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i never watch racing on the telly at all...
but if i did i'd rather they didn't do these pathetic suck up interviews anyway... it's all one-sided 'you're great' utter poppyc0ck... never any criticism... great ride James did he give you a nice feel... all that claptrap... i've said it before and i'll say it again... the sooner racing completely falls apart and the gravy train is derailed for the media the better... i'll have a wee chuckle to myself if i'm still on planet Earth. |
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you are correct hulk...
my view is don't ask for interviews in the first place... why telly channels think we want to listen to what jockeys/trainers say is beyond me coz the vast majority of it is utter claptrap anyway. |
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If i felt as strongly as you Hibby i'd stop the continual moaning , cease feeling bitter and just walk away from the game.
But that's just me mate , thankfully we're all different  |
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half hour between races Hibby.
can only fill so much of that up with some cnt from a random casino guising as a betting company telling you porkies about seeing good money for one in the 340 at Fakenham. |
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someone wanted £10 on at 3/1 , we explained to him that if it won it would eat into our casino profits so offered him 6 pence at SP.
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that's true hulk...
thankfully i came to the conclusion a long time ago that the best thing to do is not watch the channel in the first place... or if you do watch it then have MUTE on at all times... coz listening to their claptrap race after race just sends me bonkers tbh. |
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Chappers actually took one of those "reps" to the cleaners a few years ago, seem to recall it was the OK Corral. That was worth watching. Must've run out of people and sent the cleaner along to talk complete blsht. don't think the OK Corral were too happy about it, not seen Chappers attempt it again anyway.
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Hayden...
i say what i see... if i see dodgy stuff i say so... if i see a jockey easing up and getting away with it i say so... i said exactly the same when Our Darling Rachel got away with it at Kilbeggan over a year ago... if i think the game is utterly rancid from top to bottom i say so... doesn't mean i will stop playing in running whilst i feel it is still worth my while... and i ain't bitter... just can't stand the way presenters/pundits (in all sports) suck up to the celeb superstars that's all. |
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when was the last time ANYONE in the media questioned a ride ?
think it was probably Hislop and Mellish and that JP horse McCoy rode wasn't it ? what year was that ? probably 10 years ago now (or more)... laughable. |
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Rachael and the Kilbeggan Stewards thought that was ok.
every other person on the planet saw what happened. funny ole game .... banned the next day. |
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yes i know the dance hulk and accept that..but
im assuming the Windsor stewards watched the last fur,are they the only ones that failed to notice he started easing down 20-25yds out? |
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at least the Irish Horseracing Board intervened and basically said we saw what happened, and we saw the Stewards did nada. But c'mon Rachael, we didn't all come down with the last shower luv. 5 days and we'll be having a word with whoever was Stewarding to see if they are fit for purpose.
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nothing to stop same thing here, just say look we saw what you did and the Stewards let you off cos they didn't want to upset anyone. but we don't give a fk about what people think so you're banned. shut the door on the way out.
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Horse silk sh 8 (9) No Retreat 39-7 5/6f T: R VarianJ: James Doyle Tracked leaders, 3rd going well over 2f out, went 2nd inside final 2f, ridden to challenge entering final furlong, led towards finish, edged left and eased close home, headed post op 4/5 least the SL gadgy noticed. |
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Prominent, pressed winner over 1f out, soon ridden, ran green but led narrowly inside final furlong, hung right inside final 110yds, eased then edged left and headed final stride (op 4/5)
post gadgy spotted it too. |
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incredible really...2 media race analysts noticed but the Windsor stewards and the ATR gravy slurpers didnt.
pi$$ingmypants. |
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Anyone with any clue knows what’s happened here. That he’s going to win a neck to half a length - and started to ease down - he’s even thinking left hand down for the left turn after the winning post. Hence why the horse cocked its head. Most jockeys would have given up on the 2nd but we are talking about Holly here.
The whole saga makes you realise that the people in charge (ie the stewards) are either incompetent or willing to turn a blind eye. They are the front line face of the jurisdiction of the sport. It’s not a good look. |
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when was the last time ANYONE in the media questioned a ride ?
think it was probably Hislop and Mellish and that JP horse McCoy rode wasn't it ? what year was that ? probably 10 years ago now (or more)... laughable. ------------ I've heard Ruby questioning a few from a poor ride point of view but never from a dark arts angle. I've heard him saying it about Townend and Patrick over the years,I saw him being interviewed a few years back and he was asked was he still friendly with his ex weigh room colleagues who weres still riding at the time,he said "I was until I started doing this job" |
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Could you imagine if it was Kieran Fallon back in the day,would be all over national press
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In my view the media hide behind the idea that nobody would talk to them if they criticised something. I think a lot/most of them are just very happy to go down the continual cheerleading route.
How much would people miss the interviews if there was some ridiculous boycott? Not a lot. Those taking part would just look childish. Plenty in the sport need the extra publicity afforded by interviews. Consequently, it wouldn't happen. The other excuse trotted out is that it might lead to legal action. Done properly it wouldn't/shouldn't happen. There is no excuse for the media, or the Stewards. |
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Seb Sanders would have been very critical…..
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As Rico as posted they have over analysed the last few yards to the line , agreed on what Doyle said but missed the bigger picture as to when he started to ease off.
Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees. A perfect example. |
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How many times will you see it happen again ? A few imv…..and a few more until dooms day….tbf
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Should've got at least what the young lad got the other day
@ Bath. |
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The Horse jinked AFTER being eased. If it was the other way around you'd accept it. Not sure how anyone can defend the ride?
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so when on a racing horse - as a jockey you feel you can fall off anytime ?
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I am so disgusted with horse racing. Why do I bother? Personally I was convinced this horse would win and I placed my maximum bet, only for James Doyle to throw the race and the stewards to do nothing!
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I am so disgusted with horse racing. Why do I bother? Personally I was convinced this horse would win and I placed my maximum bet, only for James Doyle to throw the race and the stewards to do nothing!
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Rico-Dangleflaps Aug 24 21:09
incredible really...2 media race analysts noticed but the Windsor stewards and the ATR gravy slurpers didnt. pi$$ingmypants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- we ALL know they did spot it Mr.Hunt... and we ALL know they bottled it big time... do you think the Newcastle stewards don't notice things during the winter but conveniently ignore it...? as i keep saying the whole game is utterly rancid... that's all anyone needs to know quite frankly... it explains everything imv. |
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The whole saga makes you realise that the people in charge (ie the stewards) are either incompetent or willing to turn a blind eye. They are the front line face of the jurisdiction of the sport. It’s not a good look.
------------------------------------------------------------ BOTH doantwin2easy... a combination of BOTH imv. |
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I've heard Ruby questioning a few from a poor ride point of view but never from a dark arts angle.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- correct punchestwon... not that i listen to these folk anymore (or very rarely at least). |
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differentdrum Aug 24 21:58
In my view the media hide behind the idea that nobody would talk to them if they criticised something. I think a lot/most of them are just very happy to go down the continual cheerleading route. How much would people miss the interviews if there was some ridiculous boycott? Not a lot. Those taking part would just look childish. Plenty in the sport need the extra publicity afforded by interviews. Consequently, it wouldn't happen. The other excuse trotted out is that it might lead to legal action. Done properly it wouldn't/shouldn't happen. There is no excuse for the media, or the Stewards. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- spot on differentdrum... the media bends over backwards to suck up to trainers/jockeys... it's shameful really imv. |
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I do think he was a little bit unfortunate there, the horse was jinking, he should have won but no skullduggery involved.
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Newmarket-spurs Aug 24 04:44
I am so disgusted with horse racing. Why do I bother? Personally I was convinced this horse would win and I placed my maximum bet, only for James Doyle to throw the race and the stewards to do nothing! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and the powers that be wonder why racing is in such a complete mess ? things like this happen and the stewards let him away with it... how on earth is that going to attract folk to the game ffs ? they do all these stupid surveys and initiatives trying to get young folk interested in racing... meanwhile a short priced favourite that should have won doesn't win due to the jockey being a sm@rt @r$e and he doesn't get punished for it... well done BHA... shoot yourselves in the foot yet again... another self-inflicted wound. |
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i didn't say it was dodgy G Hall...
it was jockey error... he thought he was going to win a cosy head/neck and eased off as the bend was coming up... i'm not saying he threw the race... i'm saying he c0cked up and should have been punished for it. |
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Agreed HH, he should have been banned.
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no probs G Hall...
only folk who seem to think he didn't deserve a ban are the stewards at Windsor last night... the BHA Head Honchos should TODAY be asking these folk what the heck they were thinking of last night (but of course they won't). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sophie Candy (Chief Steward), Georgina Cartwright (Stewards’ Panel Chair), Cody Wakins (Steward), Kelly O’Boyle (Assistant Steward), Josie Brown-Smith (Raceday Assistant) |
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James Doyle, the rider of NO RETREAT (IRE), placed second, had appeared to stop riding shortly before the winning post. After being interviewed and shown recordings of the incident, Doyle’s explanation that NO RETREAT (IRE) jinked in the final strides on the run to the line, causing both itself and Doyle to become unbalanced, requiring him to get a hold of the horse’s head, was noted.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the good old 'noted' strikes again... the good old get out clause the BHA stewards use day in day out... what they really mean is 'we ain't got the bottle to do anything about it'... shameful imv. |
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hulk23 Aug 24 20:57
nothing to stop same thing here, just say look we saw what you did and the Stewards let you off cos they didn't want to upset anyone. but we don't give a fk about what people think so you're banned. shut the door on the way out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- totally agree that is what SHOULD happen hulk... it obviously won't tho... BHA is just full of clueless gutless wonders imv. |
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Decided to watch the replay to see for myself, having had no financial interest. James Doyle stopped riding a finish a few strides before the line. The horse had been running around and slightly too the right For the last furlong and he was controlling this with his hands/whip until the last few strides. Definitely jockey error, he obviously thought he had the race won. Unlucky but still poor from him, no surprised backers unimpressed with that. What was a surprise is the stewards letting him off, as did the ATR pundits, shameful. Goes to show how important it is to ride the horse until crossing the line, just as Holly Doyle did.
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