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By:
layemall
When: 08 May 25 19:29
Several threads on the same topic here and going round in circles. Shoemark admitted he was too confident and expected him to quicken like he did in the Craven. He started asking the horse for max effort about 10 seconds after Buick had asked his horse and that is clear from the replay...just count. Unfortunately he didn't get the immediate response he expected(but was too late anyway in hindsight), and that alone cost him the race imo. Would the greats that have been mentioned have done the same/similar and waited another 5 seconds at least, having ridden the horse to victory in the Craven and felt that acceleration under them ?....we'll never know.
Shoemark will hopefully take this setback on the chin and continue on an upward curve. Fingers crossed here. Strength and honour Wink
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 19:31
I don't mind anybody saying it was an ill judged ride Aceform but to suggest that it was blocked beggars belief,
Breadnnutter belongs in a Secure Unit
By:
breadnbutter
When: 08 May 25 19:40
Uptheass is a "race reader"....jesus wept
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 19:43
Done your Job Seekers Allowance breadnnutter?
By:
Hayden
When: 08 May 25 19:43
layemall
08 May 25 19:29
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Several threads on the same topic here and going round in circles


Bravo layemail , they've weighed in and everyone has voiced an opinion , so there's only insults and tedium left.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 08 May 25 19:50
Horrible ride only a brain dead cabbage like uptheass could excuse.

lochy lookin 4 a pal Laugh
By:
impossible123
When: 08 May 25 19:52
He can now ride for Charlie Fellowes in the French Guineas this weekend. Hope he wins one or both.
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 08 May 25 19:53
‘More than just being useless’, are you seriously trying to suggest that Shoemark stopped the horse?
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 19:53
Never mind breadnnutter your new Giro will be here soon
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 19:54
That is exactly what the moron suggested Captain
By:
CaptainCristy
When: 08 May 25 19:57
Fair play never thought of that one, choose one of the most high profile races of the year, and where you get a large percentage for winning. Genius.
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 19:58
I am considering proposing breadnnutter for MENSA membership
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 20:02
Unfortunately,12 chimps beat him
By:
layemall
When: 08 May 25 20:10
This chimp would beat all of us.........it's amazing....

https://www.google.com/search?q=chimps+counting+test&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB1140GB1141&oq=chimps+counting&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMg0IBBAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBRAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBhAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBxAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0ICBAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMgcICRAAGO8F0gEJOTc0NmowajE1qAIIsAIB8QVQznllT8VDhfEFUM55ZU_FQ4U&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e0e0de2,vid:PNrWUS13th8,st:0
By:
1st time poster
When: 08 May 25 20:25
race  dreading is in the eye of the beholder ,I don't bet in running
but  itv comms ratty in last 2 days has basically had 4 AOB,s winners 1st in trouble + Owens well backed winner in trouble,in range of bets 1 was on all 5 for little ,money thought 4 of them never looked like getting beat and even kilaman joro once in to straight always looked like getting there, ratty thinks he,s doing comms for the old blower service
By:
breadnbutter
When: 08 May 25 20:28
Will leave you 2025 rejurgitations to sweep the muck under rug kilamanjaro.
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 20:32
What is a "rejugitation" breadnnutter?
By:
layemall
When: 08 May 25 20:35
do you mean regurgitations?.....I don't understand the rest ....just copy and paste the above link and sit back in awe and maybe learn something . Wink
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 20:37
I am well aware of what the cretin meant layemall but I can't resist toying with the prick
By:
layemall
When: 08 May 25 20:40
My comment wasn't addressed to you and I haven't got a huckin clue what he meant. Apologies for any confusion.
By:
uptheirons
When: 08 May 25 20:42
BTW,the monkey was a smart bastard
By:
aberdonia
When: 09 May 25 11:14
The live interview he did with Chapman, where he admitted his error in public, was so stupid....The sacking is the right decision though....Its a multi million pound business...Shoemark has been the weak link in the chain too many times.
By:
11kv
When: 09 May 25 16:04
ExcitedExcitedLaugh
By:
Hayden
When: 09 May 25 16:05
You couldn't make it up    Laugh
By:
Tattcorner
When: 09 May 25 16:09
If only he'd done that Saturday...Cool
By:
basilbrush
When: 09 May 25 17:21
Demotion was inevitable, Gosden gave him chance after chance and he blew it repeatedly over a lengthy period, it was never about one poor ride.
By:
basilbrush
When: 09 May 25 17:28
Racewatchers who couldnt see anything wrong with the ride clearly have little to no chance of making their betting pay. Spotting the poor rides is likely the easiest aspect of watching horse racing.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 25 20:16
"Gosden gave him chance after chance...."

The juveniles of Gosden's were much of a muchness last season. Even the likes of Inspiral, Emily Upjohn, etc, were either quirky, regressing or disinterested with the game. I do not think it's fair to blame Shoemark for this.

Shoemark made a mistake; Field Of Gold did not pick up as he'd expected, and he paid the price. I can understand why he was sacked, just the manner it'd been done.

Gosden put the boot in even though he appointed Shoemark. I wonder how many other jockeys turned Gosden down prior.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 09 May 25 20:17
Correct decision by the Gosden stable.

There is an interim where you give a new jockey time to transition from promise to deliverance. Unfortunately, Kieran Shoemark never leaped that gap.
Which is not to say he is a bad jockey just, he is not a wartime pilot.
By:
acey deucy
When: 09 May 25 22:30
Should never have been given the sack...Absolutely brutal decision by Gosden.
By:
acey deucy
When: 09 May 25 22:33
Massive kick in the teeth for young Shoemark.
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