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10,000 plus people die every week, wtf are you on about?
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We all die
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On about excess deaths and it's right been happening since last summer and not one word, strange world.
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Number of deaths week ending December 23rd well above the five year average
Here's the ONS data https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/ deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending23december2022 |
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This was 20.2% above the five-year average!
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dave - are u missing the point(s). These are deaths away beyond the normal average deaths in previous years. A lot more deaths in the 18 - 55 age bracket than ever before. Something is NOT right.
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A professor of oncology at a London hospital has some concerning words:
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1610199630545039363 |
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Big Wurzel….stack them high !
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The number of deaths was above the five-year average in private homes (37.5% above, 1,120 excess deaths), hospitals (18.8% above, 1,031 excess deaths), care homes (10.5% above; 282 excess deaths) and other settings (7.0% above, 61 excess deaths) in Week 51 in England and Wales. |
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Who knew this was going to happen...
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The Chinese flu has done untold…
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People don't die of flu at home, typically.
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Extraordinary graph, the highest number of non covid related deaths ever recorded.
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All gone quiet again, very strange, this time 2 years ago they were banging the jab right in your face!! I guess Dave has had his 4th/5th jab and wondering whether Boris/Witty and Vallance just had saline. Where are they today? Wherever they are they got big bank accounts!!!!
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all very strange that its been kept very quiet not on any news
It was on Newsnight only last night. |
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I heard a theory that is was because people were previously shielded from illness during covid/lockdown periods, and now of course it's catching up...
A bit like the film Final Desination if you think about it. ![]() |
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Or Destination even!
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Its not the vaxx but its the vaxx
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It's not a theory stu. There is talk about paramedics and nurses strikes now, but the reality most of the NHS went on (paid) strike as soon as it looked like there was a very dangerous virus that could kill. The NHS as an organisation was complicit with this, in fact they convinced the politicians that they needed to clear out the hospitals so they would have far fewer people to look after (obviously sending the virus back to household and care home settings as acceptable collateral risk).
GP surgeries literally shut up shop and practically all started working and guessing diagnoses from home (predominately still are). Since primary care in this country is the gateway to secondary care, that is rather problematic. The only time primary care jumped into action is when they could monetise the situation by collecting £20 per covid jab to all and sundry. There were of course many people within the NHS that did not run away, and still put themselves (and their immediate family) at perceived risk, but pretty much everything outside of emergency care stopped. They are still not keen on returning to normal like the rest of society outside of the state, hence waiting lists (official and real) have remained climbing off the scale, even though vast resources have been allocated. Now we are seeing the possible triple whammy of the NHS going on strike during covid hysteria, not yet returning to normal and mass vaccination using a trial substance/mechanism. |
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In an interview for the Reckitt Global Hygiene Institute published today by the Telegraph, Professor David Halpern says he turned his subliminal powers of persuasion on the Prime Minister himself after it became apparent he was not leading by example.
Prof. Halpern is a member of SAGE and CEO of the controversial ‘nudge unit’, which advised on much of the Government’s messaging during the pandemic, including the “Hands, Face, Space” and “Stay home – Protect the NHS” slogans. In the interview, which considers the politics and culture of mask wearing around the world, Prof Halpern describes how he helped nudge Mr. Johnson to wear a mask himself. “We did share with him a slide pack at one point. It had a series of images of pretty much every single world leader wearing a mask, and then a picture with him not.” This subliminal prod was used to point out that “a normal thing for a world leader to do right now is wear a mask”, Prof. Halpern added. Prof Halpern co-authored the 2010 Mindspace document for the Cabinet Office which listed all the nine subconscious prompts for which there is a solid evidence base. Chief among these nudges is the idea that we conform to ‘social norms’ – that we tend to do what those around us are already doing once it is drawn to our attention. This was the type of sh1tty manipulation they tried on all of us. Props to anybody who did not fall for it. |
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In other words, 'othering'. Rooted in fascism.
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A bunch of unelected shrinks were running the country.
SPI-B minutes dated 22nd March 2020 exposed their early involvement in the strategy to frighten people into compliance: ‘A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened … The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging’. Nor was the group averse to recommending shame and scapegoating, the same minutes detailing how ‘Communication strategies should provide social approval for desired behaviours’ and that ‘members of the community can be encouraged to provide it to each other’. More ominously, the ‘nudgers’ advised ministers to, ‘Consider use of social disapproval for failure to comply’ and then warned that ‘this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scapegoating and misdirected criticism’. |
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'Victimisation, scapegoating and misdirected criticism' was predominately outsourced to mainstream media, social media, participants and online forums. Transparently exaggerated social distancing etc. Even racing had this, with the absurd social distancing of presenters, presenting outside in an otherwise deserted racetrack. Compelling anyone in the paddock and jockeys into wearing the medically useless (but effective for social engineering) face nappies.
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face nappies? Rather childish don't you think Cider.
The best available scientific evidence is that, when used correctly, wearing a face covering may reduce the spread of coronavirus droplets in certain circumstances. |
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Can you link me to the randomized controlled trial data that claim is evidenced by, JML ?
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What data did you use to claim they were medically useless?
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I didn't state that I was backed up by scientific evidence. You're stating that your claim is (or whatever propaganda outlet that was copied from is).
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Anyway, it's worded sneakily enough.
may reduce the spread of coronavirus therefore it also, equally, may not. |
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Not backed up by scientific evide
Did you make the claim with nothing to back it up? |
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That's not how science works, not actual science. Someone makes a hypothesis like people wearing a 'face covering' in the real world may may reduce the spread of coronavirus. They have to prove their hypothesis. Positives get proved (or disproved), not negatives.
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You seem to have failed to answer the question.
Did you make the claim with nothing to back it up? |
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You can see in the article I quoted that Johnson had to be manipulated into thinking they were needed. If there was scientific evidence that they were materially effective, no such manipulation would be required.
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It should be obvious to the thickest of thickos that an effective mask worn correctly will reduce the spread of virus infected droplets. Anyone disputing that is either stupid or like Cider has an agenda, the use of the phrase "face nappie" being an indicator.
You can have a debate about whether the majority wearing poor quality masks or scarfs etc or not bothering to cover the nose makes the exercise futile. Also worthy of debate is where the majority of transmission takes place. Is it in settings where masks aren't worn e.g. homes. |
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If they are effective, there must be demonstrable evidence after three years of a global pandemic and off/on mask mandates, that even the 'thickest of thickos' can see. Fortunately, I'm rather comfortable with interpreting data, so that will do for me. Quoting that 'scientists' say they may work, just doesn't do it for me, alas.
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I'm rather comfortable with interpreting data,
What data did you interpret before making the claim that they were useless? |
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I didn't make a scientific claim, you did. So, put up, or...
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A lot more young people and "fit" athletes. Seems like something made their hearts less able to take the strain
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Ah so your "the medically useless (but effective for social engineering) face nappies" statement was as suspected simply a symptom of some other agenda.
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wearing the medically useless
Not a scientific claim? What type of claim would you say it was? |