer Myth?
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The only way it helps horses breathing is by preventing their lungs filling with blood!.....it's dietetic properties are more of a hindrance to performance than anything as it draws water
from a horses body and has to be counter acted by administering electrolytes to replace the lost fluids.........Dehydrated horses do not run well. |
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So 97% of horses running in the U.S.A. are DEHYDRATED according to you....
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The Electrolytes produced in the US are very strong to go hand in hand with Lasix use...........very few get dehydrated.
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You really should read posts properly before commenting Work rider.........Exactly right btw Gant.
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Sorry j.r....i was popping in and out of threads while watching racing ..apologies...
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Not a problem Workrider.....
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no wonder every horse in the USA bleeds, almost incredible statistic, suits them as a masking agent
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The second coming of Jesus Christ sent out 4 horses this week to contest 2 group 2's and 2 group ones, 3 at Newmarket and 1 at Longchamp and somehow this so called messiah managed to get everyone of them unplaced, I wonder why?
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Simple solution dare I say it horses win horse races not trainers?
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Form is temporary but class is permanent......APOB will stride on.
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of course he will gant why wouldnt he when he's training the best bred horses in the world, but everybody remembers the winners?
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You are only as good as your last winner.......The good ones dust themselves down and learn from mistakes, not spend half the week in the pub.
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Greaser, you are the most infuriating of men.
I am not prone to violence, but if this discussion were to take place in public, I would be tempted to box your ears, Sir. |
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fair enough gant, but is training horses some sort of incredible art form when its the horse that usually decides your faith?.
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why ozy because pragmatic might actually be the truth?
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Yes Silvergeaser in my opinion training racehorses is an art form......some are good at it and others not so good it.
The same names are always at the top and when the prizes are given out they are usually there. Hard work, dedication and the owners will notice. It's not all about throwing money at it as you believe. The best horse to come out of last years Derby NH sale cost €14k. |
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the bottom line is gant they've got hero status that they don't really deserve not one of them done a human fete to make them stand out from the masses, apart from a fast horse?
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If the media or wannabees build them up so what........most of them are just earning a crust and supporting their family.
Silvergreaser, take a trip to yard or 2 and you will change your mind. The begrudgers and hurlers on the ditch are not credible people in my opinion. |
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but your worse for believing in the hype gant,
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I don't believe in the hype.......results count with me. If not agreeing with you is believing hype so be it.
You are like the auld like in our local who claimed to be a great jockey in his day but didn't get the breaks......truth was the chap was work shy and too fond of the juice. His party line is a bit like yours, his word are......"you are entitled to your opinion but I'm afraid it's wrong". He also hates Ballydoyle, WPM and Ruby Walsh........he is also starting to turn on Gordon Elliott the more winners he trains. |
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I'm still waiting for anyone to tell me what Willie and Aidan does that other less succcssful trainers do'nt do?
Nobody can answer yeah? |
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Yeah.
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Cuckoo
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well answer a simple question because thats all it is is a simple question, struggling?
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yeah
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Read my posts.......I tried to help.....Hard graft, dedication, attention to detail, good facilities and trustworthy staff. Another one is attending work mornings and not spinning crap to owners (these lads get found out).
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Silvergreaser can i asked you to name your fav sports people , it doesn't matter what sport , there is a point to this question , so please bear with me....
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but the best horse usually wins yeah? try disprove that ozy as you genuflect
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The best trained horse usually wins and continues to improve.
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workrider I use to have my heroes in horse racing Pat and Vincent could do no wrong when I was growing up, but after years of trial and error I suddenly realised its the horse that actually wins a horse race, not ruby or willie if the horse is good enough it usually wins a simple thing to get your head around
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I don't think anyone doubts that the horse wins the race , but i fear you're cutting yourself off from the reality that to get into that position , certain mechanisms are set in motion , from the feeder , to the farrier , to the horsebox driver , to the jockey , and finally to the man who instigates it all , the trainer ...Even Ali needed Angelo to get him ready....
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Things have moved on.......the days of chasing them around the field to get them fit and strap any auld codger to it's back are long gone.......one lad down our way did it for a while charging €1200 a month......he couldn't afford to renew his permit (€2500)this season.
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nothing has changed gant right place right time usually determines your faith, but if your Aidan you start to believe in your own myth, what a ****.
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Things have changed Silvergreaser..........racehorses are not trained like that anymore. Take a trip to a yard and stop believing them old wives tales in the bookies.
O'Brien has a great team around him and gets the best out of them, that's all a man can do. If you want to believe the hype the media create about him and feel the need to knock him down a peg or 2.......that's your call. |
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Silvergreaser........Don't believe the hype created by the media about these people.......they are just high achievers......every sport has them.
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High achievers right place right time or maybe Daddy had a lot to with been in the right place?
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It's called talent and lots of dedication......some luck is needed. You wont ride a winner in the pub watching the telly.
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Most fathers will try and give their sons/daughters a hand to further a career......doesn't always work out if they are lazy or have no dedication.
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Gant , i know what you are talking about re lads who never made it , i remember listening to the same old stories over and over from lads who thought they were hard done by , one in particular who had real talent , but day after day he just dropped his standards till finally the trainer had enough , i see him now and again , a sad end to what could and should have been a great career ....Lack of effort and plenty of time on his hands , but it was always someone elses fault....
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Spot on Workrider......I have a fair few of them lads living near me.......Some of them are that bitter they hate seeing others have success. Could have been a great jockey only for the drink is a familiar line.
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