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By:
The Management
When: 20 Oct 23 14:08
Laugh - I'd like nothing better than to see the back of you and your relentless, mindless drivel - but I'm not a grass tvm. Also, no idea which thread you mean - you start so fecking many.
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Oct 23 14:17
Well that would be easy just don’t fekn look ff

The thread was regarding the Coogan letter,the one getting all the bad publicity,the vomit inducing…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Oct 23 14:19
I’ll leave the thread now,sorry for the invasion Andrew…..
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 21 Oct 23 16:32
Well done happysandwich, still waiting for that bread pudding recipe again after i lost the recipe.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 21 Oct 23 21:34
Well done happy, hope you make a few quid.

I tried laying once, made 2k. Lost it all one dark evening at Wolves AW Crazy
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 21 Oct 23 21:37
About 15 years ago that was. I`m sat there feeling pleased with myself with a balance
of around 3k. Bored, so turn attention to a night meeting. Laid a donkey at 250 on here Surprised
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 22 Oct 23 12:43
Good morning Guys,

Many thanks for the posts, much appreciated as always.

My first post since last Saturday (nap selections aside) so to start a short summary of my Newmarket Dewhurst meeting trip that turned out well considering a doom and gloom weather forecast on the previous day. The day started out with a delay at Kings Cross, i guess GNR probably use the same punctuality manual as KLM as my 10.42 train was cancelled so i arrived in Cambridge later than planned and connecting trains to Newmarket are not so frequent. I decided to take a taxi and thankfully a few other passengers in the queue responded when i asked if anyone wanted to share it, we ended up as 4, only costing us a tenner each and arrival before the train would have.

As mentioned in my post, my day was going to evolve around City Of Troy, although it was a decent card. I met up with one of the guys that came to Longchamp 3 weeks ago and i also had a chat with Ed Thompson as i often do when i see him on course, i even bought him a coffee.

I noticed 3 Coolmore 'lads' walking up the stairs from the paddock although none of them acknowledged me after i  wished them luck, but i took the fact they were there as a positive (aren't all gamblers superstitious ?). Charlie Appleby was much more amenable later, just as he was when i spoke to him at the Coroebus Guineas meeting last year. The lovely Adele was there with the ITV team, but not even a glance from her (gutted).

There had been a lot of discussion in the media (and here) about the envisaged going in the previous few days, more so after the downpour on Friday evening although winning times didn't suggest it was hock deep by any means. Newmarket drains well, is exposed to wind and it was a bright sunny day on Saturday so at least moisture could evaporate. I'm certainly not an expert on going conditions, but to my eyes, it was nearer good to soft than soft.

The day started well with a £50 win bet on Ancient Wisdom at 2/1 in the opener; he looks decent and apparently he will be supplemented for the Futurity. The winning time was only 2 seconds outside slow.

Next up was COT, i had already backed him at AP (varying odds 1.6-1.66) and i had a good few quid in a London WH shop (8/13) earlier in the morning. Not my best move as the horse had drifted to over 1.8 on here later that was a surprise to me. On course the odds were generally 4/6, but he was very heavily backed before the race, in fact Sid Hooper was going 2/5 at one stage. I backed him again with Ed (8/15) that was his eventual SP.

I don't need to describe the race per se, everyone has seen it and i've watched the VR a zillion times. Impressive of course, but did he do anything that wasn't really expected ? Pre-race i told my mate i didn't think he had a lot to beat and i certainly wasn't concerned by the 2nd fav Iberian who may have been flattered LTO where Rosallion clearly didn't like the going. It wasn't exactly a Frankel Dewhurst field who was also odds-on and up against the 5lb higher rated Dream Ahead.

He doesn't have an instant acceleration, but some engine and the further he goes, the better he is and as AOB mentioned, he doesn't stop. His sectionals were good, specially the last furlong that was under 12 seconds, much faster than the 2 Godolphin colts on the same card. I can't see anything to beat him in the 2000 guineas, but i wouldn't back him at evens today (i already have 16/1 to £15) and comparisons with Frankel are ridiculous, at least today.

With COT winning it was a very good day, i won a nice few quid overall, certainly covering my weekend trip expenses and same for a couple of recent Longchamp weekends with change. I did have a couple of losers, £10 EW in the Cesarewitch and £142 laying Universal Folly at Hexham, but £50 win on Charlies Arabian Crown and his first winner almost covered it. I didn't have another bet and we left after his 3rd winner of the meeting.

Changing topic, some readers may know the poster Paul (Skinto) i don't, but Ed certainly does as they used to work together and know each other well. He mentioned details of Pauls condition (in private) but out of respect i will not publish them here except to say recovery can take time, so let's wish him well.

On to this afternoon and one i'm backing is the Andre Fabre trained Alcantor in the G1 Criterium International (Saint Cloud 1.33). Winner of 3 from 4, rated 110 (converted) and looked good winning over CD LTO. Has a bit in hand on ratings and i expect him to win, currently 5/4 so expect odds-against on here later when liquidity is better.

As i'm pushed for time, i can respond to posts and a few other snippets later this evening.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.
By:
Hayden
When: 22 Oct 23 12:54
Thanks Andrew , sounds like a great weekend and nice to nick a few quid from Flash Bookie  Grin


Good of you to update on Paul , i know everyone wishes him well with his recovery.



Best of luck today  Happy
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 22 Oct 23 13:59
Thanks for the update re Skinto.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 23 Oct 23 21:21
Good evening Guys,

Only a single selection yesterday (St Cloud) and a heavily backed one at that although the flood of late money didn't make it run any faster. Alcantor (4/5f from 13/8 in the morning) raced from off the pace until the straight where Sunway went to the front on the rail although the favourite was travelling well on the outer. He took it up around the 300 metre mark, went almost a length in front and looked the likely winner with the front 2 pulling clear, but all credit to Sunway as he rallied, stayed on the stronger and won by 0.5L providing David Menuisier with his first G1 win for 3 years.

Sunway was beaten 2L by Iberian in his penultimate race and the latter was trounced by City Of Troy over a week ago, adding more substance as to how decent he could be. A good day for David and jockey Oisin Murphy as they completed a group race double a couple of hours later.

I had planned to go to Ascot last weekend, but i've been travelling a lot in recent weekends, twice to Longchamp, home to Linköping and Newmarket on Dewhurst day, albeit the latter was a short trip with an early Sunday morning flight back to München. It was actually nice to get up in the morning at a sensible hour on Saturday and look forward to a relaxing day watching ITV racing and football in Kennedys Sportsbar. My next trip home to Sweden is November 10th for a 4 days weekend, but from a racing perspective i doubt i will be in GB until the Tingle Creek meeting, one i particularly like and have seen a few.

Changing topic, a few posters will know the Tattersalls HIT sales started today (spread over 4 days) and i mention this for good reason. A few of my WhatsApp group (including a couple of posters) recently joined forces with an existing syndicate and the plan is to purchase a horse this week. We already have a trainer based in the south of England, a budget to work with and a short list of 'interests' including one that was sold today, albeit beyond our range. Of course it may not come to fruition, and it's certainly not an investment by any means, but we all love the game, go racing often enough (the others more than me) and i'm really hoping it works out, but let's see. I'm in email contact with Alan and he has been a source of advice. I will post an update if/when i have anything constructive.

PHS

Being at Newmarket to watch City Of Troy strut his stuff was a day to remember and not only for financial reasons. I mentioned to my mate pre-race that i wanted him to win, but i wanted him to do it impressively so we had something to look forward to in 2024. He didn't disappoint.

Hayden/Feltfair

No worries and i'm sure you understand i didn't want to give details.

As for taking money off Ed, it's nice taking it off any bookmaker Wink but he's one of my lucky ones.

Happysandwich

WD, keep up the Hi-5's, i never thought you would get this far.

Shane

Ouch, those sort of odds take a lot of winning back. Sad
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 23 Oct 23 21:28
For anyone that's interested, a link to the HIT sale over the next 4 days

https://secure.tattersalls.com/4DCGI/Sale/Live?site=NMT
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 28 Oct 23 19:35
Good evening Guys,

A busy week and my first post since Monday, part of which is copied below in italics.

Changing topic, a few posters will know the Tattersalls HIT sales started today (spread over 4 days) and i mention this for good reason. A few of my WhatsApp group (including a couple of posters) recently joined forces with an existing syndicate and the plan is to purchase a horse this week. We already have a trainer based in the south of England, a budget to work with and a short list of 'interests' including one that was sold today, albeit beyond our range. Of course it may not come to fruition, and it's certainly not an investment by any means, but we all love the game, go racing often enough (the others more than me) and i'm really hoping it works out, but let's see. I'm in email contact with Alan and he has been a source of advice. I will post an update if/when i have anything constructive.

The reason for reposting is the plan to purchase a horse at the recent Newmarket HIT sales came to fruition on Thursday.

The idea started several months ago when several of my WhatsApp group (including the BF posters Lucky Luciano and Mr Spreadsheet) and a few members of an existing syndicate, Fellowship Racing, who we know and go racing with, decided it would be good to get together after they sold their winning filly earlier this year. I was fortunate to be invited to see her run at Kempton where i had lunch with a couple of the owners and George Baker the trainer, the only time i have ever been to an AW course in GB. Sods law she was 2nd that afternoon, but won next time out.

We agreed on a sale price budget that suited everyone, the % splits between us and contacted Daniel and Claire Klüber who we wanted to train for us. Once the HIT catalogue was published, a couple of the group made a lot of effort, scrutinising well over 1700 lots, eventually ending up with a short list of 30+ we thought would be within our budget during the 5 days. Daniel and Claire were at the viewing/sales and were extremely helpful with advice that proved to be invaluable. 

We ended up buying (via Kübler Racing) Lot 1219, the ex-Richard Fahey trained, lightly raced (4 runs) 2 year old Salamanca Lad, winner of his penultimate run. Sired by group race sprint winner Profitable, out of an unraced Sea The Stars dam (2nd foal) bred by Michael Buckley, although i can't comment if it's 'the' MB, someone may know.

He was a 75,000 guineas yearling in 2022, but we got him for much less than than this, and well under our budget. We have a new WhatsApp group in his name that already has feedback and photos from Daniel and Claire. The stable had an open day today and there is another next Wednesday; i know at least a couple of our group were there today.

The horse will run in Fellowship Racing silks, under joint ownership of 'Fellowship and Diskovery' (the stable in-house partnership). I have a 10% share. I don't want to publish stable feedback here, but it's certainly positive and if anyone is interested, i think there are a few shares left. I will put several photos in my profile 'Photo Gallery' later.

I doubt he will be running in 2023, but we are really looking forward to next year, although i may not be able to get to see him every time he runs, specially if it's midweek as i will almost certainly still be working in Germany in 2024.

Good luck and have a nice evening all.
By:
PHS
When: 28 Oct 23 20:31
The Kubler's a great choice; obviously very savvy and hi-tech. I wish you all success with SLHappy
By:
mrcombustible
When: 28 Oct 23 20:40
Good luck with that AIS

The sale price is available on the internet
By:
madhatters
When: 28 Oct 23 20:53
GL AIS
Should get a decent bit of fun at that price
By:
Brian
When: 28 Oct 23 20:58
Good luck with Salamanca Lad Andrew. Sure to be plenty of fun.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 28 Oct 23 21:44
Good Luck Andrew, you have come on a fair way from running those " dodgepots" at Slough. WinkGrin
By:
ashleigh
When: 29 Oct 23 10:45
Andrew, good luck with your purchase, hope he is a fraction as good as the best recent purchase from the Horses in Training Sale with Astro King.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 29 Oct 23 13:32
Good afternoon Guys,

Many thanks for the supportive posts, the group are really looking forward to going racing with Salamanca Lad, most of us as first time owners, albeit without any great expectations of course. If we are lucky enough to see him win it will be a bonus, but just the buzz of being on course will be worth it, and who knows, maybe an interview with the lovely Adele. Wink

It's certainly not an investment, but limited financial outlay and further opportunities to meet up on occasion, just as we do several times a year now, in fact most of us that went to Longchamp a few weeks ago have a share. One of the team gave positive feedback from the Kübler stable open day yesterday and the consensus was Daniel and Claire came across as very friendly and approachable.

A relaxing day yesterday with ITV racing (Opening Show was poor) and after watching Ancient Wisdom win the Futurity i'm even more convinced City Of Troy wins at Newmarket next May, in fact i don't think Charlies will run there, going to France for softer going instead.

On to racing this afternoon, a half-decent card at Aintree supported by average Sunday meetings at Wincanton and Galway. There's also the G1 Prix Royal Oak (French St Leger) at Longchamp, but rest of the card consists of 6 handicaps and an ordinary stakes race.

My bets will be few, but one i've already backed is the Dan Skelton trained Pembroke in the novice chase (Aintree 3.45) who doesn't appear to have a lot to beat and will come on for his debut run over fences at Uttoxeter LTO. Conceding 11lb and upwards to the field, but with a clear round i feel he can beat Chapel Green who is 3lb 'wrong'.

A tricky card at Wincanton, but i will be laying Killer Kane (3.29). He usually needs a run after a break and all 4 wins were in February/March with good in the going description, so maybe he's a Spring horse. A trappy handicap and he's high enough in the weights off 132. Currently odds of 3.0.

At Longchamp, i will have a small win/place bet on Double Major in the big race (2.50) currently trading at 8.80. I saw this one at the last meeting when he won the G2 Prix Chaudenay over a similar trip. A very consistent 3 year old, only once out of the placings in 8 runs, winning 3 and receives 8 lbs from the field (bar one). A converted rating of 109 puts him close to the likely favourite Tashkhan (111) who travels over from North Yorkshire, but this one had a hard race off top weight in the Cesarewitch.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.

Mr Combustible/Madhatters/Ashleigh

12K guineas + VAT that could be a bargain, let's see.

I think connections paid 35K for Astro King, improved from 99 to 112 after leaving Stoute and winning almost 200K in the process. The stuff of dreams.

If Salamanca Lad does win a race, i will be much more animated than i was in Paris when the filly Blue Rose Cen won a few times. Wink

Glasgow

Laugh @ dodgepots. There were certainly a few of those at Slough and Reading, but the evening my first dog Claremont Point won a mid-card grade, i was euphoric and felt i had won the Greyhound Derby, i have no doubt all owners feel the same the first time. They were really good years, i was a regular to watch mine run at the 2 tracks, also White City and Wembley, but i lost interest when i left GB. Sadly the game has gone, i wouldn't have a clue these days.
By:
the dealer
When: 29 Oct 23 13:54
I would encourage anyone who can afford it to get involved if they can. It's a completely different experience going racing as an owner, however small your share is.
There are many value for money syndicates out there. Ursa major for example do 2 1/2 % shares.
Slainte Mhath cost me under £400 for my 10% share and I pay £140 a month for training expenses. She has run 24 times, won 5 and been placed 11 times, winning £30k.
I've been on course to see her run 23 times and been to Katie's yard on 6 occasions. Been a bit spoilt but we have had an amazing experience for the money paid.

Best of luck with yours Andrew, life is never dull and it can be a bit ofca roller coaster ride. You kwarn quick the the bad days make the good ones even better.
By:
the dealer
When: 29 Oct 23 13:57
Katie just got one from the Kubler yard, a filly called Moondial
By:
ashleigh
When: 29 Oct 23 16:30
well done Andrew with Double Major, that was some performance on the ground from a 3yr old.
By:
Mr_Spreadsheet
When: 30 Oct 23 09:12
Morning Andrew et al

If Salamanca Lad does win a race, i will be much more animated than i was in Paris when the filly Blue Rose Cen won a few times.

I didn't know this was possible Laugh

Well done yesterday with your selections. Good luck today everyone
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 05 Nov 23 09:56
Good morning Guys,

Many thanks for the posts.

My first post since last Sunday that turned out to be profitable afternoon with the well backed Double Major winning impressively at Longchamp (8.80 on here when i posted) and the lay selection, Killer Kane (5/2f) finishing last of 5 that completed the course. Pembroke was a disappointing favourite (5/4) didn't jump well and looked beaten some way from home behind a very easy winner who could be worth following.

Typical Sunday cards in GB although there is a G3 in Ireland. Charlie Johnston sends a couple of runners across the channel to Deauville for their listed races and i will be going to München (Riem) for the G1 Preis von Bayern (1.15) a race Alpinista won in 2021 before going on to the Arc the following year. I was at both venues, but only backed her in the former.

Charlie Appleby's Rebel's Romance has been withdrawn, possibly due to the going as it's been raining a fair bit in the past week, but even when he was in the field, i fancied the French trained Junko. Relatively lightly raced, winner of 5 from 12 and soft going will certainly not be an issue for this runner. Finished 3rd behind Iresine at Longchamp 3 weeks ago over a furlong shorter, but was staying on well at the finish. Prior to this won a 12.5f G3 at Deauville easily and this form has been franked by the 3rd and 4th both winning group 3's since. Prior to this had been running in top grade against the likes of Westover, Anmaat and Lord North.

A small field of 4, but i feel the race only concerns a couple with the German 5 year old mare India the danger. She won the G1 Preis von Europa at Cologne in September, but this form is probably not good enough to beat Jonko as his best, even with a 3lb sex allowance and a consistent profile. The race could be tactical with no real pace in the field, although i suspect Best Of Lips will probably go off in front. Unfortunately regular jockey Maxime Guyon is not available (riding in Santa Anita yesterday) but the replacement who i'm not even going to try and pronounce is capable enough.

The betting favours Jonko at the moment, 5/4 and 13/8 respectively, but i'm hoping the locals will support their runner just as they did during my previous visit to the course when i went to back Nations Pride.

All i need is for DB Regio to get their act together as i'm taking the S-Bahn to the course (east part of the city) but there are significant issues with maintenance resulting in some lines not running.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.

The Dealer

Thanks and i totally agree. I knew you were involved in Slainte Mhath who must be a lot of fun to be part of. Did i read correctly you have another ?.
We had a message from Daniel yesterday that Salamanca Lad has settled in well and has a nice temperament. Our share allocation is fully taken up at 60% (Fellowship Racing) but there are 2 x 5% shares left with our partner syndicate Diskovery (the Küblers) at least as far as i know.

I'm also involved in another one, an unraced filly, not yet 2 years old; nothing to to do Fellowship Racing though, but more on this when the paperwork is signed.

Ashleigh

An incredible performance, who knows, maybe we will see him in the cup races next season, he doesn't appear to be ground dependant.

Mr Spreadsheet

Laugh Probably correct, but the filly is special to me as you know.
By:
PHS
When: 05 Nov 23 14:20
WD Andrew.

Result not in yet on the RP, so;

Gallopponline.de;

They decided not to start in the Japan Cup in order to look for their second Group I victory with India this Sunday in Munich, after the Adlerflug daughter owned and bred by the Ittlingen Stud had already won the European Prize. The plan: to go into breeding as a two-time Group I winner.

But nothing came of it in the end. Victory in the Grand Allianz Prize of Bavaria (155,000 euros), Europe's last Group I race on the flat in the 2023 calendar year, went to Junko, trained by Andre Fabre in Chantilly for the Wertheimer brothers. Under Bauyrzhan Murzabayev, the four-year-old son of Intello relegated the assistant (Thore Hammer-Hansen), trained by Henk Grewe for Eckhard Sauren and Liberty Racing 2020, to second place. In third place, India passed the goal post under Rene Piechulek. In the final phase, the mare trained by Waldemar Hickst had a brief moment, but then did not make any decisive progress. Stall Lintec's Best of Lips (Andreas Suborics/Andrasch Starke) took fourth and final place.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 05 Nov 23 18:55
Good evening Guys,

PHS, thank you. I think connections of India made the right decision based on her run this afternoon.

Another profitable Sunday afternoon, perhaps i should stick to European mainland courses in future. Wink

I was in two minds whether or not to go to München (Riem) racecourse due to rain and strong wind, probably remnants of the storms experienced in UK during the past few days, but it was actually quite pleasant in the Eastern part of the city, albeit still windy.

I arrived just before 13.30, had a coffee and watched race 5 without a bet. Race 6 was the G1 Preis von Bayern that attracted a small field of 4, 5 before Charlie Appleby withdrew Rebel's Romance. The initial betting was close with the 2 protagonists Junko and India each @ 2.20, but maybe German pride was partly responsible for late backing of the local runner who finished the 2.1 favourite with Junko at 2.30. It was similar when Nations Pride won there in July. I wasn't shocked Junko didn't start favourite, but a little surprised, i thought he had much the better form.

I gave the field a once over in the paddock, Junko looked big, very relaxed and well conditioned, although i admit i'm not a Ken Pitterson type judge by any means.

When the stalls opened the pace was a crawl, farcical, in fact i really thought there had been a false start, but thankfully the jockey made the right decision to go on. The field continued in single file and off the final bend i expected a sprint to the line, but once the jockey asked for an effort in the home straight, it was clear he wasn't going to be caught, being eased close home and winning by 3L.

Although the going was soft, it certainly wasn't heavy and to give you an idea of the initial pace, it was the slowest winning time since 1959.

After watching the prize giving i left, i was only there about 70 minutes, without doubt the shortest time i've spent on a racecourse. I was reasonably confident beforehand (although the pace was a quandary) and i had a nice few bob on, so a rewarding afternoon, even if the S-Bahn train was an issue. I actually took a taxi to the course from Ostbahnhof.

I've seen the jockey Bauyrzhan Murzabayev ride at Longchamp before, but didn't know a lot about him so i did a little research at home. He was born in Kazakhstan (1992) and raised on a farm where he learnt to ride horses from a very early age. Rode his first winner at 7 years old in a 20 km race no less, Asia's answer to Lester. Fast forward to a racing career, he's ridden winners in many countries and was champion jockey several occasions in Czech and Germany, in fact he plans to return here next season to ride for the well known Peter Schiergen stable after a year in France with Andre Fabre. Maybe a jockey to keep an eye on, and his name is hardly one that could get overlooked.

He spoke fluent Deutsch in the post race interview and mentioned Junko would be aimed at the Hong Kong Vase (Happy Valley in December). Of course that race is another level and he will need to improve on todays run (and could of course) but Andre has history in the race, winning it in 2014 with Flintshire, so who knows.

Have a nice Sunday evening all.
By:
PHS
When: 05 Nov 23 20:49
Thanks for the summary Andrew.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 11 Nov 23 10:04
Good morning Guys from an overcast and mild Linköping/Sweden (arrived yesterday morning).

Finale of the turf flat season in GB that normally features the November handicap meeting from Doncaster, but due to flooding in some areas of the track the entire card has been transferred to the AW course at Newcastle, albeit with maximum 14 runner fields.

Not a race meeting i will be overly interested in, but there are decent cards elsewhere including graded races at Wincanton and Down Royal where Gordon Elliot almost went through the card yesterday and will surely win several this afternoon. Auteuil also stages a 2 day weekend meeting featuring the Grade 1 Grand Prix d'Automne and the highest rated French hurdler Theleme by far (equates to 164) who should win, but is priced accordingly. Having said that backers should note he was beaten @ 2/5 three runs ago. I noticed on Oddschecker he's 10/1 for the Cheltenham Stayers race; could he be the next Baracouda that came over to win in 2002 and 2003 ?

The Grand Sefton handicap (2.45) run over the National fences at Aintree is not the race it was in bygone days and looking at the roll call of winners since its revival in 2003 there isn't one that jumps off the page to my eyes. Todays field doesn't inspire much enthusiasm either even with Nassalam a runner, one i've backed often as regular readers know. I've mentioned before he will win a decent race one day, but probably when i've given up no him, so any backers today are in luck, because i won't be. I'm not playing in the race anyway, but but if i was, it would probably be the Laura Morgan trained Percussion EW who was 3rd in this race last year after a break and went on to finish 3rd in the Becher handicap chase so we know he can handle the fences. Has won on heavy so the going will not be an issue. Currently odds of 9.4 and 2.8 for 3/TBP.

Paul Nichols and Harry Cobden look as though they could have a good afternoon at Wincanton and i've already backed Rubaud (3.00) who only has Hansard to beat, but there is a subsequent NR and is a little shorter than i expected last night.

At odds against Bollingerandkrug (Kelso 12.30) has to give weight to his rivals, but certainly loves the course with 11 of his 18 races there (including his previous 8) and all 5 wins. Jumps well and often front runs, ideal for this track. Up 6 lb for his previous win and has gone up 21 lb in the ratings since reverting to fences off a mark of 100 in March, but could still be progressing. Has drifted a little to 3.05, but i think he wins.

At Down Royal i think Foxy Girl is short enough at 15/8 in the listed race (1.45) for what she has actually achieved. Her mares novices hurdle run (8th of 21) wasn't bad, keen, but many of those behind her were average. A mark of 123 may look lenient on handicap debut, but she has hasn't run since Cheltenham and is up against seasoned handicappers. I will be a layer.

Good luck and have a nice Saturday all.

PHS

Thank you.
By:
Lampus
When: 11 Nov 23 10:19
Thank you ANDREW    G/L  Happy
By:
second again
When: 11 Nov 23 12:12
I have never really backed on the AW I find it hard enough to keep up with the turf cards so will give Newcastle a miss. Had a bet earlier on Flagrant Delitiep 1.15 Wincanton but it has been well tipped up. Have a good day Andrew.
By:
PHS
When: 11 Nov 23 16:51
WD Andrew. Looks like a full house of positive results.
By:
second again
When: 12 Nov 23 06:48
Well done yesterday Andrew.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 19 Nov 23 11:39
Good afternoon Guys,

Many thanks for the comments, much appreciated. A profitable post last Saturday with all selections paying out.

A short post as i'm meeting friends for lunch in the city.

A decent card at Cheltenham this afternoon with the Shloer chase and Nube Negra going for a hat-trick of wins, followed  by the Greatwood handicap that has been won by a couple of subsequent champion hurdle winners in bygone years. I doubt there's anything of CH winning class running today, but a decent field nevertheless.

I think Jonbon will win and shorten in the betting even further for the Tingle Creek at Sandown in 3 weeks, but his odds today will reflect this. I will be going over for this meeting.

Another i fancy at much better odds is Sonigino in the Greatwood (3.30). Progressive, and may have been a little unlucky in his penultimate race at Aintree in April, finishing strongly in 3rd, and ran well in a decent handicap at Chepstow LTO. Both races were over further, but he's won over 16f and travels well. Soft will not be an issue. Up 2 lb, but his more than capable claimer takes off 5 lb. A very open race as you would expect, but at odds of 16 for the win and around 3.5 for 4/TBP i think he's a small bet.

My lay selection is Up For Parol (Fontwell 1.33). Hasn't made the progress connections may have expected when he finished 3rd in the Persian War Novices at Chepstow over 2 years ago. Inconsistent, up and down in the ratings within a range of 127-133 and i don't feel the drop in trip is in his favour. Currently odds of 2.78.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.
By:
Lampus
When: 19 Nov 23 12:27
Thank you ANDREW Happy
G/L
By:
PHS
When: 19 Nov 23 14:45
WD with the lay Andrew. Looked dangerous in a 3 horse race but I'm sure you never expected that to happen.
By:
Brian
When: 19 Nov 23 16:22
Well done on Songino too.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 21 Nov 23 10:38
Good morning Guys,

Many thanks for the posts.

PHS, no i didn't expect it. When i looked at the field earlier in the morning, i thought all 3 runners had questions to answer, albeit less so with the eventual winner. I certainly didn't see it as a match and the winner was 7 lb under his previous winning rating. When Yorksea downed tools at the start, it wasn't looking good and Up For Parol immediately went to odds of 1.45. The eventual winner was never far away and i was surprised the leader was matched at 1.11 IR. Found little when challenged and is probably best avoided until he shows better form.

My EW selection, Sonigino ran well to be 4th in the days big handicap (SP 11/1). A good day for me, although a few bob on Jonbon was the main source of profit.

Not much i fancy today, but in the opener at Fakenham, i've already layed the likely favourite Francina, even though he's the only runner with experience in the small field of 5. Runner-up on his only run, but there were 4 runners and 2 didn't finish the course. Related to several winners and from an in-form stable, probably the reasoning he was favourite that day, but his run was ordinary at best; in receipt of 7 lb, the winner had been beaten 67 L previously and winning time of the race was slow. Different going today and although Hereford is sharpish, it's not the Greyhound circuit that Fakenham is. A risky lay given lack of experience of course, but 7/4 is short enough.

Good luck and have a nice Tuesday all.
By:
Lampus
When: 21 Nov 23 12:02
Thank you ANDREW Happy
By:
Mr_Spreadsheet
When: 22 Nov 23 09:08
well done Andrew
By:
PHS
When: 25 Nov 23 12:43
Morning allWink
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