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By:

Manoleeds When: 06 Oct 23 11:33

Great post as usual . Out of academic interest, have you got the running "official lays" P&L from 1 Jan this year please?

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 06 Oct 23 12:21

Manoleeds

Thank you.

Funny you should mention this, a few days ago i was wondering if i should get back to posting them again, it was the original intent of the thread since April 2018 after all.

I hit a slump earlier in the Spring (hence a loss to date this year) but i can scroll back and post the PL; give me a couple of days as i'm back in Sweden this weekend. Maybe your post is the spur i need to get posting the lays again.

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PHS When: 06 Oct 23 12:51

Andrew,

You said;
I will not be backing him again, or anything else in the race, but i am a 2 and 3/TBP player of the AOB trained St Leger winner Continuous.

I read this quickly (scanning) and only saw i am a 2 and 3/TBP player of the AOB trained St Leger winner Continuous and thought it was a back (didn't notice or anything else in the race). Just something to be wary of (I didn't back it).

Your description of the Longchamp meeting (and social meet-up) sounds so good, I might just try and join you guys next year (bit of a trek from the north of England (or fly) though). Will see what my partner says; maybe a whole week in France depending on when half-term is (she speaks French).

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 06 Oct 23 13:38

PHS

I totally understand why you would think Continuous was a back (i wasn't aware of the player instead of layer until you mentioned it) but in mitigation I will not be backing him again, or anything else in the race, but i am a 2 and 3/TBP player of the AOB trained St Leger winner Continuous. and a couple of posters were with me. Mind you, it doesn't look good.

Changing topic, as mentioned in my earlier post, i can really recommend the Longchamp Arc weekend, or any meeting there come to that. I go to the trials meeting, 20 euros, sit where you want, salons are never crowded and same for the stand.

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Hayden When: 06 Oct 23 14:21

I will not be backing him again, or anything else in the race, but i am a 2 and 3/TBP player of the AOB trained St Leger winner Continuous.

Have to admit not seeing the letter p either and took it as an obvious lay until reading the P.H.S response , i think looking back and taking the sentence in context it really does seem a lay anyway , due to the 2 pl mentioned which i couldn't see being a play and also would have been contradictory after the earlier part of the sentence stating " backing him again or anything else in the race "

Anyway , glad the weekend went well and enjoyed by all.

Good luck today everyone

By:

The Management When: 07 Oct 23 11:12

Andrew.in.Sweden06 Oct 23 12:21Joined: 22 Apr 19 | Topic/replies: 6,691 | Blogger: Andrew.in.Sweden's blog
Maybe your post is the spur i need to get posting the lays again.

Stick to backing imo. People say laying and backing are 2 sides of the same coin, which purely from a mathematical point of view is true. i.e. laying at 5/2 is the same as backing at 2/5 etc. However, they are two completely different mind-sets and skills imo. Always backing at odds-on pre-race (laying at about 5/2 or shorter) is a tricky old game in many ways and also a tough one to stake correctly imo.

Always enjoy reading your thoughts but from a laying perspective, you rarely make a compelling case (or one compelling enough that it would convince me anyway). Some people are good at spotting strengths, others are good at spotting weakness - there is a relationship between those two skills for sure - but they are still 2 very different skills imo. Most bookmakers are hopeless tipsters.

I can't be 4rsed to work back through the thread - but I'd guess your backing results outperform your laying. GL.

By:

PHS When: 07 Oct 23 11:41

Oct 7, 2023 -- 11:12AM, The Management wrote:

Andrew.in.Sweden06 Oct 23 12:21Joined: 22 Apr 19 | Topic/replies: 6,691 | Blogger: Andrew.in.Sweden's blogMaybe your post is the spur i need to get posting the lays again.Stick to backing imo. People say laying and backing are 2 sides of the same coin, which purely from a mathematical point of view is true. i.e. laying at 5/2 is the same as backing at 2/5 etc. However, they are two completely different mind-sets and skills imo. Always backing at odds-on pre-race (laying at about 5/2 or shorter) is a tricky old game in many ways and also a tough one to stake correctly imo. Always enjoy reading your thoughts but from a laying perspective, you rarely make a compelling case (or one compelling enough that it would convince me anyway). Some people are good at spotting strengths, others are good at spotting weakness - there is a relationship between those two skills for sure - but they are still 2 very different skills imo. Most bookmakers are hopeless tipsters.I can't be 4rsed to work back through the thread - but I'd guess your backing results outperform your laying. GL.

Good post this but fails to take into account that when Andrew first started the threads after recuperating he did well when able to dedicate more time to picking the lays.

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The Management When: 07 Oct 23 12:25

Maybe so PHS - but I think you have to go back to 2018 for a decent laying profit (after commission). As per Andrew's own opening post on this thread: "Looking at my profit levels, if i was a racehorse, i would be labelled 'regressing'"

I can't reiterate enough, that his threads are a refreshing tonic in what is sadly these days a sea of detritus - but he is "a backer" (imo). Getting behind and/or recovering from odds-on bets (i.e. 5/2 or 2/1 lays) is tough at best, at worst it's a minefield of mental torture (imo).

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 07 Oct 23 12:42

Good afternoon Guys and greetings from a bright and sunny Stockholm, albeit cool enough at only 7c.

Stayed in Arlanda overnight as planned, but a nice stroll in the city and now a coffee before taking the express train to Linköping soon.

I haven't looked at the RP in detail, but what i have seen appears to be decent cards, although there wasn't anything that jumped off the page. A short post for now, but maybe more later.

One i will be backing when the liquidity improves is Seven Sisters in the G2 Criterium de Maisons-Laffitte at Chantilly (1.50) with several GB based entries in opposition. Finished 3rd in the Mill Reef at Newbury, but may have been a little unlucky after having to be switched twice and was only beaten 0.5L. I didn't back him in the race, i actually put up Mister Sketch as a lay (2nd) but i made a mental note that he may be worth a bet next time out. After winning a trio of 'ordinary' races, he finished 3d in the Listed Champion 2 year old stakes at Ripon and the winner went on to be runner-up behind Vandeek in the Middle Park. In his penultimate run, again he may have been a little unlucky to be beaten a head in the G3 Sirenia stakes. I think he has the Karl Burke runner to beat, but at 7/2 with the books i think he could be a bet.

Thanks for the posts Hayden, PHS and TM.

Valid points made by PHS/TM and i also have no idea what the PL would be if included backs, but i'm honest enough to say a loss considering all the handicap outsiders i often put up at weekends. Given the choice, i prefer laying and any lump on back bet is always going to be a shortie in a group race anyway.

Since April 2018 when i started these lay threads that have morphed into backs and lays in the previous couple of years or so, my circumstances are completely different today, i was convalescing for 5 weeks (it was during this free time i had the idea) and my workload in the Saab office over the previous zillion years was nowhere near the levels of today, not that i'm complaining, i invoice companies by the hour. Nor do i use this as an excuse, i may love my work, but i also like looking at race-cards.

Good luck and have a nice Saturday all.

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 07 Oct 23 12:58

TM

Correct, it's soul destroying when you get on a run of lays that win and it takes a much longer run to get back into profit of course. I hit one such run earlier in the year (and last year) this is probably why i veered from the original thread format.

By:

The Management When: 07 Oct 23 13:17

Soul destroying, that was the very phrase I was looking for Andrew!

Alan (sadly missed) wrote some great stuff (very sensible) in his books about prices (imo) but the advent of exchanges kind of made those views redundant (purely in a mathematical sense) because backing a 1.01 at 1.03 is some of the best (pre-event) value you will ever get, as is laying a 10,000 poke at 1000. But that's just from the maths perspective.
The reality of old school pre-event backing is that you also have to retain your sanity when things go horribly wrong - and at those extreme prices, that's a tough ask for most. In that respect everything Alan wrote stands the test of time (imo) and even laying at about 5/2 (betting at 2/5) is a tough ask if/when it goes a bit wrong. GL.

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PHS When: 07 Oct 23 15:13

One i will be backing when the liquidity improves is Seven Sisters in the G2 Criterium de Maisons-Laffitte at Chantilly (1.50) with several GB based entries in opposition. Finished 3rd in the Mill Reef at Newbury, but may have been a little unlucky after having to be switched twice and was only beaten 0.5L.

Couldn't find this in the list of runners for the 13:50 Cha, so didn't back it

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 07 Oct 23 18:54

PHS

This is my new system, post a selection that confuses everyone, then claim it as a NR or winner

I must be losing it, it was meant to read Seven Questions (3rd @ 3/1 Chantilly 1.50) who ran OK, had every chance, but was simply not good enough. I had an Aunty that lived in Islington back in time and if i remember correctly, there is a Seven Sisters road there, so maybe i was thinking of her subconsciously.

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 08 Oct 23 10:40

Good morning Guys,

My last day in the aerospace capital of Scandinavia (Linköping) before returning to München tonight, a short trip this month, but simply due to work commitments.

Only a couple of GB meetings with 16 races in total, but quite competitive fields in many, even allowing for a few shorties that may not win anyway. Group class racing in various countries including Germany, Italy, USA and Canada with the latter venue of the G1 International stakes. This race used to attract some decent quality back in time, the roll call of winners includes Secretariat, Dahlia and Youth to name just a few, although it has lost a little of its bygone era lustre this century. For racing trivia enthusiasts and pub quizzers the ex-AOB trained Joshua Tree certainly deserves a mention as he won the race 3 times in 4 years with different owners, trainers and jockeys, some stat for a high profile(ish) race.

Charlie Appleby is represented by the 4 year old Nations Pride in the race tonight (22.39) one i put up on here and went to see/back at München (Riem) in July when he won the G1 Bayerisches Zuchtrennen beating Fantastic Moon (German entry in the Arc). I thought we was impressive, making the running and winning easier than 3L mentioned in the form line, William Buick easing him close home. 10f furlongs is clearly his best trip with a record of 1-1-1-2-1-1 at 5 different tracks on various degrees of going. Of course his odds will reflect this, but 8/11 with Bet365 may be bettered on here later. I think he will win.

Readers know i follow French and German racing, albeit pattern class, i wouldn't be any use in handicaps. Cologne stages a G3 for 2 year olds, but none of them jump off the page; the likely favourite Maigret is ridden by Jack Mitchell, his only mount until next Thursday so he has time to go sightseeing in a beautiful city later. Andrasch Starke rode Maigret when winning, but is stable jockey to Markus Klug and down to ride Borna. I wonder if connections know their horse is named after a disease for animals, including horses.

On to domestic horse racing The Bomber Liston is not high on the list of JPM quality horses and after a few runs chasing with little evidence he could win over fences reverts to hurdles at Uttoxeter (3.45) in the hope of a revival of form. After winning a CD maiden hurdle by 10L a year ago and beaten a nose in a class 3 handicap next time out (albeit receiving 9 lb) connections may have expected he would improve and go on to better class, but this has not been the case to date. Apart from a half-decent run in a class 2 handicap over 21f on soft at Kempton, he hasn't shown much. His ratings over hurdles range between 122-124. Wind surgery for a 2nd time didn't improve him, although to be fair the 3 subsequent runs were over fences. Down to 117 this afternoon, the handicapper gives him a chance, but he's one paced and best runs have been over shorter. Odd breeding, the dams-sire was a sprinter winning a trio of races over 6f, although this is insignificant. The likely favourite and could be well handicapped, but it's an open race where all 4 higher rated rivals can win, but i don't think he will and i am a layer.

Good luck and have a nice Sunday all.

By:

happysandwich When: 08 Oct 23 14:03

Happysandwich, i knew what your selection would be before you posted it, WD

Andrew,

Me, Frankie, and Inspiral have been a little win treble since Newmarket October 8th, 2021.

By:

stewarts rise When: 08 Oct 23 15:43

Good luck laying The Bomber Liston Andrew, i leave JPMs horses well alone myself.

By:

stewarts rise When: 08 Oct 23 15:56

Good call Andrew, one of first beaten.

By:

CagliariG When: 08 Oct 23 18:13

TBF stewarts he was due one, the only thread that makes a profit out of 7 losers and one winner[:cool.

Just an update as ikea did ask, L 5/6, W 4/7, L 5/6, L 5/2, L 5/6, L 8/15, similar here bar 1 4/1 winner tbf though no odds on as always!!

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 13 Oct 23 13:00

Good afternoon Guys from a Grey and dismal looking Heathrow.

My first post since Sunday where i had 2 selections, a back and a lay, both paying out.The Bomber Liston drifted on-course form 9/4f to 11/4f and although never far away in the race, never really looked like winning after being pushed along before the 3rd last. Nations Pride looked good on paper in what was essentially a weak G1 at Woodbine, and 8/11 with B365 was a gift in the morning (assuming you could get on). Heavily backed on course to an SP of 2/5f he won really cosily as he was entitled to.

Arrived in GB this morning, my usual KLM route from München via Schiphol and i'm staying at the T4 Premier Inn, a very convenient short walk from the terminal. Off to Newmarket tomorrow, a decent card, 4 group races including the Dewhurst, a listed and the Cesarewitch handicap. If the going doesn't get too soft permits, i may get to see the best 2 year old in Europe.

When i looked at the days cards last night, i didn't fancy much at all, but the one i did, Mistral Star is now a NR although i doubt it's because of the ground. I do have another one that i will back small, the well bred, Jeff Smith owned 2 year old Sea The Fire who runs in the Fillies mile at Newmarket (4.10). I did some consultancy work for him when i lived in England, but i doubt he remembers me. He looks to have another potential half-decent filly for his breeding operation in years to come, but prior to this i think she will run a good race this afternoon. Won a maiden on debut and the form is working out with the 2nd and 3rd winning since, but she improved significantly next time out in the 8f, G2 May Hill at Doncaster finishing 2nd behind a more experienced rival. Has to improve again, but this is almost a given and soft will not be an issue. Currently trading around 7.4 and 2.3 for 3/TBP to cover the win stake.

Good Boy Bobby has been well backed in the opener at Chepstow (1.35) presumably due to what could be a decent handicap mark and form of the Nigel Twiston-Davies stable. Hasn't won since December 2021, hence the falling mark, but this is a half-decent field for a veterans chase and his best form is on soft/heavy (has won on good to soft). 15/8 is short enough and i'm a layer.

I've posted quite a lot of photos on my gallery recently, some going back to Arc trials day at Longchamp in September, a few at Wiesn (München Oktoberfest) and quite a few at the Arc meeting earlier this month.

Good luck and have a nice Friday.

Stewarts Rise

Thank you. I wish they were all that easy.

By:

ashleigh When: 13 Oct 23 13:17

good afternoon Andrew, surprised you are not keeping the faith with Ylang Ylang, think the run in the Rockfel showed 1 mile on soft would suit her well, i have backed her at 5/1.

hope you enjoy your trip and you get to see City Of Troy running.

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 13 Oct 23 13:49

Afternoon Ashleigh

Thanks. I haven't given up on Ylang Ylang, she's one of my fun 2024 AP Guineas bets (also doubled with COT) as you know and i think she will run well, i just kept going back to Sea The Fire at a slightly better price. My bet today is small anyway, good luck with yours.

As for COT, he was my primary reason for coming over and i've already backed him, but a lot of rain has fallen in the past couple of days that wouldn't be ideal. I still think he runs, Newmarket drains well and is exposed to wind, so fingers crossed. I'm looking forward to the race, but i want to see the horse and ground tomorrow to determine if i have a few bob on.

By:

happysandwich When: 13 Oct 23 13:51

Week 41

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UwpOM0chTzuOlSQ-mY0jLuxfVWUpxQE_9bbFgLu1dfc/edit?pli=1#gid=1383066304

By:

second again When: 13 Oct 23 14:41

Unlucky with GLB,I am sure he touched 999/1 in running. Enjoy your weekend.

By:

Andrew.in.Sweden When: 13 Oct 23 16:23

Ashleigh

VWD on the winner, a good race. I thought Sea The Fire had it at one stage, but i got the place and the winner is good for my AP bets.

Second again

7L down at the last, but fair play to catch the leader who was conceding 18 lb.

Happysandwich

WD looking good.

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Andrew.in.Sweden When: 14 Oct 23 08:00

Good morning Guys,

2 selections yesterday, a lay of Good Boy Bobby (9/4f) in the afternoons opener, 7L down at the last, but came with a strong run to get up and reward IR backers at 999/1. Unfortunately, i wasn't one of them, i didn't even see the race anyway so i'm not aware how much was matched. My EW selection See The Fire was well backed (6/1 > 4/1) and at one stage i thought a win was on the cards, but she was green, edged left and held in a close finish for 3rd, covering the win stake. The winner Ylang Ylang made my AP 2024 Guineas bets with City of Troy (10/1 and 16/1 respectively) look better, but there's a long way to go, and the Sportsbook cash-out is laughable.

My Saturday was going to be all about the Dewhurst (2.00) and a potential star City Of Troy, but rain over the past few days and AOB's headline comment in the RP isn't a positive, in fact there were moments last night when i considered if it was worth travelling up to Newmarket from my hotel at Heathrow. On decent ground i made him almost a good thing and was planning a decent bet apart from those i already have AP, even good to soft would have been OK, but softer after more overnight rain is a concern. I appreciate AOB needs to give him another run for experience and there's only the Futurity left so i doubt he will be a NR. It could be he's got the class to win even on unsuitable ground, just as Frankel had in the champion stakes at Ascot and the dam won the fillies mile on soft, so it's not all bad.

I've decided to go regardless, i already have a ticket and i'm only here until tomorrow morning with no other plans. A little disappointing, but if he wins i will be happy i went. How much i bet on course will probably be decided very close to race time and at least i will be able to chat with Ed (Thompson) and Brian who i haven't seen in a while, in fact i think it was the Coroebus Guineas meeting last year.

In the Cesarewitch (4.10) the likeable and consistent filly Grand Providence will need to be half-decent handicapper to win, but she just might be. Prior to start of this century 3 year olds had a reasonable winning strike rate, but since 2000 only one has, the gelding Darley Sun and i'm not going to go back and check the last filly to do so. Never out of the frame in 8 runs, a CD winner, going may not be an issue, but 4 lb out of the handicapper. Ran well to win the trial, i think she's a small win and 5/TBP bet around odds of 16/3+ on here. Mind you, these typical Heritage handicaps has made Denise Coates incredibly rich, so not my preferred betting medium by a long way.

I will be laying Universal Folly at Hexham (2.45) who has been mopping up small field races recently receiving weight from main rivals, it's a tightly knit handicap with only the outsider who can be ignored. Stepping back in trip to 20f, up 4 lb and although he has won on soft, it will be on the heavy side this afternoon that may not be ideal based on a couple of previous runs on the surface.

Good luck and have a nice Saturday all.

By:

PHS When: 14 Oct 23 14:04

The real deal!

By:

ashleigh When: 14 Oct 23 14:06

Andrew, well worth your trip to see that performance.

By:

PHS When: 14 Oct 23 14:12

I know it's not possible but could you put into words what it was like to see that live please.

By:

happysandwich When: 19 Oct 23 14:01

Week 42

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UwpOM0chTzuOlSQ-mY0jLuxfVWUpxQE_9bbFgLu1dfc/edit?pli=1#gid=157537190

Just waiting for the car crash now.

2023
WEEK 42
	Horse Name	Position	Odds	BFSP	Lost	Won	No Bets
Sunday 15th Oct
Naas 2:15	Megarry	8th	17/2	11.50			No Bet
Naas 2:50	Water Nymph	13th	33/1	46.00			No Bet
Naas 3:25	Astar	13th	28/1	44.90			No Bet
Cork 4:20	Clever Currency	2nd	9/2	6.60			No Bet
Naas 4:35	Alfalfa	3rd	7/4	2.94		£10.00
Cork 4:55	Typical Thomas	1st	13/2	8.40			No Bet

Monday 16th Oct
Gowran Park 1:20	Wrist Art	3rd	2/1	3.29		£10.00
Gowran Park 2:20	Malbay Madness	5th	5/1	8.80			No Bet
Musselburgh 4:10	Mubhijah	4th	13/8	2.94		£10.00
Windsor 4:15	Liseo	4th	14/1	20.00			No Bet
Windsor 4:15	Alpha Female	7th	4/1	5.40			No Bet
Kempton 7:00	Elzaam Blue	4th	7/2	5.25		£10.00

Tuesday 17th Oct
Hereford 1:50	Parade Away	1st	1/16	1.09	(£0.90)
Hereford 4:10	Sinister Minister	6th	11/4	3.62		£10.00
Gowran Park 4:15	Manhattan Dandy	3rd	7/1	8.27			No Bet
Newcastle 5:30	Ciara Pearl	2nd	11/2	7.22			No Bet
Newcastle 7:00	Port Erin	8th	13/8	3.10		£10.00

Wednesday 18th Oct
Nottingham 3:10	Amayretta	3rd	3/1	4.98		£10.00

Thursday 19th Oct
Carlisle 2:25	Cabhfuilfungi
Carlisle 4:45	Massini Man
Chelmsford 7:30	Grand Dutchess Olga

Friday 20th Oct
Redcar 1:35	Sacred Falls
Haydock 1:55	Rogue Enforcer
Haydock 3:00	Dare To Hope
Haydock 3:00	Solray
Haydock 5:20	Billy No Mates

Saturday 21st Oct
Market Rasen 2:10	Saladam
Newton Abbot 2:15	Farnoge
Ascot 2:25	Term Of Endearment
Leopardstown 2:30	Basilah Bay
Newton Abbot 2:55	Back Yourself
Catterick 3:00	Muscika
Limerick 3:15	Iriskana
Market Rasen 3:30	Seefin
Catterick 3:40	Wen Moon
Ascot 3:45	My Prospero
Market Rasen 4:08	Courtland
Stratford 4:35	Jaminska
Stratford 5:10	Justshortofabubble
Catterick 5:30	Ebony Maw

				Weekly Totals	(£0.90)	£70.00
				Weekly P/L		£69.10

				Losing bets	1
				Winning bets	7
				No Bets	10

				Losing	Winning
	Lost	Won	Weekly P/L	Bets	Bets
Week 1	(£59.16)	£120.00	£60.84	5	12	13
Week 2	(£91.20)	£30.00	(£61.20)	6	3	14
Week 3	(£19.10)	£70.00	£50.90	2	7	12
Week 4	(£95.00)	£60.00	(£35.00)	5	6	18
Week 5	(£181.51)	£100.00	(£81.51)	8	10	24
Week 6	(£266.20)	£50.00	(£216.20)	9	5	16
Week 7	(£54.80)	£80.00	£25.20	4	8	20
Week 8	(£147.00)	£150.00	£3.00	4	15	13
Week 9	(£84.80)	£150.00	£65.20	4	15	13
Week 10	(£99.60)	£110.00	£10.40	5	11	10
Week 11	(£233.20)	£180.00	(£53.20)	10	18	43
Week 12	(£88.05)	£90.00	£1.95	4	9	21
Week 13	(£48.90)	£130.00	£81.10	4	13	18
Week 14	(£52.40)	£70.00	£17.60	3	7	29
Week 15	(£106.64)	£190.00	£83.36	6	19	32
Week 16	(£125.30)	£100.00	(£25.30)	6	10	33
Week 17	(£157.39)	£180.00	£22.61	8	18	26
Week 18	(£82.70)	£100.00	£17.30	4	10	38
Week 19	(£124.63)	£130.00	£5.37	6	13	23
Week 20	(£59.70)	£110.00	£50.30	3	11	29
Week 21	(£88.20)	£120.00	£31.80	7	12	24
Week 22	(£226.60)	£190.00	(£36.60)	15	19	31
Week 23	(£150.72)	£120.00	(£30.72)	6	12	12
Week 24	(£88.70)	£150.00	£61.30	7	15	19
Week 25	(£61.60)	£80.00	£18.40	3	8	31
Week 26	(£112.60)	£120.00	£7.40	5	12	28
Week 27	(£132.85)	£220.00	£87.15	6	22	25
Week 28	(£48.20)	£160.00	£111.80	3	16	22
Week 29	(£109.01)	£130.00	£20.99	6	16	40
Week 30	(£191.23)	£140.00	(£51.23)	3	13	18
Week 31	(£194.80)	£160.00	(£34.80)	1	6	32
Week 32	(£38.80)	£130.00	£91.20	6	12	45
Week 33	(£14.90)	£60.00	£45.10	1	6	32
Week 34	(£170.20)	£120.00	(£50.20)	6	12	45
Week 35	(£23.60)	£130.00	£106.40	2	13	16
Week 36	(£122.00)	£140.00	£18.00	5	14	17
Week 37	(£190.80)	£100.00	(£90.80)	6	10	27
Week 38	(£104.80)	£70.00	(£34.80)	4	7	28
Week 39	(£205.90)	£160.00	(£45.90)	5	16	42
Week 40	(£156.62)	£90.00	(£66.62)	6	9	23
Week 41	(£21.00)	£190.00	£169.00	1	19	26
Week 42	(£0.90)	£70.00	£69.10	1	7	10

		Overall P/L	£418.69	211	496	1,038
		Happy's Monkey	£500.00
		Running Total	£918.69

		Total selections	1,745
		Actual bets	707

By:

Hayden When: 19 Oct 23 14:02

Great stuff Happy , impressive

By:

formoftheace When: 19 Oct 23 14:03

All there to see no fudge….

By:

happysandwich When: 19 Oct 23 14:16

Thanks

Hayden & formoftheace

Me and Mrs. H have been ‘high-fiving’ to these for over 2 years.

These are the rules
RULES
1. Lay any horse that’s latest form is 21 at odds no bigger than BFSP 6.00 (5/1)
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10

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madhatters When: 19 Oct 23 21:27

Good to see you happy happy
Still ticking over and a few caviar sarnies for Mrs H

Bit of a rollacoaster at times - start to year esp WK 6
And recently
Have you dug down at the types of races ? Codes- Flat, NH, AW ?

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happysandwich When: 20 Oct 23 12:01

madhatters,

If anyone wants to know what fun betting is about Lay Saturday’s selections, that meet the above criteria, to win just £10.

Don’t have any other bets during the day whatsoever. It’s called controlled gambling.

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happysandwich When: 20 Oct 23 13:52

This is the win bet I had in the division 3 comp today.

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Mereside Diva – 1:35 Redcar

Thanks Reged

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The Management When: 20 Oct 23 13:55

Well done Happy - you are very, very clever.

P.S. Please give my regards to Hans Christian Andersen at the next AGM for fairy tale writers!

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formoftheace When: 20 Oct 23 13:56

The ball sack make an appearance…..ffs

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The Management When: 20 Oct 23 13:58

Happy might be a bit selective with his results f4rty - but there's no need for that kind of name-calling imo ffs

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formoftheace When: 20 Oct 23 13:59

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formoftheace When: 20 Oct 23 14:03

Did you snitch on my thread yesterday TM ?