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Brighterdaysahead decision Monday or Tuesday trainer says
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If you're a tenner punter it's madness to back any fav prior to the day , common sense really.
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Can anyone enlighten me where state Man has shown a rating 5/6lb better than Lossie & Con Hill in last 12 months.
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You could ask that question about his rating through his whole career, if you believe, as I do the rating should reflect what the horse beat in the race and the manner of it rather than applying it to the race title.
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Racing Post trying to take some credit for Brighterdaysahead running. Pitiful stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if most of their writers were on for the Mares' Hurdle. I certainly haven't read many of them talking up the Champion Hurdle chances. As for their ratings I have never felt the urge to use them for any purpose.
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Lossie going to the mares?
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Yes it is laughable different. Im sure Gordon & O Learys didnt think she had a prayer until they saw R.P ratings.
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I dont think she will but a fair bit of the money for her is mine from the BDA. field money to balance the book.
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Betting suggests Lossie going Mares ? Looks like someone knows something.
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Glad BDA is going Champion. We'll get a better price about CH now .
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Lossiemouth was always going Champion Hurdle - or so we were continually told - while the doubt was about Brighterdaysahead. Has this got something to do with Townend insisting on riding State Man? He knows he won't win, but he probably thinks he can pick up a winning ride in the Mares'. It should make no difference to a long-term aim, but you do wonder.
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Fascinating race now particularly with how CH play it, we know that BDA will have to go out with her pacemaker, who isn't really a pacemaker as she will be going right with her, they just don't want her in front the whole way.
But do CH team assume that BDA will be able to keep it up the whole way and go with her "potentially" risking getting bust up or do they gamble that she won't be able to and sit some way off of it and save something thinking that she'll come back, The other thing that is crucial is will on a stiffer track KOK be able to take the mare far enough into the race before she is left to take up the donkey work herself as they have a concern that she doesn't enjoy being out making her own running for any period of time. |
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I don't think Constitution Hill can afford to sit too far off the pace. I wouldn't want an odds on favourite ridden like that. Too negative.
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Neither do I, I think Lossie will though, I think on her as we've had the question raised that she isn't comfortable with a hectic pace through-out I think they will gamble for a pace collapse and those in front folding and her picking up the pieces and although I don't think it will happen it is deffo a scenario that is very much possible IMO, obv the last time fall is a big negative though but goes toward her not being asked to go like that again.
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This is why we are heading for the death of antepost at Cheltenham. One powerful stable who likely want the stable jockey to have the stables best ride in every race rather than doubling up runners in the race if there is any chance the other horse is better and can win.
differentdrum differentdrum 03 Mar 25 17:28 Joined: 05 Oct 11 | Topic/replies: 19,353 | Blogger: differentdrum's blog Lossiemouth was always going Champion Hurdle - or so we were continually told - while the doubt was about Brighterdaysahead. Has this got something to do with Townend insisting on riding State Man? He knows he won't win, but he probably thinks he can pick up a winning ride in the Mares'. It should make no difference to a long-term aim, but you do wonder |
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I wouldn’t like to be an owner thinking my horse was the best stable chance in the race to have to bow to the stable jockey choice affecting whether they get a run and shunted to a less significant prize.
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Same with Energumene who needs soft is 11yo and beaten by the fav last time. Would Townend be on him from the stable if he wasn’t going for a hat trick in the race for the history books? Is another stable horse allowed to challenge him it is looking very like sacrificing other horses chances as they are going for the hat trick. Not saying he wont win but the aforesaid factors arent great.
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the next arkle pipes bumper runner setback and not running
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Joyeuse being supplemented for the Mares puts anotherspanner in the works .
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If Lossiemouth goes Mares it is for the jockey to be able to ride the reigning Champion and have the best ride in both surely? Lossiemouth has a much better chance in the Champion Hurdle on recent form. She was odds on recently to beat State Man before falling also.
Just because the stable jockey wants to remain loyal to connections of last years winner does that mean another stable owner should lose out who may have a better horse for the race? I think both will run but not sure what Townend will do he can’t realistically believe State Man can turn around form with Constitution Hill and Brighterdaysahead. |
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If Lossiemouth goes Mares it is for the jockey to be able to ride the reigning Champion and have the best ride in both surely? Lossiemouth has a much better chance in the Champion Hurdle on recent form. She was odds on recently to beat State Man before falling also.
Just because the stable jockey wants to remain loyal to connections of last years winner does that mean another stable owner should lose out who may have a better horse for the race? I think both will run but not sure what Townend will do he can’t realistically believe State Man can turn around form with Constitution Hill and Brighterdaysahead. |
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Imteresting just watching todays Unibet preview recording with Nicky Henderson and Pricewise Tom Segal on youtube. Segal is saying he doesn’t think BDA likes the track and never acted on it from the start when coming second at last festival. Lossiemouth should be i; the Champion Hurdle she could be the only one putting it up to Constitution Hill up the hill.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE0kAP1qBj4
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Segal says Lossiemouth loves the course and is the danger, they will go fast and be set up for her to come from behind.
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When have we had this scenario before? I can't remember one.
As for following Segal's ideas, bookmakers must love him over these four days. He just isn't very good at all. He and his ilk are always looking to say something different. Whatever happened to Brighterdaysahead last year she is much improved this year, and the race will be run very differently. I would be very surprised if she is beaten by Lossiemouth. |
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I think they will both run and Townend will switch to Lossiemouth but i may be wrong.
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Segal is very clueless and done very well to make a living out of quoting inflated bookie prices. I imagine his PnL from Exchanges SPs is atrocious
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35 mins 50 sec in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE0kAP1qBj4 |
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35 mins 50 sec in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE0kAP1qBj4 |
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Said really good horses do it they dont get beaten by Golden Ace. She was never going to win the race was laboured … interesting.
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Mullins is the master of getting these horses to peak at Cheltenham. Be interesting to hear his true thoughts on Lossiemouth and co.
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Think Segal has been reading my comments from earlier on this thread re Lossiemouth tbh
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Hendo saying he spoke to John Pullen on Thursday and it is ‘proper soft’ at the moment and cross country course still heavy. Hendo doesn’t think it will dry out that much and won’t get to good ground. Doesn’t think the watering cans will be needed and it will take plenty of getting.
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Good work on the Mares geoff m convincing laying of Lossiemouth at short odds while asking for 33/1 Jade De Grugy i guess its you
Meanwhile Lossiemouth is coming back to what he was for the Champion. These double entries are a dream come trie for layers lol. |
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dream come true for layers
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Nothing will get close to Constitution Hill if he stays sound. You are all reading State Man wrong. He will beat the others. Ignore his run at Christmas.That was the only time he's ever had an off day. He has only 3/4 of a length to find with BDA from the Morgiana in November, which was his first run of the season, and he will improve a lot from then.There's nobody like Elliott to peak one for November and December.Lossiemouth will run in the Mares if she gets there at all and after that fall last time I'd expect she will bomb out too.
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firsttimevisor … I can’t quite decide from that post whether you are a half glass full or half glass empty person
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I was just thinking the same, I just hope for the sake of all the posters on here that either BDA or Lossiemouth wins, cant see either myself.
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