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By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 08 Jan 23 16:40
*ago
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 08 Jan 23 17:22
Spittle masks is the correct term. Hospital staff wear them to stop them spitting on their patients.

That's all they're good for.
By:
BennyBinion1
When: 08 Jan 23 17:31
Let the loonies keep wearing the face nappies, so we can see who the covid cult weirdos are and keep away from them.

Carriages on trains for muzzle wearers only.

Keep them all together.

They don't want to ever leave the covid cult.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 08 Jan 23 17:43
The year is 2030 and the face nappy brigade have just received the latest missive from their masters (the devolved local government).

It reads:

Your latest universal basic income pittance will be paid into your digital currency account upon compliance with the following:

1. Receipt of your 45th "booster".

2. You have travelled no further than a radius of 5 kilometers from your registered abode within the last 28 days.

3. You have completed all your your critical race theory and gender ideology modules online.

4. You have attended at least 2 drag queen classes within the last 28 days.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Jan 23 18:06
George triggered again. Sad to see.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 08 Jan 23 18:24
All those folks who have their cardiac events at football matches have got the right idea. Nowhere better to be to have that sort of thing happen and they even stop the game for you so you don't miss anything
By:
howard
When: 08 Jan 23 19:59
JML , news comes through nearly every day about sports people. Didn't seem to happen anything like as much a few years ago.( today ) https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20975549/modeste-mbami-dead-psg-cameroon-heart-attack-infantino/oday:
By:
JML
When: 08 Jan 23 20:58
Nearly every day? Slight exaggeration maybe.

Of course it's only natural that you're going to take more notice of something that happens to help your agenda.

And when someone like him dies why do you assume he's been vaccinated?

You haven't even begin to prove that it happens more frequently

Without that knowledge you don't have a case no matter how much you try to exaggerate the occurance of such events.

Reminds me of when Matt Le Tissier suggested that Eriksen's collapse was due to being vaccinated.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Jan 23 21:01
covid ffs?  blame 5g for that.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 08 Jan 23 21:15
JML- You do the maths, one in 800 adverse effects from covid vaccine and still jabbing. One in 100,000 adverse effects from swince flu vaccine in 1976 which got recalled after 10 weeks.


The $137-million program began in early October 1976, but within days reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to increase the risk for Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes temporary paralysis but can be fatal.

Waiting in long lines at schools and clinics, more than 40 million Americans -- almost 25% of the population -- received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks.

More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine; 25 died. No one completely understands the causes of Guillain-Barre, but the condition can develop after a bout with infection or following surgery or vaccination. The federal government paid millions in damages to people or their families.

However, the pandemic, which some experts estimated at the time could infect 50 million to 60 million Americans, never unfolded. Only about 200 cases of swine flu and one death were ultimately reported in the U.S., the CDC said.

The public viewed the entire episode as political farce, Sencer said. But at the time, he said, the government erred on the side of caution.

“If we had that knowledge then, we might have done things differently,” Sencer said. “We did not know what sort of virus we were dealing with in those days. No one knew we would have Guillain-Barre syndrome. The flu vaccine had been used for many years without that happening.”

Wenzel also recommended vaccination in 1976. “It was a great effort,” he said. “It just had unexpected, unfortunate side effects.”
By:
JML
When: 08 Jan 23 21:39
What maths is that?

Do you want to assume that all adverse effects are exactly the same/similar
and that science hasn't advanced at all since 1976?
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 08 Jan 23 21:42
Science has improved but not as fast as cover ups, at least they had the balls to own up back then, shame they can't take a leaf from their books.
By:
JML
When: 08 Jan 23 21:43
The old cover up line--pathetic
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 08 Jan 23 21:46
keep burying your head, maybe when your family has been affected you might take note till then keep believing.
By:
JML
When: 08 Jan 23 21:49
Keep believing in what?

FFS A child could explain himself better.

And what is being covered up?

If their covering up the fact that more people are dying their not doing a goog job of it.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 08 Jan 23 21:53
D and D
By:
leif
When: 08 Jan 23 21:59
3 way split

ppl like davenumbers will be fully boosted up with sleeve rolled up ready for next tranche

some will be saying 'fook it, had 3 or four and maxed up.

remainder, around 10% [me in included] will be like, shove the rona jab up ya rec4tum Plain

it's how it should be innit
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Jan 23 23:09
mccanns arrested yet?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 10 Jan 23 10:33
More than 650,000 deaths were registered in the UK in 2022 - 9% more than 2019.  This represents one of the largest excess death levels outside the pandemic in 50 years.
Though far below peak pandemic levels, it has prompted questions about why more people are still dying than normal.  Data indicates pandemic effects on health and NHS pressures are among the leading explanations.

Covid is still killing people, but is involved in fewer deaths now than at the start of the pandemic. Roughly 38,000 deaths involved Covid in 2022 compared with more than 95,000 in 2020. We are still seeing more deaths overall than would be expected based on recent history. The difference in 2022 - compared with 2020 and 2021 - is that Covid deaths were one of several factors, rather than the main explanation for this excess.

A number of doctors are blaming the wider crisis in the NHS.  At the start of 2022, death rates were looking like they'd returned to pre-pandemic levels. It wasn't until June that excess deaths really started to rise - just as the number of people waiting for hours on trolleys in English hospitals hit levels normally seen in winter.  On 1 January 2023, the president of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine suggested the crisis in urgent care could be causing "300-500 deaths a week". It's not a figure recognised by NHS England, but it's roughly what you get if you multiply the number of people waiting long periods in A&E with the extra risk of dying estimated to come with those long waits (of between five and 12 hours).  It's possible to debate the precise numbers, but it's not controversial to say that your chances are worse if you wait longer for treatment, be that waiting for an ambulance to get to you, being stuck in an ambulance outside a hospital or in A&E.

And we're seeing record waits in each of those areas. In November, for example, it took 48 minutes on average for an ambulance in England to respond to a suspected heart attack or stroke, compared to a target of 18 minutesSome of the excess may be people whose deaths were hastened by the after-effects of a Covid infection.  A number of studies have found people are more likely to have heart problems and strokes in the weeks and months after catching Covid, and some of these may not end up being linked to the virus when the death is registered. As well as the impact on the heart of the virus itself, some of this may be contributed to by the fact many people didn't come in for screenings and non-urgent treatment during the peak of the pandemic, storing up trouble for the future. We can see that the number of people starting treatment for blood pressure or with statins - which can help prevent future heart attacks - plunged during the pandemic and, a year later still hadn't recovered.  The largest number of excess deaths are being seen in men aged 50-64, and are most commonly being caused by heart problems.

The rise in cardiac problems has been pointed to by some online as evidence that Covid vaccines are driving the rise in deaths, but this conclusion is not supported by the data.  One type of Covid vaccine has been linked to a small rise in cases of heart inflammation and scarring (pericarditis and myocarditis). But this particular vaccine side-effect was mainly seen in boys and young men, while the excess deaths are highest in older men - aged 50 or more.  And these cases are too rare - and mostly not fatal - to account for the excess in deaths.

Finally, figures up to June 2022 looking at deaths from all causes show unvaccinated people were more likely to die than vaccinated people.  While this data on its own can't tell us it's the vaccine protecting people from dying - there are too many complicating factors - if vaccines were driving excess deaths we would expect this to be the other way around.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Jan 23 10:50
So in summary, the vaccine has saved lives, but the state of the NHS has cost lives. But people rail against a penny or 2 on income tax/NI to fund improvements. That's a fiver a week on average take home pay, but no, it can't be afforded in a world of mobiles, sky tv, netflix, broadband, starbucks etc, and the pensioners must keep their triple lock.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Jan 23 11:11
swiftynifty 10 Jan 23 10:50 
So in summary, the vaccine has saved lives


Do you have the link for the data claiming this, please?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Jan 23 11:24
Finally, figures up to June 2022 looking at deaths from all causes show unvaccinated people were more likely to die than vaccinated people.

What's the definition of "unvaccinated" is this context, please?

Anyone who hasn't had all (insert whatever number they're up to now) jabs?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Jan 23 11:32
GEORGE.B, maybe stick to trying to get your 100 points, I think you've flogged this particular dead horse to death.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Jan 23 11:37
I politely asked you for the link to a claim that *YOU* had posted, so why the antagonism?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Jan 23 11:43
But here's the thing, they can manipulate the data any way they want, and if the source is the government, what are they going to say?

Oh yeah, you know that stuff we coerced millions into having injected into them? Nah, it's no good, man.

Of course not.

So what can we do?

We can look around us and ask...

Has the health of my family members and friends deteriorated since they rolled this stuff out?

Do they seem to have more health problems than previously?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Jan 23 11:48
GEORGE.B. Hopefully it'll all come out in the wash some way down the line. My point was about NHS funding, clearly it is underfunded, there is huge bureacracy spending that needs addressing, but people aren't prepared to pay more.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 10 Jan 23 12:25
I sure people would pay more if ALL paid more, quiet simple really but politician's choose to ignore it and people have had enough.
By:
DancingBraveTheBest
When: 10 Jan 23 12:50
A quote from my poor mum only last week to me   ( had at least 3 jabs)  " Oh why am I never well lately, I seem to be ill all the time"  Sad
By:
Cider
When: 10 Jan 23 13:11
just as the number of people waiting for hours on trolleys in English hospitals hit levels normally seen in winter.

lol, more liberalist bullsh1ne. not even worth scan reading the rest of it
By:
know all
When: 10 Jan 23 13:14
the big question i ask is why is it not on the news about the surprising high deaths ? why is it kept quiet ?

i was outraged last night on BBC 1 main news 9pm when harry had been the main news all day they suppressed harry/royal family news, as there was not one mention of him or royal family and his claims thats unbelievable but bbc are well bent imo, corrupt even you cant believe a word
By:
Cider
When: 10 Jan 23 13:14
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By:
Cider
When: 10 Jan 23 13:16
I wonder what might have caused the huge increase in excess deaths, it's baffling the experts. Not like anyone predicted it would be the inevitable outcome of effectively shutting down the NHS.
By:
know all
When: 10 Jan 23 13:17
Hospitals full on the news a/e full, my friend went to main city hostpital with ear infection was seen within 30 min and on his way within 45mins whats going on lol
By:
Cider
When: 10 Jan 23 13:18
It's called propaganda. One of the things that the NHS, and their friends in the media are actually good at.
By:
know all
When: 10 Jan 23 13:23
they are saying that the waiting lists are the cause of deaths lol nothing to do with the jab lol another fk lie, the astra zenaca jab was never tested on humans before it was released lol thats official fact news, now we know why
By:
duffy
When: 10 Jan 23 13:27
You have to admire the ingenuity in being able to insert code into the vaccine that would be able to send messages to the brain instructing the carrier to strike for more pay and in so doing killing off other victims....he's a swine that Gates fellaLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 10 Jan 23 13:28
In my view it's predominately they way that the NHS shut down to run away from covid. These deaths are effectively in the system so this is the shape of things for the next few years.
By:
JML
When: 10 Jan 23 13:35
know all--you keep claiming it's been kept quiet.

There have been numerous articles in the Telegraph.

There was a question asked in the houses of parliment and it
at a select committee.

How difficult can it be to find these things yourself?
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 10 Jan 23 13:44
JML- Where's the daily excess death counts on the BBC??
By:
JML
When: 10 Jan 23 13:45
Don't remember claiming there was one.
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