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Ive nothing against PW - but its like some of the top players, football coaches or anyone who is powerful or successful in their field. They build up sense of entitlement, and lose touch of reality. Has anyone from RP actually commented on this>? Or are they too scared?
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Patrick not doing himself a lot of favours with parts of that statement.
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patrick seeing what you get when mr and mrs mone offer you the use of their solicitor
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I side with Patrick Mullins here and as he has admitted, he made 2 mistakes which was to vent his feelings after the race, caught on camera, and then to admit discussing tactics with another jockey. They do seem to live in a kind of bubble, as if nobody is watching.
His advice to Danny seemed vindicated to me, Danny's horse made a mistake and got unbalanced because of that run up the inside. Patrick was correct. Are we to believe jockeys never discuss anything? I understand Piggott was known for sometimes bullying other jockeys into revealing tactics. Tom Marquand and Hollie Doyle, both utmost professionals in the way they operate but they turn up all over the world in the same races, do they never discuss anything between them? hard to imagine.. Surely, it goes on all the time.. |
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Surely it does. But as a sport that depends on gambling, racing must be seen to be fair. This incident gives the impression that (some members of) the yard regard Grade 1 races as being like sweeties to be handed out in turn. That day it was Patrick's turn, and don't let anyone dare try to pinch his chocolate. It's not on, as a public spectacle, unless we want racing to be like a less entertaining version of the WWE.
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How about deliberately trying to run another jockey off the track as he didn't do what he was told to do before the race, Smoky? I would count that as another mistake, myself.
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That's the most significant element of this debacle for me, largely overlooked. He didn't give a shyte about who was winning the race at that point, only showing D Mullins who was in charge, even if it ended up with D Mullins and/or the horse ending the race in the back of an ambulance.
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Its bringing the game into disrepute imo. You just cant do and say things like he did in public, even if there are realities that are true. Look what happened to Liz Truss just based on words.... (which lets be honest were probably true too)
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Patrick Mullins should have just said. Beware, my horse jumps slightly to his right, if you're that way inclined.
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my horse not sure to stay so ok if i set a slow gallop today, danny and co
where does it end |
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all though mullins is trying to say the opposite in this statement he really is just a bit thick, is he really suggesting that he,s telling others my horse jumps to the right so you
cant go up my inside cant go outside unless you want pushing further to the right so only route open to you is make sure you stay behind me |
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danny should have known himself warrior jumps occasionally left and shouldnt have been trying to go inside late on..patrick shouldnt have went on like he did in front of everyone watching..wasnt what racing authorities want viewers to see.
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danny should have known himself warrior jumps occasionally right and shouldnt have been trying to go inside late on..patrick shouldnt have went on like he did in front of everyone watching..wasnt what racing authorities want viewers to see.
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I think we ought to kill this thread. Otherwise, Patrick Mullins' head will morph into celeb E status. The man is conceited and lacking wholesome.
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Not against Patrick Mullins at all but he's digging a bigger hole for himself here, He could have just said he over-reacted in the heat of the moment and apologised but instead tries to justify the finger wagging and public rebuke. Lots of horses jump to the left or to the right. Jockeys figure it out quickly enough and take their chances. Thats the nature of the game. Gaelic Warrior is certainly not unique in that regard. Patrick could have moved inside and shut the gap. He can't expect to have it both ways
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So nobody saw Harry and Pauls interview on Sat talking about how they were going to ride Stage, Correct me if I'm wrong , Paul asks Harry how are you going to ride him and Harry says, well I've just spoken to x and he says hes going to do this etc. It seems to me that nobody on this thread have ever lost their temper ,or told anyone what to do in their live's ,all pure as the driven snow it seems . Time to realise that life is for grown ups and can be a very dangerous business for jockeys who put their lives on the line most days..To all you saints on here who have never once lost it ,please please say a prayer for me as I'm sure you have a direct line to God....
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Again you miss the point workrider, the issue is not Patrick losing his temper.
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I'm not missing ANY point hence the reference to Paul and Harry , jockeys telling one another what they are going to do BEFORE the race....
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There's a massive difference between a jockey telling others he's going to make the running compared to a jockey telling another not to do something.
To pretend there isn't is just dumb. |
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And i know your only trying to defend irish racing but condoning and trying to play down the gravity of Patrick's instructions to Danny is not helping it.
It's the total opposite tbh. |
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Workrider I think you are missing the point. Discussing tactics pre-race is not the issue here. Patrick was on the best horse by far and his horse's only flaw is that he jumps to his right. This is something the other riders are well aware of but also something any pro jockey would exploit if given half a chance. It wasn't a safety issue as Patrick seems to imply from his column - if safety was an issue for any jumps jockey they wouldn't consider doing the job in the first place. Patrick needs to wear his big boy pants when riding against the pros in Grade 1s. If he chooses to ride in lane 3 then he cannot expect to own lane 1 and 2 as well.
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Surely if you know a horse jumps to his right the why the hell would you want to come up his inside like Danny did.
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Patrick Mullins has not been punished for his post-race antics in the aftermath of the Faugheen Novice Chase at Limerick over Christmas after senior officials of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board decided he did not bring Irish racing into disrepute.
The record-breaking champion amateur caused a stir after winning the Grade 1 contest on Gaelic Warrior with plenty of finger wagging towards his cousin Danny Mullins, who tried to sneak up his inside before the second-last on the runner-up Il Etait Temps. |
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During the interview with those officials, Patrick Mullins conceded he "hadn't expressed himself appropriately in his comments on Racing TV immediately after the race, which may have incorrectly fuelled some of the subsequent speculation and comment."
He apologised for his conduct on the day, which he accepted was not as it should have been, and gave an undertaking that the conduct in question would not be repeated. The officials accepted his apology and will not be taking any further action. |
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Surprise surprise.
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Big stable - scot-free; small one takes 3 yrs despite no action taken at the end. IHRB is a joke; Geraghty and his pals were done by stewards for 30 days for injudicious riding (they were sleepy on the race), but overturned by IHRB given the jockey had very important rides for his boss JP.
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everyone knows everyone in ireland. probably find someone at the IHRB's wife used to babysit for patricks next door neighbours great aunt, and they're all friends with Diarmuts brother in law who used to run the horse and jockey in Muckanaghederdauhaulia.
so nuffin to see, move on. |