Wow Primos laughed at the 2 bumper horses and the previous winner who finished second. Indeevar Blue was very novicey at the first 2 but no excuse for Florida Dream apart from a mistake at the first hurdle in the straight which comes up very quickly. Hombre de Guerra might go close in the second division.

Let me look again at your post that said Primoz would win....no I don't see it. Oh, I see after the race when its won  the high head carriage isn't a problem.

Fair enough you did give the negs on the 2 shorties but you wasn't keen on Primoz either. I got my fingers burnt on the Richards beast. But good call not to play today although your EW poke ran well.

Two very interesting cards at Warwick and Fairyhouse tomorrow. Despite not running, An Tobar was a big talking horse last season, and he is due to make his rules debut tomorrow. Can he make up for the lost time?

Will have a closer look later.

I think it was an awful race, and his jumping for the first 2/3 was ropey at best. He did eventually improve, but I doubt he will make much more than a decent handicapper.

Over at Plumpton Goodtimecrew looked one to avoid. Awkward in the race she eventually had every chance, but didn't seem too keen on going past the leader.

An Tobar was put in 11/8, but is now odds on. He won his point by 20 lengths, and the eight to finish have all subsequently won points, or under rules. Problem is that was getting on for two years ago which makes this a watch race only. Later on the card there is an interesting match-up between Joyeux Machin and Absolute Notions with neither appearing to want heavy ground.

I have had a couple of small each-way bets in the two novices at Warwick, one with an extra place, the other without. The first division looks much the stronger. Jingko Blue was in training with Henderson last year having won his only point. The second actually sold for considerably more, and is now with Elliott. I have taken a chance with Chatshow TV. He was sold for 150,000 having stayed on nicely behind Brook Bay. Several behind have won since. The market will no doubt tell the tale of what is expected. Not keen on Bowen, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet. Personal Ambition looked like winning his point twice over, but eventually stopped to a virtual walk on the run in. No doubt Woods would like to reverse what happened with De Boinville on Saturday, and this is more his sort of price. No surprise that Kintail is short in the second division, but not sure his form has a great deal of substance to it. I have taken a chance on stable switcher, Mount Ferns, who is actually a half brother to Henderson's City Chief. I was just taking a look at Blagthebookies form. Can the handicapper just refuse to give a handicap mark? Of course this is far from being the only example from this yard. Ballymackie jumped soundly in winning a couple of points, but will he have enough pace to see off a Festival winner in a decent novice chase? He has been nibbled.

An Tobar was all over the shop in the market, but I would have thought that connections would be happy with that performance. He jumped nimbly for a big horse, and never looked like getting beat. The Festival is a long way off, but he looked more like a candidate for a staying option, rather than a Supreme.

Iroko was impressive at Warwick. They seemed to go a fair pace, and he was never in trouble. A strong stayer, I would have thought the Brown Advisory would show him in the best light. Worry is the jock. The outside rides he gets are virtually all for McManus. Much more difficult for him in a bigger field Grade 1. Ballymackie was another one all other the shop in the market - 6/1 last night goes off 28/1. Jumped very well, but presumably, woefully unfit.

Covered the principles in opening novice. Woods does seem to make a habit of beating shorties. Chatshow TV did well to finish third. He was eventually weak in the market, and his track position was considerably worse than all his market rivals. Kintail got home in the second division, but wasn't impressive in doing so. Mount Ferns looks a chaser, but bungled his way around, and stopped to nothing. Either a problem, or seriously unfit.

Interesting DD, your thoughts on Iroko.

Thought the intermediate looked perfect for him.

There will be a few Irish to beat obviously. Gaelic Warrior for one.

Experience shows us it is impossible to guess where a Mullins novice will end up, but I can see him going down the Galopin Des Champs route with Gaelic Warrior.

Time will tell.

Probably a blessing that Ionion Tiogair couldn't make the running this time. She has finished her race off better, and should be up to winning a mare's novice. Party Vibes another solid effort for the Daly yard. Captain Wallace was well backed, but jumped poorly, and ran a shocker. The ground shouldn't really have been that much of an issue. I thought the bumper winner in the last was the better of the two bumper winners on the day. I See The Sea did look very one paced, but I think he is worth another chance in staying novice hurdles. At Warwick I think Helnwein owed his win to the mediocrity of the opposition. He wasn't impressive at all. Skelton bumper winner bolted up, something that happens a few times every season. Happy just to watch. I don't think it was much of a race. That said Baby Shally should be up to winning a race on better ground, and I wouldn't give up on The Dream Goes On. Hard to accuse the jock of getting too busy on this one, and likely she raced on the worst ground. It shouldn't matter, but I am always less confident when a stable has already chalked up a winner. 

More exciting racing tomorrow with several potential stars on view.

You would have thought Henderson would be wanting to make a good start for his new owner. It looks like he has landed Willmount in a pretty ordinary heat, but that said at the moment the horse is very much more hype than substance. I have taken an extra place on Onewayortother in the hope the ground isn't too soft. The novices handicap chase looks an excellent race of its type. Break My Soul looks to have more on her plate than the earlier hotpot, but who knows what version of Seeyouinmydreams will turn up? The initial version will be hard to beat. She was one of the better one's, but not keen on the sire at all. Equinus may be improved for a trip, but he looks very short price for a ropey jumper, upped in class. The first bumper looks the much weaker of the two divisions. Presumably, Derham has at some time talked up Pure Carbon for it to be so short. I am waiting on a drift on an outsider to get involved. The second division is headed up by the big money purchase, Histrionic. The form has yet to be boosted, and at the moment he looks expensive enough. It's a real staying family so you would imagine they will make plenty of use of that stamina. Ryan's Rocket has been off for a year, but the form has received a couple of boosts. Into The Park got a typical O'Connor ride on debut, but would only have been third had he stood up. I have gone with the extra places on Express Surprise. He chased home a subsequent expensive purchase having started a well backed favourite.

Over at Ludlow there is quite a competitive looking mares' race, but I have stuck to today's formula, and taken the extra places on Grace Harris' The Midwife. That's the standout race, the bumper looks a moderate affair.

Yes crazy price

It was 5/2 for a very short time last night, and I thought that was plenty short enough. If the jumping improves it might bolt up, but it can do it at that price. Changed my mind on Tommie Gun, mainly on the basis I would be kicking myself if it did step up. Still continues to be smashed up. Clearly Twister supporters out in force today.

Nice summary, DD.

Allaho had a nice jog round. Did anyone hear comments from Mullins after the race?
Will they be tempted with a trip to Kempton at Christmas?
Or will it be softly, softly till March?

I just got the impression that had there been a horse finishing off today it might have been quite tough for Allaho to respond. As it was the second never really looked like threatening.

As for hitting the crossbar the biggest frustration is that 20/1+ can easily turn into 5/1 or less next time they run. You would almost like them to show a bit less, and maybe get 10/1 next time. When you are picking in races with not a lot to go on you are going to have to accept that some will just bomb. Hopefully, not too many.

A bit like his 2 Ryanair wins then.

Those who tried to chase after him in his two grade one festival wins looked just the same.

surely that is not the point? The other jockeys are supposed to make at least a token effort to chase him.

Fair point jimnast. Good day to you as well and good luck if you play tomorrow. Back to the topic, Insurrection the best novice prospect in GB today.

I  think the 3rd horse in insurrections race is pretty decent yet was well beaten today baring in mind quite a few Nichols horses have disappointed recently he may well be above average.

I was disappointed with colonel mustard in the beginners chase at down royal he had already had experience over fences and as already indicated he would have been beaten even further if all the fences were jumped.

Regarding rb she has consistently had a strike rate in the mid teens the last 5 years this year so far surprisingly she is at 17%.

As he has been found out at Grade 1 level over the minimum I would imagine they will crack on over the intermediate trip and see what happens.

Not too much on the novice/bumper front tomorrow.

I expected Flash In The Park to go off favourite for the opener at Aintree. 365 made a horlicks of the race, but unfortunately, I was too late to take advantage of the 5/1. I would hope he could run this lot into the ground. The worry for me is Woods on a potentially decent horse. Minella Double has looked a slow boat under rules.

The other interesting race is the match up between Ile Atlantique and No Time To Wait at Gowran. I am looking forward to No Time To Wait who takes the eye, but I suspect conditions tomorrow will be all in favour of the favourite.

Elsewhere I have opposed Nicholls in a couple of races which will probably be his cue to start banging in the winners.

Pressure on Mulqueen tomorrow. He wouldn't want to be falling off Giovinco again. Stable also run De Legislator who looked a strong stayer over hurdles. Will he find Kelso as sharp as Corach Rambler?

The opening novice hurdle at aintree tomorrow historically isn’t a good one however this years race looks very strong £350,000 was paid for Ben paulings horse winner last November of an Irish point ,most probably decent but he will need to be as the opposition is good ,for me the most interesting race on the card.

Student day tomorrow so hopefully not to rowdy