Ffs

I did Quixall and also the likes of Brian Taylor and Stefano Cherchi et al!! HTH

It was worse than I expected. Eased up briefly thinking he'd done enough and the horse went for the bend. Absolutely no doubt it would have won if pushed through the line. It's obviously very common at Windsor to hanger left at the line. Not the most egregious example, he was unlucky (inexperienced horse so not that unlucky) but it deserves a sanction.

Surely we've all seen this at Windsor literally a hundred times - the leader knows he's won so eases off, the horse recognises that, pricks his ears, looks up and sees there's a bend coming up, so starts to veer left.
Unfortunately, Doyle wasn't far enough clear to warrant easing off - and got caught out. A very lucky boy imo.

Indeed fairweather, two things happened. He eased up, and the horse went for the bend. If either of them happened in isolation he still wins, but both happened and he was caught out. Not a hanging offence, but it was complacent and a misjudgement considering he was not sitting on a seasoned handicapper.

In light of this, I believe the way forward is to do away with on course stewards and have a professional bunch of stewards in London who look at whatever incident needs reviewing WITHOUT knowing who is involved.
 
That would mean they could not be swayed by "Oh its So and So and he's champion jockey so lets be lenient on him as he's a nice fellow"...

This would mean a fairer system for all as it would mean consistency from meeting to meeting, rather than on one day places getting reversed for interference and then the following day horses having a barging match up the home straight and a different bunch of stewards deeming no interference to have taken place.

It would certainly level the playing field as they could be properly trained in race reading and seen as a professional authority above reproach.  Rather than the rabble approach that is currently used.

Andrew Gemmell would do a better job than the Windsor stewards last night.

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Indeed fairweather, two things happened. He eased up, and the horse went for the bend. If either of them happened in isolation he still wins, but both happened and he was caught out. Not a hanging offence, but it was complacent and a misjudgement considering he was not sitting on a seasoned handicapper.

Aye summed up to perfection.

Penzance they can review the footage without being told the jockeys.  So they can make up their opinion first without being swayed by a name.   
They have no need to know who is riding in order to review a piece of footage.   
Yesterday is a case in point - clearly jockey error, you don't need to know the offender in order to review it.

They could all make up their minds first. 
Then interview the jock by video link, but having made up their minds collectively having reviewed the footage, they would be unable to change their minds having already agreed the culprit was guilty.

Yes I thought about that , I would have thought with technology they can be blanked out ?  Just a thought... as the current system isnt that good.
Though most keen race followers can recognise the well known jocks from their riding style.

They should look at having a professional group of stewards in an office on a daily basis to deliver consistency. 
Now we have the technology to enable it Zoom / Teams etc there is no reason not implement it.

did he discuss doyle incident as only caught tail end.

lol.........Led, well clear halfway, 10 lengths ahead when eased 1F out, shaken up close home, headed post. 17th Jan 1995.

Well done Seb!!

sh!t happens, see you down the Dog and Duck later for a G&T.

simply pointing out facts Quixall but feel free to refute them, consult with Hibby if you need help?

This is now yesterday's news..Doyle made a mistake and has got away with it..

its happened many, many time before, the mistake that is....Its that he hasnt been
punished for a mistake in the workplace that is the issue.

as an aside, i once had 800 quid on Jazetas, Neville Callaghan, i think, to win a novice hurdle, either at Sandown or Ascot ..Lorcan Wyer mistook the winning post, there were 2...he would have won easily if he had not mistook the winning post.

i got over it quickly as should folk on here.

There is always a next time..Humans make mistakes. Some are corrupt.

james blamed the horse 100%

The owners and trainer have probably reassured the jockey and had a laugh. Their perspective on a tin pot race is quite different to someone at the coalface sweating a few shekels from in running or an arb.

Bottom line is, James Doyle didn't mean it. I credit Hollie for her ride and wish both good fortune at York.

It's just possible that James, having got into a certain race-winning lead, might just have been teasing sister Hollie and it went horribly wrong!

And mother in Father Ted?