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I don’t see any update on the post with reports of the ground or if they had any rain or how much at Epsom, nothing but multiple people giving their tips.
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loks quite a bit rain forecast tomorrow even up to ko time.
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They only had 4 mm yesterday and the clerk of the course has said that it’s drying.
Do we see Endorsement wining a family race yesterday as form franking? |
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Definitely looks as though the Oaks will be run on softer ground than the Derby unless they get a deluge overnight
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The key to the going is tomorrow. Precipitation is forecast for early next morning.
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looks fairly open but you obviously cant ignore aob and he runs 4 fav got every chance will stay and progressing short enough tho , i like pierre bonnard a big unit by all accounts and said to have needed debut when behind stablemate xmas day ,improved when just nutted on line by jamesj braddock and should be spot on for this and the step up in trip should suit the recent rain should help soumi up ticks a good few boxes imo around 10s ish on here also james j bradd nothing between em on last run improving and trip should be fine .
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I'm coming over To Christmas Day to be at least placed, got a gentle ride in the Dante.
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Deluge arrived alright. Certainly wouldn't be a surprise to see one of the so called pacemakers not coming back to them.
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If Soumi comes over the rail he’ll think that he’s back at Saint - Cloud in the autumn. (So he’s used to judging that sort of ride)
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Yesssss! I hope you had your lot on Brandy
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Winning
(Each Way) Double @ 2 Lines Christmas Day | Bay City Roller |
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Hurry up and settle up!
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Amazing,yet another Aftertime from Delbert
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One of the better standard pacemakers
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well done Del
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Thanks John hope you and some others read and took advantage of it.
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I wonder if Ryan looks even more miffed than usual when he's on the wrong one.
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The Favs nearside hind leg stuck on the Stalls frame at the start
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What was Keane doing with Item at the front with the pacers?
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Bay City Roller
@ 20/1 Coronation Cup Won Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 2 Places EPSOM DOWNS Coronation Cup Today 15:39 Christmas Day @ 20/1 The Derby Won Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places EPSOM DOWNS The Derby Today 16:16 |
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I love a Hubble bubble!
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I doubt Moore wanted to be at the back and was unfortunate what happened. Soumillion on the other hand on a horse that will stay further leaving it so far out of its ground was bizarre.
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With whom?
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Taken a fair bit of stick from time to time and given back, no hard feelings, I’m only here to discuss racing as I’ve always said.
Have a good one all. |
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Ben's been declared a non-runner. How does that affect the betting on The Exchange for layers not on him?
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Outrageous to make the fav a non runner. Another £million for the bookmakers as the first 4 are slashed in price. I am almost glad that I didn't get a penny back from my bets in the race. Why penalise those who backed the first four if a horse decided to put its foot on the side of the stalls?
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Great result Christmas biggest winner antepost only backed the fav today so get they money back as well , happy days
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I lay Pierre (not Ben). Am I affected?
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That overhead shot the centre strip looks the best part of the ground
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Congrats to the connections of Rebel Rocker. By Cityscape out of a mare that won a seller. $50k for finishing sixth might be the best prize of his career although you never know he might improve again for Faye Bramley and the owner/breeder.
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uptheirons • June 6, 2026 4:24 PM BST
With whom? You meant how much!  Enough not to work |
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…”What do you see when you turn out the light?
I can't tell you, but I know it's mine…” I get by. |
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BTW,I do not care what people have on,just that they actually did.
Especially with your "previous",Delbert. |
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Delashay • May 6, 2026 3:32 PM BST
I don’t like this for the Derby was due (if we can believe them) to run in the trial at Epsom, do they have their doubts about acting at the track there? Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s shuffled things to confuse punters who might automatically look to the Chester Vase winner for the Derby winner! He’s priced now @ 2/1 Fav as if to emphasise this. |
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Delashay 04 Jun 26 18:44
Really fancy Item,think will step up for a bit of cut in the ground. |
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Delashay • May 7, 2026 1:21 PM BST
Interesting that you think that he’ll only line up one Impossible. I watched back the Ballysax stakes and suggest people have a listen to the interview at the end. In it he says that the Winner Christmas Day was due to run in the Group 1 in France but got sick. So he sent Bonnard, who was then made fav for the Derby cos of winning that even though he wasn’t the first choice, if we believe what he says. Cellini moved to favouritism because of Bonnard flopping on reappearance. (He also mentioned that he was on the slow ground because Moore went inside with Italy (whose form isn’t looking so bad now.) Chris Hayes who rode him said that he’ll stay 10f no problem so it was surprise to see him entered at Lingfield 1m 3 1/2f now withdrawn. Should either of been favourite or are we having a replay of last year with TLIW and Delacroix? Is there a Lambourn in the ranks still? - - - - - |
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Delashay • June 4, 2026 8:31 AM BST
Christmas Day was meant to run in the Group 1 at Saint Cloud, that says that AOB saw him as being a horse of that calibre as a 2 year Old. He got sick and missed it, maybe he and Pierre were going to run not Endorsement but it shows he was held in high regard as a 2 year old. Fast forward to around 42 and you’ll hear AOB confirm all of the above, “He got his Group race here with Jack then he was going to a Group 1 in France but he git sick….” https://www.facebook.com/racingtv/videos/derby-favourite-pierre-bonnard-was-beaten-in-the-ballysax-stakes-at-leopardstown/1613556136595321/ I’m not bothered by the Jockey booking as Ronan was entrusted with Lambourn first up last year. This lad has two runs in him like Lambourn. Ben unlike the others has only had the one which seems odd, normally only Guineas runners approach the Derby with that build up. James Braddock impressed me with his kick when he got going, fear him. Let’s hope it’s a good race! |
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Delashay • June 2, 2026 7:01 PM BST
Christmas Day looks overpriced to meMoore was criticised for his ride at York in the Dante where he went to the wrong part of the track. I’d read somewhere that someone said that he looks a Leger horse, AOB has used the Dante for these in the past. 6 starts : 3 wins 2 reds unplaced on debut. Won on heavy. OR: 109 TS: 106 RPR: 121 25/1 Now anyone got a score so I can get on?!  |
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Delashay • June 6, 2026 4:22 PM BST
Bay City Roller @ 20/1 Coronation Cup Won Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 2 Places EPSOM DOWNS Coronation Cup Today 15:39 Christmas Day @ 20/1 The Derby Won Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places EPSOM DOWNS The Derby Today 16:16 And that’s what you call a bet. |
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Hardly proof of a bet though
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