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By:
uptheirons
When: 01 May 26 19:23
Come on Delbert.
Just one bet on here will doLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:25
Delashay • April 30, 2026 12:03 PM BST
15 Declared for the 2026 2000 Guineas


As the Draw is , Days since last run, course form


1 - Needle Match Tom Marquand 20/1 , 25/1 (14)

2 - Distant Storm Billy Buick 4/1 (203) (C)

3 - Into The Sky Kieran Shoemark 20/1 , 33/1 (224)

4 - Alparslan Clifford Lee 14/1 , 16/1 , 20/1 (14) (C[

5 - [b]Thesecretadversary Seamie Heffernan 16/1 , 20/1 (20)

6 - Billecart Rowan Scott 100/1 , 150/1 , 200/1 (29) (c) July

7 - Gstaad Ryan Moore 7/2 , 4/1 (182) (C)

8 - Avicenna Ray Dawson 14/1 , 16/1 (16) (C&D)

9 - Power Blue David Egan 50/1 , 66/1 (20)

10 - Oxagon Oisin Murphy 10/1 , 12/1 (16) (C&D)

11 - Venetian Prince PJ McDonald 100/1 (16) (C&D)

12 - Padraig Dawn Eddy Greatrex 40/1 , 66/1 (29)

13 - King's Trail James Doyle 8/1 (35)

14 - Lord Britain Benoit de la Sayette 150/1 , 200/1 (35) (C&D)

15 - Bow Echo Billy Loughnane 5/2 , 9/4 (217) (C&D)


Around 62.5% of the last 16 winners (10 in total) were drawn 6 or lower. Yes, last year's winner Ruling Court came from gate 11, but 4 of the last 5 winners were still housed between 1-6. Then, zoom out slightly and 7 of the last 10 were drawn 9 or lower.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:26
Delashay • April 30, 2026 12:08 PM BST
Trends

Age – Race is for 3yo’s only

Price – 2 of the last 12 winners were favourites, 7/12 winners were in the top 3 in the betting

Last Run – 9 of the last 12 winners won on their last run before the 2000 Guineas, 7/12 winners had their last run over 189 days ago

3/12 winners ran in the Futurity Trophy (Doncaster) on their last run, 3 of the 3 won, 0 placed

2/12 winners ran in the Greenham Stakes (Newbury) on their last run, 0 of the 2 won, 1 placed

2/12 winners ran in the Prix Jean-Luc (Longchamp) on their last run, 1 of the 2 won, 1 placed

Previous Course Form – 6/12 winners had at least 1 previous run at Newmarket, 3/12 winners had at least 1 previous win at Newmarket

Previous Distance Form – 7/12 winners had at least 1 previous run over 8 furlongs, 6/12 winners had at least 1 previous win over 8 furlongs

Previous Flat Form – 12/12 winners had at least 3 previous flat runs, 6/12 winners had at least 4 previous flat runs, 12/12 winners had at least 2 previous flat wins

Rating – 12/12 winners had a rating of 109 or higher

Group Wins – 9/12 winners had at least 1 win in a group 1-3 race, 6/12 winners had at least 1 previous win in a Group 1 race

Season Form – 5/12 winners had at least 1 run that season, 3/12 winners had a previous win that season

“So what you on for the 2000 Guineas Mister?!”
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:27
Delashay • May 1, 2026 7:21 PM BST
JohanntheGoatHurdler • April 30, 2026 6:44 PM BST
Alparslan (trip?)?
Oxagon (good enough plus Jonny G?)?

Views?

Neither trial winner has followed up for years, maybe that will change.
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 May 26 19:28
Endless reams of C&P but cannot post any bet that he has ever had on BFLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:36
I give form, evaluations, stats and options, unlike you
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 May 26 19:39
But,you do not bet,Delbert.
Everybody has an opinion but most,like you,will not back theirsLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:47
[b]Why the forum as a whole isn’t reporting this loser is beyond me!
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 May 26 19:49
Reporting for what,Bullshatter?
GrasserLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 19:49
And if you ever feel ready I’m here, bring your pal too if it makes you feel better, but arrange for alternative transportation back to the ****hole that you come from! Wink
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 May 26 19:51
Grassing and threatening now.
Take your medication,DelbertLaugh
By:
JohanntheGoatHurdler
When: 01 May 26 20:11
Didn't realise the Greenham was such an unreliable trial for the Guineas.
Might have to rethink...
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 21:40
Always go with your gut
By:
penzance
When: 01 May 26 21:53
Since 1976 the Greenham Wnr has doubled up @ Nmkt twice.
Wollow '76
Frankel 2011.
Both trained by Cecil.
By:
Delashay
When: 01 May 26 23:01
Respect
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 12:27
I’d posted the record of the trials earlier on, you must have missed it. It’s a reason why I’m not a fan of the Craven. Though as I’ve shown winners there do place in the big race.
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 12:39
Lake Como beaten 3 1/2 by Kings Trail didn’t do much for the form yesterday but Sunset on Leros also ran in the Italian 2000 yesterday.

He has some what might transpire to be interesting formlines

    Ssi 3yG3 63K    1m    Gd    9-2 b    3/14 btn 6½L Grand Son Of Dark 9-2    11/2    M Ghiani   
28Mar26

Kem C23y 15K    1m    St/Slw    9-2    8/9 btn 11½L King's Trail 9-6    8/1    D Muscutt   
160 days break

19Oct25
Ssi 2yG3 93K    7½f    Gd    8-11    3/8 btn 1½L Gaga Mate 8-11    204/100    B De La Sayette
12Sep25

Don C12yL 37K    7f    Gd    9-2    4/8 btn 1½L Avicenna 9-2    16/1    B De La Sayette
50 days break
24Jul25

Don C22yNv 16K    7f    Gd    9-7    1/11 by 2¾L Allegresse 9-5 - this one ran yesterday too.

By:
Life-Lucky
When: 02 May 26 12:40
Any adult who sees himself and describes himself first and foremost as a football supporter may be safely ignored.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 May 26 12:46
..... In fairness to RACINGSTAR he isnt a Football fan as he supports West Ham.
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 12:47
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?

To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.

There Venetian Prince ran up to form with Hidden Force who he’d met previously, getting closer to him.

VP is over 100/1 and Varian’s colt wasn’t that fr in front of him. Because the form with Hidden Force held up it makes me trust it.
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 12:53
I wrote this a while ago


Delashay • April 17, 2026 9:40 AM BST
I think that Gosden holds the key to the Guineas in terms of form.

I’m waiting to see the field and then I’ll show you a formline that I found that might surpass the Dewhurst.

It’s always risky taking lines on face value but it might point to something special, it certainly looks better than beating Humidity by a 1 L.

Here’s the formline

Archer Royal trained by Gosden

    Kem C23y 15K    1m    St/Slw    9-2    7/9 btn 10L King's Trail 9-6    6/1    T Heard    99    69    75
168 days break

11Oct25
Nmk row C12yG3 37K    1m    GF    9-3    7/7 btn 5¼L Hankelow 9-3    11/2    R Havlin    99    75    89

25Sep25
Nmk row C12yG3 34K    7f    Gd    9-2    3/7 btn 5¼L Distant Storm 9-2    11/2    R Havlin    —    88    93

28Aug25
Cfd C42yNv 5K    7f    St    9-7    1/9 by 1L Sovereign View 9-

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His weakness in the market is a worry, as is Avicenna turning up as I rewatched the Craven yesterday and listened to Varian who was talking about the option of the French Guineas for his colt.
So is Appleby that confident?

When Gosden said after the Craven that Oxagon could place in the Guineas was the run of Archer Royal in the back of his mind thinking of Kings Trail?
By:
uptheirons
When: 02 May 26 12:53
As a Spuds supporter your views are worthless,Life-Lucky.
A bit like your teamLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 13:01
Delashay • April 30, 2026 6:07 PM BST
If we’re dealing with the formbook alone then two are over odds.

I’d written about the Irish horse and here’s the second Billiecart. 150/1 125/1

He ran in the maiden at Newmarket that Distant Storm won, was beaten 3 3/4 L

But finished ahead of Oxagon by 1 3/4

A certain Venetian Prince was a head behind the Craven winner that day.

His last run on the all weather was abysmal but if you scratch that the colt has ability and isn’t the odds that he is on that maiden form. 

At those odds if he’s last it’s not like I’ve stuck my neck out! Grin

But there’s plus and negatives about lots of them and we don’t know how the draw is going to play out, if they’ll split?

But he’s drawn in 6

Around 62.5% of the last 16 winners (10 in total) were drawn 6 or lower. Yes, last year's winner Ruling Court came from gate 11, but 4 of the last 5 winners were still housed between 1-6. Then, zoom out slightly and 7 of the last 10 were drawn 9 or lower.

Good luck all and thanks to those who have contributed.
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 13:03
Was interested to read this last night.

Trainer's view: Karl Burke: "He's a talented horse who ran very well on the grass then bolted up in an egg-and-spoon race on the all-weather. We went back for the Burradon and he wouldn't have won at five, six or seven furlongs. Something was amiss, although we couldn't find anything. I think you'll see a different horse on Saturday. Kia [Joorabchian, owner] is mad keen to have a go at it and the horse worked very well on Tuesday."
By:
kincsem
When: 02 May 26 13:40
Lord Britain at 600s
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 13:46
Fair play Kincsem!
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 May 26 14:00
alparslan out ..........nr
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 15:43
I was against him and wasn’t impressed with him in the paddock, but well done anyone that stuck with him, instant reaction looked like lots of non stayers in there to me.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 02 May 26 15:43
well done winners 1st 3 in the betting first 3 home
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 16:03
Distant Storm never convinced me and duly beaten 10 3/4 L in third

Kings Trail back in 9th beaten 13 1/2

So in 3 lengths back to 9th 7 horses.

Not a lot of quality there.

That they ran the Varian colt was tip that they weren’t confident.

It’s a shame with all the non runners we’ve had as the bunch look much of a muchness and there has to be more quality over the mile than what was on show there.
By:
impossible123
When: 02 May 26 16:08
Not again for Mr Gosden. Will he win one before he saunters off to pasture new with his wife?
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 02 May 26 16:13
God bless bog
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 16:19
His best never turned up today impossible and he never fancied winning with Oxagon.
By:
impossible123
When: 02 May 26 17:20
Neither did Gewan. The best of Mr Gosden had never turned up, period. A curse or karma?
By:
uptheirons
When: 02 May 26 17:48
Delbert now knows what Gosden was thinkingLaugh
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 18:13
After the Craven Gosden said when asked is Oxagon a Guineas contender? His reply was no but he could place.

Delashay • May 2, 2026 12:47 PM BST
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?

To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.

Thanks.
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 18:18
Impossible Publish should have beaten Bow Echo at Haydock, that was the general consensus.

I had my doubts about the Colt at Newmarket.

The horse that Bow Echo beat in the Autumn stakes Humidity beat his other non runner in a maiden by 5L. He came out and reversed that form running by Humidity like he was standing still in a Group 2 beating him 3+ L that’s nearly a 9L turnaround.

I hope all think and bet Bow Echo like he’s unbeatable because when the right one shows I’ll be backing against him.
By:
uptheirons
When: 02 May 26 18:21
You don't bet,DelbertLaugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 02 May 26 18:24
People who post Trainer comments (in enormous amounts)have zero chance Delbert
By:
Delashay
When: 02 May 26 18:29
uptheirons • May 1, 2026 7:11 PM BST
I will put up my opinion now.
I will not be having a bet on equine Bingo at this time of year.
You seem to have anger management issues,DelbertLaugh



Guess what?! THE ante post UNBEATEN FAV WON! Laugh

Some bingo today! Wink
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