Gambling commission closed for staff training, action fraud said there's nothing they can do and to call the financial regulator and IBAS gives a message saying busy and to call back. One feels rather helpless!!

Always amazed that this shower got a bookmakers licence.

If you want some amusing content search for Sean Quinn and "Dublin Jimmy", the latter departed this mortal coil when the UK CID came a knockin'

Owner threatens to quit racing as Ibas suggests dispute with bookmaker might have to go to court
Quinnbet claim that shared accounts were used to circumvent risk management practices
Quinnbet refused to pay Rick Bardsley more than £3,000 in winnings
Credit: Alan Crowhurst (Getty Images)
An owner says he is likely to quit his involvement in racing after bookmaker Quinnbet refused to pay him more than £3,000 in winnings due to claims that shared accounts were used to circumvent risk management practices to place multiple bets over a period of months.

Rick Bardsley, who is a shareholder in four horses, deposited £200 with Quinnbet on October 11, 2022 having signed up to the bookmaker via an affiliate link from a tipping service.

The owner subsequently placed bets of £25 each-way and £16 each-way on his horse, Victory March, prior to his success in a 1m6f handicap at Newcastle on the same day, winning £2,050, as well as securing a further £383.30 from bets on other horses that day.

Having withdrawn £1,300 three days later, Bardsley continued to bet with Quinnbet until January when his request to withdraw the remaining £3,038 from his account was denied. He subsequently received an email from the bookmaker saying that as part of their “ongoing monitoring, your account has been flagged with similar details to another user on Quinnbet”.

After supplying unredacted bank statements for October and November last year, Bardsley’s account was closed by Quinnbet, citing multiple breaches of their terms and conditions. Bardsley went on to raise the matter with the Independent Betting Adjudication Service (Ibas), which informed him Quinnbet noted two payments to an individual who held a stakes-restricted account with the firm.

However, Bardsley explained the payments – totalling £4,200 – to the other person were for shares in a recently purchased horse owned by a syndicate run by the individual, when Bardsley wished to increase his involvement in racing following the successes of Victory March.

Despite providing evidence that the payments were clearly marked for the purchase of shares, that he was listed as an owner by the BHA and contemporaneous WhatsApp messages discussing buying into the horse, the dispute remains unresolved.

Bardsley said: “I think I’m going to sell my shares in the horses I have because I can’t believe this has happened to me. I’ve only ever placed my own bets and if I can’t bet on my own horses then that’s taking the fun out of it all.

“Between this and the affordability checks that bookmakers are carrying out on people at the moment, it’s going to be impossible for me to enjoy doing something I love.”

As part of the ongoing investigation, Quinnbet also allege Bardsley’s account shared an IP address with a dozen others and that bets had been placed at similar times to other accounts, which they deem supports their position that shared accounts were being used to place bets. However, Bardsley said any commonality in bets was likely due to him being part of syndicates of up to 50 people who communicated information via WhatsApp, while he also followed a popular tipster service.

On Wednesday, Bardsley provided Ibas with his home and work IP addresses in an attempt to resolve the concerns raised by Quinnbet about his account usage.

Ibas said the case remained open and was awaiting more information from Bardsley alongside advice from the Gambling Commission relating to linked accounts. According to Ibas managing director Richard Hayler, the Gambling Commission previously “declined to offer a view, explaining that its resources were focused on issues arising out of the gambling review”.

Hayler added: “The case is not straightforward. Mr Bardsley provided what the panel believed may have been a plausible explanation as to why he was linked to another account, but when they took the matter further with Quinnbet, the company provided further information linking him by IP address to several more customers as well as citing further financial transfers involving the parties.

“Mr Bardsley has argued that this is impossible and has reasonably asked to see more information, but data protection constraints prevent us from sharing the names of third parties and the details of their bets/financial transactions. As a result this may be a rare example of a case we have to recommend is pursued through the courts.”

Asked for comment on the case, Quinnbet said: “We do not discuss customers' accounts with third parties.”

Think everyone should be warned away from going near Quinn Bet- sounds like a right corrupt outfit

Agree with sparrow

Look at it this way , if you wanted an ante-post soccer bet than ended next June or sometime and high street offered 200/1 vs Joe Bloggs offered 220/1 you'd go to the high street ( hopefully ) otherwise you'd be checking the company was trading every day for months and even more so if your bet was doing well , your worst nightmare would be cashing in day to find the shop boarded up.

If you wanted a sports bet today and high street were 7/4 and Joe Bloggs was 15/8 you may well visit Joe Bloggs due to the imminent low risk.

The line in the sand for punters is in between those two lines somewhere and up to the individual to decide where , you pay your money and takes your choice i'm afraid and you balance your pay out risk the same as you do with your stake.


Best of luck mate 

One thing that makes me chuckle - how often do you look at the bottom of the page on these gambling 'sites' and see Gibraltar?

I sometimes have a crazy thought that if you went to Gibralter you would be walking around surrounded by scummy little online bookies!

Why on earth were winnings left in account?
Withdraw as soon as result confirmed.

Request withdrawal as soon as result confirmed.

get an email from their compliance department requesting you fly over to dublin to have a chat with Ice Pick Willie and Knuckles McGraw concerning your winnings ...

Other than 'we will get back to you in due course' my efforts to resolve the issue before involving IBAS have gone unanswered.

For those saying i should have made a withdrawal after every win, with the beauty of hindsight i should have, however having had betting accounts since online gambling began i rightly or wrongly believe ones account, maybe not so these days, has more longevity if one doesn't make a withdrawal. For that reason i only make a withdrawal when the account becomes restricted.

Without sounding arrogant 2k makes no difference to my life, if it did i would have not had that much in the account before making a withdrawal, that's not to say i don't think 2k is an insignificant amount, especially to be stolen.

No not tried resolver. The stakes would be from the winnings of void bets so they're not going to return them are they.

If all bets are void they will only return deposits.

So you deposit £100 and put it on a 5/1 shot which wins and you now have £600, You then put £600 on another selection which loses. The book voids both bets. They're not going to give you £700 stakes back as they'll say they voided the first bet so you wouldn't have had £600 to put on the second bet.

any1 m8 your.

No i'm just being realistic.

And those with the wooly faces are now wetting themselves

sent a LBO to ok corral a few years ago saying i'd see them in court.
apologetic phone call 2 days later, money in bank next day.

amazing what threatening with the judiciary can do

already had my say on this lot, quite how he managed to get a licence is bewildering.  got all sorts of stuff going on incl property in russia and the ukraine.  wouldn't get a job at mcdonalds with his background, gets issued a bookies licence and surprise surprise is now welshing on bets.

possibly the last person in the world that should've been granted a bookies licence. 

he brought down a fkng bank !!

do you have links to the Dublin underworld ? 

yes, even better.

Explain Clacton please.